dragongold

I am looking for the best adult online and offline SEO services to refer my customers to. Can I please get some recommendations here?

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Can't help you out. Doing this stuff myself. But maybe thinking of outsourcing this.

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At least we know not to use XRatedSEO.com

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I would recommend that you don't use any SEO services from this board. I have tried at least 5 different SEO Experts from this board. Most of them can be described as an outright scam, while some of them may have had good intentions, at least.

SEO-Optimization seems to be the only business in the world where you can get paid for having good intentions. Even "real" Scammers at least have to put some effort into their scam.

None of the SEO Experts I've consulted have even gotten basic results (by that I mean 500-1000 unique visitors per day).

This is really sad, because I found somebody who now is marketing two websites with my content. All he does is upload to Xhamster and 2 or 3 other Tube sites, which leads to about 1000-2000 unique visitors per day per website (traffic which is converting, by the way).


So a guy that does nothing but some uploads (not a lot, just a few) to tube sites, gets better results than SEO Experts, who cost me hundreds, if not thousands of dollars...

Stay away as far as possible, is my personal recommendation.


What I also found striking is that not one single SEO Expert is interested in a % deal. Say 50% of the revenue generated by the SEO Expert belongs to the SEO Expert.

Nobody seems even remotely interested in such an arrangement. In any other business, if you market a product you get a %. Life insurances, cars, vacuum cleaners, you name it.

Only in the world of SEO, a %-based payment is completely out of the question, only a direct payment is possible. I wonder why that is?

No SEO Expert I met so far was willing to take responsibility for their results (I'm not even talking about conversions, only traffic). Lest anyone think that communism is dead!

It might be dead in countries like China, but in the world of SEO the idea that you get paid without achieving a result seems to be completely normal.

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Good reply freewayrick, seems some do have good intentions but little results.. Be nice to be proven wrong though!

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$100's of dollars will get you no results. You need a huge budget if you're targeting any competitive search terms.

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Better to go with your own instinct.

To go for Adult Seo, just ask these simple questions


What is your strategy for Adult Seo regarding your site?

Have you worked on Adult site before?

How long it will take your site to rank in top 10 in Google?

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FreewayRick

Well I did spend several thousand $. And I'm not sure if the search terms some guys worked on qualify as competitive. But on the other hand, is there any search term which isn't competitive?



And why do guys like this:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1087999

Charge only 275$ per month? And they do a lot more than just keywords.

Just another scam I suppose?


Well according to the above posts a large budget is needed. Great to see everybody contradict each other

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FreewayRick

Thanks for the profound analysis and commentary.


Now I really know a lot more about SEO.

I think this is also going to help a lot of other people searching for SEO.

It also does not come off as completely retarded, spammy and obsolete.




Your "comments" really give the impression that I'm dealing with the next ManWin.

Mark_E4A

if you would like to chat about this i would be glad to

and yes i can give you some refs, i dont just bullshit people

i have done work for a few BIG adult companies and got them results

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if you want to talk about SEO or anyone alse please add 666 - 874 , i didnt want this

to look "completely retarded, spammy and obsolete."

I found a thread in the Business Services section and i think for the moment that

someone need that services .

Please dont get that impression , there is no ManWin here.

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FreewayRick

You don't bullshit people?

It's been 9 days since I contacted you, and you didn't even give me a quote, even though I asked you as clearly as possible.


What do you think about our conversation on skype?

"
[05:17:04] freewayrick2: ok. So you want to take a look at my content?
[05:18:22] GTASEO.ca: sure
[05:19:31] freewayrick2: ok here is the FTP Data:
[05:19:41] freewayrick2: ftp.hidrive.strato.com
[05:19:53] freewayrick2: Username: ********
[05:20:02] GTASEO.ca: i dont want to ahve todownload it all

"

So to get this straight, I was offering you to take a look at my content.

And your response is "i dont want to have to download it all"???

Is this an exercise in trying be as retarded as possible?


Or is the real reason that you don't have 500 MB left on your harddrive?

If so, why can't you afford a decent size harddrive, if you've worked for big adult companies?



So, I've asked you several times, but you still don't seem to be interested in even looking at my content.

Are you that busy?

If you're that busy, then why bother to respond in this forum?


Shouldn't it be the first step in building an adult movie site, to analyze the content?



If you don't want to work with me, just say I'm not interested/too busy, whatever.

I don't understand why people have to act like complete retards.

It is worse than in a kindergarden.

FreewayRick

I've talked for hours with you, and I did not get the impression that you are able to even carry on a normal conversation, let alone do SEO. I will just leave it at that, unless you want me to go into further detail.



And by the way, what exactly do you want to talk about?

I've been trying to see past results, samples of your work, for hours. You never showed me any past results. Why?


Why is it completely impossible for you, to post results about your past SEO in this thread?

Just a simple graph, showing how you started with 0 visitors and then 6 months later got 10.000 per day, whatever the number is?



Why can't you, just as an exercise, open a domain, run a blog, whatever you have to do, and 6 months later post the results in here?

That would be the first thing I would do as an SEO Expert. That would prove that you can generate traffic. Not talking about it, or offering "Christmas" specials.

I can show you screenshots proving that my content earned money. Why can't you do something similar?


Oh let me guess, you're way too busy for that?




Everybody can make their own decisions and hire the people they want to hire.


My personal opinion about the "SEO-Experts" who posted in this thread:

I would not even hire these guys as a worker at mc donalds. It would be too much responsibility for them to fry a burger, or warm it up in a microwave.

That's just my personal impression though.




Well, Ironically the CEO and founder of ManWin is regularly posting in this forum. And he started posting long before he founded ManWin.

I really don't believe getting a basic amount of traffic is that difficult, past results have proven it. But if people want to make excuses, they will make excuses.

As a response to your christmas special: May be we should all just go to church a little bit more often, and start to pray to the SEO-God...oh sorry I meant Jesus Christ...damn , how did I mess that up...

Mark_E4A

downloading and watching movies has nothing to do with seo

looking at your actual website would be much better

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pornguy

Sounds like you might need to get back to school and learn a bit yourself.

Getting into your server via FTP and seeing the content has NOTHING to do with SEO. Does not now, never has and never will. Showing him your site is important though.

Search engine bots can not access protected areas of servers at all. they can only get into public html/php files etc.

So getting upset about your own lack of knowledge is just comical.

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FreewayRick

Fair Enough, but you didn't tell me that until now.

I don't have an actual website, since I generate most of the revenue on VOD-Sites (such as AEBN).

The only membership sites I have are not the target for SEO.


So, I would need to have that membership site programmed in the first place.

Whether that is worth it, will surely depend on what kind of results you are expecting, your budget and so on.


Several SEO-Guys I talked to did see viewing the actual content as part of the "interview"-process.

If they were all wasting my and their time, apologies.

But I can't tell the difference between a good and bad SEO-Expert.

BigRod

Let me give you some quick tips in regards to SEO companies.

First if a company guarantees you results they are a SCAM. I repeat they are a SCAM.

Second purchase a process not a result. Have the company representative break down the process they plan to use to go about getting you the results your looking for.

I run a mainstream marketing company with a number of Fortune 500 companies as clients and we have never guaranteed any of them a result. If any of my salespeople ever guaranteed a result they would be fired.

We have a trusted and true process of achieving amazing results for our clients but we make it very clear to all of them they are buying our process. We have lost many bids to companies that guarantee results, but the clients usually make their way back to us three months and 10k behind schedule.

Good luck with your search!

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Mark_E4A

this is bang on correct

only thing i wont do is tell someone everything i am going to do before we sign the deal

there are far too many snakes in adult that just try to get info out of you and then tell you they dont want to do it ( then try themselves ) although mainstream is different as i do that aswell.

The only thing i guaranty is that i will do my best to get your keywords on the top, not once have i told a client i promice i will put you there, there is no guaranty of that... ( havent failed yet but... i wont promice that i will hit it )

IMO the best seo company is one that will do their best to get you to the goal you want to be at,

i DO AGREE that if anyone says i guaranty the rank, RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN


in the end it is up to the seo company and the client to come to an agreement, not a guaranty, a guaranty could mean the seo company practices in black hat, hits the rank, gets paid and not give a fuck about the clients future

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