Sure there's another way. It's called innocent until proven guilty. Right now, the US is treating everyone like as a suspect, which is a shitty way to live, if you ask me. I'd prefer to take my chances of the bus or plane getting blown up, then live in a world like that.

No, that's not really how it works. What happens is, some asshole stabs someone on a Greyhound bus, then the family members scream & holler to the media. In response, politicians jump on board to pass new legislation to make you "more secure", and score some brownie points for the next election.

Continue that cycle for a few decades, and you end up with what we have now. In the US, cops will show up at your door because you bought too much cough syrup, and they'll suspect you of having a drug lab.

Up to you. Most of us know the threat isn't anywhere near as large or real as the government makes it out to be.

you live in Canada. wft does it matter to you????? get a fucking life, not only are you worried about what the govt is doing that doesn't affect you, its not even your own govt. Worry about "oh Canada!"

what chances, no one gives a shit about Canada enough to want to blow up anything there.

Your ignorance knows no bounds does it? ..It has EVERYTHING to do with me!

You've got your head so far up your ass, you can't see how this shit is affecting the rest of the World.

Canadian airports to install full-body scanners

TORONTO ? Full-body scanners will be introduced in Canada in the wake of the failed Christmas Day bombing attempt of a U.S. airliner, Canada's transport minister said Tuesday.

Transport Minister John Baird said Tuesday 44 machines will be purchased. Twelve will be put in place later this month, and the rest will be operational in the spring.

The suspect in the failed Northwest Airlines bombing had changed planes in The Netherlands and gone through security, but not through a full-body scanner.

"Given the recent terrorist incident on Dec. 25, our government is accelerating its actions to protect air travelers," Baird said.

Pretty soon you'll need to be searched to go to the mall. We had a guy go nuts in our local mall, he set fire to it, and burned half of it down - right before Christmas.

Of course not, we had common enemies at the time. Keep in mind it's not like the USA had to twist the Taliban's arms to fight the Russians. Far from it. Remember too, this was during the Cold War and war by proxy was standard operating procedure at the time. The Taliban doesn't hate us for that.

As for the Iran Iraq war, Saddam started that one on his own and for his own reasons. The USA only came to his aid when an Iranian victory seemed likely and no one welcomed that decision more than the rest of the Arab world.


Let us not forget that Israel was created in the wake of the Holocaust. The Jews by 1945 had, shall we say, gotten the hint that they weren't exactly welcome in Europe. They were by then insisting on their own state and, except for the Arabs, the whole world - including even Stalinist Russia - supported them in this.

And, yes, the Israelis have been ruthless in protecting their statehood ever since, but given their history this should come as no great surprise.

Moreover up until 9-11 the USA frequently acted as a moderating influence on Israel. For instance, the USA on two occasions put pressure on Israel not to kill Arafat when they had him cornered first in Beirut and later in Gaza.


More like 500 years ago if I remember my history correctly. By the time British and French colonizers arrived, those states had long since passed their peak years and, in many cases, had already been colonized by the Ottoman Turks.

Contrary to popular thinking, not everything that is wrong in this world can be blamed on the west.

Ohhh... doesn't all that security & protection just make you feel all warm & fuzzy inside?

And since you're such a genius, how would you prevent it from happening again? Increased security maybe?

50 TSA Gropings..

How about pass laws, which help create a society of people that don't have so much fear & hatred towards their government?

There's always going to be lunatics out there, and it's just one of life's facts that you need to accept. No amount of security can stop an intelligent lunatic who went off the deep-end. But the government has managed to convince people there's a terrorist hiding behind every bush, and boarding every plane, which is completely retarded.

I hear you... my girlfriend at the time lived right there at the end of Chambers st/battery park, the view of the towers were right in her window. It is still weird when looking at lower Manhattan without the towers.

everyone in america needs to tale like 3 hits of lsd and chill out.

In Spain after the metro bombing they installed luggage scanners, but only on the super expensive high speed trains not on the rest. A case of protecting the train fuck the people.

told you. the day you finally wake up, will be too late. the people running the show have nothing to fear. all goes as planned. the sheep stand in line to be embraced by the system. all cool.

at the end when someone finally finds out that Soylent Green is people it will all be too late.

I wonder how many peole won't go by bus but by car when they introduce this in Dutch trains and busses. I certainly would never go by train or bus.

But we now they have a hidden agenda. Do we get bodyscanners in cars also? A terrorist can use a car for transport. And even a bike with big bags on the back.

i saw this bike in a Vietnamese museum

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hantek/483370001/

Yep. It's only a matter of time before that happens to 'justify' the checkpoints.

That's most likely what they're preparing for.

And as Dcat says, this shit is affecting the rest of the World, not just the US.

Take a look at what is happening in the UK right now. Once you enter the airport terminal there you feel like you're in a police state.

They intend to shut down our means of communication for when the shit hits the fan.

Welcome in the USA

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what he said

They have special xray vans that scan parked cars.

"It’s not difficult to envision the day where anyone wishing to take mass transportation in this country will have to first submit to a government checkpoint, show ID, and answer questions about any excess cash, prescription medication, or any other items in his possession the government deems suspicious. If and when that happens, freedom of movement will essentially be dead. But it won’t happen overnight. It’ll happen incrementally. And each increment will, when taken in isolation, appear to some to be perfectly reasonable."

Back in 2000 I spent a month in Venezuela. This was my first trip to South America so I didn't really know what to expect. At that time their capitol, Caracas, was the murder capitol of the world. I didn't know that going in.

One thing that I found disturbing was the amount of well armed police and military police walking around and at pretty much all major areas of gathering. Bus stations, malls, train stations, bus stations, airports, and even just walking the streets in units in full war gear and attack dogs. I got the sense that "something bad" could happen at any time. It was more or less a military state in the capitol city.

At that time I was thankful I didn't live in a country that had to protect itself in that manner and have the military and police literally everywhere. I kept wondering what could possibly have happened to them to cause this display of power.

The last time I flew into the USA I was SHOCKED when I saw small military units walking through the airport with machine guns and attack dogs. I had an instant flashback to my trip to Venezuela and said to myself then, that this was just the start of something bad.

When I was in Caracas at that time, I had no idea that within the decade, the same country I was once thankful to live in, would more or less look the same way. While the USA isn't as bad yet, give it a 2 or 3 years and it will look exactly the same.

The odd part is, I've since made many trips back to South America, especially Venezuela, and I do not see such a military and police presence as I did then.

If you drive by land to city to city in Colombia, you will often come across military check points. They are geared up for battle, machine guns and all, and will check your car and your documents. Some stretches of the country are more dangerous than others so you may run into these guys every 10 miles, or less.

It is an uneasy feeling to constantly come across such check points, but Americans will soon have them as well. It is inevitable.

Think of what all has happened in the last decade. From 2000 to 2010. Now imagine what the next decade will bring. By 2020 we will no doubt all by living in as close to a police state as one can get. At the rate things are going, I would not be surprised to see a full police state within 10 - 15 years. Maybe less. And heaven help us all should another attack or two happen on American soil.

Dark days ahead I'm afraid.

Americans how will you feel when they bring the troops home and the ones you "support" are hired to keep you in place?

The more you put blame on a government the more control they are going to seize.

this is exactly what has happened.

Fear itself. Already lost.

Like I didn't already have a huge list of reasons not to want to take a bus.

hooray fascism is a comin!

america = gaza.

http://www.map-uk.org/files/416_pale...checkpoint.jpg

http://www.pcdc.edu.ps/image_018.jpg

how that happen?

Can they see in houses yet?

Sounds like the Stasi and KGB all over again. :Oh crap

Yes. Those ingenious folks at the DHS have thought of everything.

Soon you will be naked body-scanned in your car! I hope you are feeling "safer" now. ;-)

" The bad guys are on Notice that we will be back! " He seemed very proud of that statement. Sadly he just told them to find another route and not bother with bus's Where there is a will there is a way.

If these videos from the DHS don't show you where this is all headed, I don't know what will.

Under the guise of protecting us from the "terrorist" the DHS is planning a World-wide Police State Control Grid.



?Future Attribute Screening Technology? (FAST) checkpoints will conduct ?physiological? and ?behavioral? tests in order to weed out suspected terrorists and criminals.

We are all criminals / terrorists until proven innocent.

It's the American Way.

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The whole irony is that it's happening not in Russia, not in some Eastern Europe country, but in the Worlds capital of democracy, in the USA. And you Americans afraid of European immigrants still requiring visas for us. You know what? Most people I know don't want to go and live in America. Some of them have been in the USA for a while but they don't want to go back there.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Why are you blaming the US... Canada is so lost they can't think for themselves, they have to copy everything we do??? Wait, maybe that is true. :1orglaugh

So your govt installs body scanners and you bitch about the USA. Go bitch about Canada. I am convinces some of you dumb fucks make $0, not little money but ZERO money. You spend so much time blaming people, worrying about politics and shit, there is no way you make a fucking dime.

And btw did I mention that you should........


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you are sooo retarded. I hope i was able to get on your level and reach you so you can understand that you should stop blaming us and blame canada!! lol :1orglaugh

And if it wasn't for the USA, your Holland would look like this today:


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PS, dont forget the British, Canadian, Russian.

And if we didn't discover New York it would like this today.

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If things happen for safety i don't mind. But this is all about control.
Do you really think the world would be saver this way? And do you still feel free?