Originally posted by theking
Only an ignorant Bush ass kisser could fail to see the humor in your comment. Russia "third world"?
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Only an ignorant Bush ass kisser could fail to see the humor in your comment. Russia "third world"?
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Russia isn't near the US in military, economy, or anything for that matter. (besides nukes)Only an ignorant Bush ass kisser could fail to see the humor in your comment. Russia "third world"?
It has high poverty levels, a low work force and many other discerning things about it.
Don't know about third world, but it isn't the United States, or in its league for that matter.Comment
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God damn.. Who didn't see this coming? Yes, Joe smoked dope with losers in every one of these countries making him and expert in world history and politics.Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Woohoo you win you?re the best.Comment
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I do not like the fact that Mr. Bush holds the office of the Presidency...so much for being a...Bush ass kisser".Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Only an ignorant Bush ass kisser could fail to see the humor in your comment. Russia "third world"?
I should have been more specific in my post as I was referring to the peak of the USSR...of which Russia was a part. In addition I should have said "near" third world with a military.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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It was never in doubt.Originally posted by dirtyoneComment
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Yep...he backed packed while high on drugs...and stayed at hostels with the other riff fraff. I am somewhat surprised that he has any memory of any countries.Originally posted by dirtyoneWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Typical.Originally posted by Joe CitizenComment
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Originally posted by websiex
DUH?? :-) It only takes one nuke. Russia has.. roughly 2000-3000 of the things!!
Who cares what their economy is like or "other discerning features"? Nuked is nuked!
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The funniest thing is that you can bet most of the parts the Soviets put in Iran will be American Made!
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Not currently. But it IS getting better. Economic recovery proceeds apace, despite the corruption and 2-generations-old manufacturing base.Originally posted by websiex
Goldman-Sachs just released a report on where they consider which countries will be in the ascendancy (with the implication, of course, that they want you to invest in those markets as a hedge against the coming USD crisis) and named China, India, Russia and Brazil as prime candidates, suggesting a date of around 2020 when china will acheive per-capita parity with the US, slightly later for india and brazil, and slightly later again for russia. If I can dig up the link I'll post it later... been a while since I read it.
It's foolish to think that if a country is down, that it's down for good. Russia is going through a hard time right now, but there's not a single russian I've met who couldn't shoulder the burden. Hell, a lot that I've known achieve Neitzschean levels of "life is pain" existentialism when cuddled up to a bottle of Stolichnaya.
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Almost everyone here are Anti-America. Jeeze. If you are going to try to say something people, atleast look clever saying it. Some of the comments i have seen here are so off. It sounds like children in a playround arguing, and none has nothing to say but Mama jokes, which we know is not true. "Your moma is fat" when we all know 9/10 the person's mom is not fat. FACT is teh key to argueing or debating.Originally posted by websiex
On the other hand, i AGREE with what he wrote here. If you know your history, then there is NO way you cannot agree with this. I myself is a foreigner, and i am very proud of my hone country, Nigeria, but i live here and i give this country props where it is do. Hatred for the US has really taken over some of you. It is amazing.Last edited by pxxx; 02-27-2005, 06:59 PM.Comment
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The truth is... it took YEARS to get the US involved in this World War. Other countries were fighting on several fronts already. This was not some "US war" but a World War.Originally Posted by websiex
The United States saved Europe from total invasion, then protected Europe for 50 more years, where do you get that stupid logic from anyway? You seem like a really dumb person obessed with anti-Americanism.
Hitler had no plans to stop and was heading your way - maybe that might have got some motivation to move and get involved.
Hell.. anyone would laugh at the stupid suggestion the US "protected Europe for 50 more years". There was far more involved than just protecting Europe.
If there is any obesssion... it's not over the US, but with the pathetic arrogant trolls who spout shit. Thank God they don't represent the US people.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Actually in the US 50% are fat, so it would be more like a 50/50 bet.Originally posted by pxxx
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You do realize that Russia was a superpower and could have easily run over Europe if the United States didn't have millions of troops there, right?Hell.. anyone would laugh at the stupid suggestion the US "protected Europe for 50 more years". There was far more involved than just protecting Europe.
Here is the whole problem behind this thread. I don't think anyone knows what a superpower is. Once you look up what a superpower is, and know the real meaning behind it, then talk on here with me. Until then, you have no room to talk.
You guys see the United States as a weak nation... it isn't. The United States is the strongest nation, and the only super state in the world. We have reached this by an excellent form of government, good decision making, and freedom.Comment
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No.. I don't think the US is a "weak" nation, but would not go into much more of strengths and weaknesses.... that can turn up fatal :-)Originally posted by websiex
It only takes one man to dispell any illusions of "strength" and no person or country can escape that.
The US has loads of good shit.. but a great tendency to make an ass of itself and repeatedly - hence, it is more inclined to be a "talking point". This is the kind of conduct that other nations went thru generations ago... they assumed they were always right and infallible. They were not.
Freedom has little to do with any credibility - most western countries have more freedoms than the US offers. That again, is another learned fallacy, promoted as being some virtue within the US.
No nation on this earth can claim to have "an excellent form of government" or "good decision making". Another arrogant assumption. Look at the track record - not just of the US, but any other industrialized country - you don't have to look far :-) Almost all of them have miserable track records thru generations - the US being no exception.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Originally posted by Relish XXX
We have free schooling ignorant prick, we also have guarunteed medical for every citizen. However I'd much rather have health insurance and pay $80 a month and have even better care paying our doctors better than you do paying 50 % in taxes and getting taxed on everything else you have or purchase with the exception of your oxygen...
Tax tax tax... and who has a higher Per capita?Comment
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Hmm...very astute observation...being that Germany officially declared war on the United States...shortly after the Japanese attack on Perl Harbor. So yes that did provide a certain "motivation to move and get involved.Originally posted by Webby
Hmm...maybe you are right about "far more being involved"...but that does not alter the fact...that Europe was not only rebuilt via American dollars...but in fact it was American dollars/Nuclear/Military umbrella that protected Europe for almost a half century from becoming a part of the Iron wall of the USSR...and anyone with knowledge would laugh at someone that denied this.Hell.. anyone would laugh at the stupid suggestion the US "protected Europe for 50 more years". There was far more involved than just protecting Europe.
You spew your misinformation and hatred for anything American almost daily...and yet profess not to care about what the US does or does not do...so yes you are obessed...but your obession...and hatred is not of any import...just as you personally of are not of any importIf there is any obesssion... it's not over the US, but with the pathetic arrogant trolls who spout shit. Thank God they don't represent the US people.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Was that your answer?Originally posted by theking
Quit clogging the board up with some testorone complex and find another equal-minded idiot to have a contest with :-)
You ever actually tried to have a post containing any level of rationality or is it of a mindset to nuke the fuck outta anyone/country that comes your way??? Some call that a commuication deficiency
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Our form of Goverment and the decisions made by our elected members of Goverment during the 200 plus year existence of the United States of America...has made the US the only economic/military superpower on the face of the earth. It may not meet your criteria for being "an excellent form of government"...but I will accept it as being "an excellent form of government" until something better comes along...thank you very much.Originally posted by WebbyLast edited by theking; 02-27-2005, 07:35 PM.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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The King's comments aside,
in all fairness, The US has contributed to some major causes on the world stage. The problem is, that certain administrations undermine the progress of previous ones through their foreign policy. Look at Venezuela right now. There has been a yelling match between Hugo Chavez and the Bush Administration over their attempt on his life back in 2002 and the funding of the coup that nearly toppled Chavez, a man actually elected by the people for the people. Threats and allegation about Chavez are unfounded due to the fact that he has the ability to counter certain opec initiatives. on the flip side of that coin, look at the amazing advancements by NASA and the recent tsunami relief contributions. In terms of russia, Putin should be speaking to Rumsfeld rather than a country club jackass. Rummy's the man Putin needs to deal with. Bush is a clown in the land of wolves.
US$$ did not rebuild Europe BTW - do some research.Comment
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Yea yea.. as tho no other nation did the same thing long before the US was ever heard of.Originally posted by theking
Who's ass does the sun shine out of King? Check your pathetic sig and learn the meaning of the word "brainwashed". You raise the flag today?
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it never happensOriginally posted by NysusComment
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Look in the mirror and repeat your words. More webble from the Webby of the fantasy land of Webby world.Originally posted by WebbyWas that your answer?
Quit clogging the board up with some testorone complex and find another equal-minded idiot to have a contest with :-)
You ever actually tried to have a post containing any level of rationality or is it of a mindset to nuke the fuck outta anyone/country that comes your way??? Some call that a commuication deficiencyWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Agree!!Originally posted by Icon
Tho.. other shit aside.. Chavez is a damned nut!!! :-) But again.. half the shit would not have happened if the US stayed the fuck out of it.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Another sample of the communication diseaseOriginally posted by theking
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As to your first statement...it is not of any import as...the US is currently the only Super Power on the face of the earth.Originally posted by WebbyYea yea.. as tho no other nation did the same thing long before the US was ever heard of.
Who's ass does the sun shine out of King? Check your pathetic sig and learn the meaning of the word "brainwashed". You raise the flag today?
I am a patriot...not brainwashed...but your hatred of anything American...kind of puts you in that category. Are you still volunteering to assasinate the President as you once volunteered to do?
It was raining off and on today and it is against the law to fly the flag in bad weather...so the answer is no.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Putin looks like he want to punch the shit out of bush....
the article is here...
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0225-01.htm
Imagine, a soldier and politician having to take shit from a spoiled ex-party animal/country club boy/baseball team owner.Last edited by Icon; 02-27-2005, 07:48 PM.Comment
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Ah.. thanks King. Now I know you have labelled yourself as a "patriot" and claim not to be brainwashed.Originally posted by theking
Are you still suggesting the US should nuke other nations?
Mmmm.. pity it's raining today. I don't like to hear you are deprived of anything.
Ah.. It comes as no surprise that some ass introduced a law about flying the flag in bad weather That says a lot!!
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Do you think then that Europe would be willing to repay the monies spent via the Marshal Plan?Originally posted by IconWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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theKing:
And this is why you are taught "patriotism".Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.
And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.
How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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My reply to Webby's comments in general:
You seem kind of logical, but you lack the ability to convert logic to reality. You are obessed with hating the United States, just like Joe Citizen, except that you try to remain logical, but veer off from reality.
The reality is.. the United States is the most powerful country in the world. Whether you like it or not. It has an obligation to be active in world politics, because there are still many times of idelogies. I am on the side of the "west". If you want to be on the side of the "east", be my guest.
The United States is the frontman for Western philosophy. We have to protect our western nations from Eastern influence. I know this is really hard for you to understand, because you think everyone in the world is the same... but everyone is different.
It is sad that the United States has to keep an eye on countries like Iraq/Iran/North Korea, but that is what the US has to do. We really have no other choice, we can't let them get powerful, or there WILL BE ANOTHER WORLD WAR. The United States can't afford countries with totally different ideas turn into nuclear powers/superpowers.
We lived in a cold war with Russia (East) for a half century. Now, the United States is the world leader, and is because of good policies. The United States doesn't take anyones shit. We stand up and take action when we need to, that is why we hold the position as the world's only super state.
I have no idea why any of you hate the United States as much as you do, but it is truely sad. The United States represents what each and everyone of us is, Westerners. It is sad how some of you can stick up for countries like Iran while you live the 'free flowing' western lifestyle.
It is also sad in my eyes that people are living free in Israel, and only a border seperates people in Lebanon that live under opression and strict conservative laws. The world really needs to start looking at what life is all about, and what ideas you want to abide to. I for one am in with the West and the United States. If you want to be on the side of opression and darkness be my guest.
Be thankful you are living in a time of light, a time of freedom, a time of no shadows; for there once was a time when darkness ruled and people didn't live under the bright lights of freedom. Freedom is a god given gift to all humans, and borders shouldn't hold back freedoms ring.Comment
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Interesting King! You surprise me - I was referring to financial reperations by the league of Nations on Germany after the first and second war, but the Marshal Plan was not mentionned among European sorces I've looked at. I have to do some reading. checkin this link right now http://www.marshallfoundation.org/ma...formation.htmlOriginally posted by theking
Canadian and European sources seem to downplay this plan...
bear in mind all sources of this Marshall plan are American.........Comment
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I have never stated that the US nuke any nation...period...thank you very much. The US does not have any need to use nukes...but nukes are consider by the US Goverment/Military to be a viable military weapon and in fact the US is in progress of making newer...smaller...improved nukes.Originally posted by WebbyWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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At last check ~65% were 'overweight', and of those ~30% were 'obese' and ~5% were 'extremely obese'... however, the boundaries of those terms are dictated by the insurance industry based on demographics of claims vs. weight/volume, and ironically enough I wouldn't trust my life to them (anyone who's done any body building knows exactly how retarded these '50th percentile human' numbers can be).Originally posted by Odin88Actually in the US 50% are fat, so it would be more like a 50/50 bet.
The numbers are from 2002, and noting the trends in place it's reasonable to expect that the actual overweight population could be as high as 70% by these definitions. Who wouldn't take those odds at vegas?
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A nut he may be, but a populist nut who enjoys polling at 65% support for his policies. 2 out 3 ain't bad, and not just with venezuelans, either... many people in latin america are enamoured of Hugo. A burgeoning cult of personality like that could make a dream like a carribean trading bloc a reality, which must scare the bejeezus out of industrialists that covet south american oil, costa rican diamonds, etc.Originally posted by WebbyAgree!!
Tho.. other shit aside.. Chavez is a damned nut!!! :-) But again.. half the shit would not have happened if the US stayed the fuck out of it.~
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Hear ya!! :-)Originally posted by websiex
And plenty valid stuff there!
I am not claiming anything on strengths/weaknesses - the US has a load of scrap metal called nukes. Other countries have these as well. The number of nukes is ... kinda irrelevant. The US had the biggest economy ever - but that can't be claimed currently simply because the country is highly indebted to other nations and is running at an unsustainable level. Strengths/weaknesses don't matter a lot - it's how you use/play with them.
The US sure does have a roll to play in "world politics" - same as any other nation. Tho it is not about "us" and "them" and average Joe Public is no different whether he is in.. Delhi or Kentucky. The majority of .. at least the posts about the person in Delhi is that he is "inferior" and comes from some "shit country" - very arrogant! :-) I know a few "inferior" people who could buy and sell "superior" beings 20 fold over in a day without blinking :-) The guy in Delhi has little interest in attacking anyone, whether he is of Muslim faith or otherwise. Tho it does appear, least from threads like this, that some folks in the US are actually "frightened" of people who don't "conform" and see a need to have some contest over it and label others as "them" :-) If people in other countries read this GFY shit - a good number would be shocked.It has an obligation to be active in world politics, because there are still many times of idelogies. I am on the side of the "west". If you want to be on the side of the "east", be my guest.
The United States is the frontman for Western philosophy. We have to protect our western nations from Eastern influence. I know this is really hard for you to understand, because you think everyone in the world is the same... but everyone is different.
It is also not the biz of the US or any other nation to say how their culture/beliefs will be. Chances are, they were around long before many countries existed and will be after they have gone.
It is very hard to comprehend why any nation, especially one that does have plenty leeway on "power" already, to eg.. spend over .30 cents on every tax dollar in further arms development as some idea that this makes them "more powerful" - clearly it don't :-) There seems to be some need to be "something" :-)
I don't think any rational person actually "hates" much - how can someone "hate" a country?? It's a lump of land!! And also can't "hate" the general beliefs of those in the country - I'm probably of the same beliefs. The thing that probably causes more.... despising (not hate), is the utter arrogance exhibited by a few who always end up being US people. No other country have I ever known in webmaster world or before, exhibits this incredible arrogance. I work with a few US people and none of them even come close to this. We are probably seeing the GFY retard element in action - but it sure don't look good :-)XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Originally Posted by Webby
Are you still suggesting the US should nuke other nations?
Incorrect! Your "cure" to problems has already been published on threads - nuke em, because it's the the best interests of the US.Originally posted by theking
The rest is shit.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Yea!! :-) Odd when ya think he still has good rankings and bodies are disappearing.. almost weekly.Originally posted by rickholio
Agree.. there is LOADS of wealth there - amazing levels!!!
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I do not hate the US, just the current administration because:Originally posted by websiex
1)They are killing and torturing people for false reasons(LIES)
2)They have invoked fear and blind patriotism amongst their own people to slowly erode their own freedoms
3)They have alienated their traditional allies
4)Bush has the mental capacity of "theKing" (my apologies to "theKing")Comment
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Originally posted by WebbyAgree!!
Tho.. other shit aside.. Chavez is a damned nut!!! :-) But again.. half the shit would not have happened if the US stayed the fuck out of it.
A nut Howso?
Equador and Argentina both got fucked by Privitization Due to US involvement. I have family who fled Venezuela when Chavez was re-elected because they were wealthy land owners. They explained to me that large portions of their land were going to be seized by the government and given to the poor landless citizens. From their point of view it sucked, they worked hard to get what they had. On the other side, why shouldn't the local population be treated like first class citizens in their own country?
He gave jobs back to Venezuelans, he kicked out the wealthy foreigners.Comment
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Why do you think Bush runs the United States? You need to hear a lecture on American Government.I do not hate the US, just the current administration because:
1)They are killing and torturing people for false reasons(LIES)
2)They have invoked fear and blind patriotism amongst their own people to slowly erode their own freedoms
3)They have alienated their traditional allies
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Only a nut in respect of his ego... he's got a massive ego!!!Originally posted by Icon
On the others.. yes, agree! The crap that happened in Equador and places like Boliva puts a total mockery face on the US Admin when they talk hypocritical crap about "our values" - all they value is someone paying a price for shit they supposed to be paying for. The old "empire" countries did the same generations back - it's now a repetition of this with a "young nation".
BTW.. You know US companies actually expected people to pay for rainwater in some of these South American countries??? That was, before they were evicted.
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Originally posted by websiex
Why would anyone want to listen to some lecture on "American Government"?? Duh??
Many are experiencing the enormous benefits of "American Government" in their own countries and think the best place for this is back in the USA.
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Didn't Bush win a controvertional vote in 2000 because the conservative-slanted judges appointed him.Originally posted by websiex
And the 2004 because of Karl Rovers brilliant tactics (not to mention the war atmosphere).
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Yeah, they mentionned that in that flick "The Corporation" - it was actually hard to wrap my mind around that concept. The police in Equador became enforcers for the corporations. I don't remember if it was Evian who was responsible, but a 12 year old was murdered by the police and all hell broke loose.Originally posted by WebbyOnly a nut in respect of his ego... he's got a massive ego!!!
BTW.. You know US companies actually expected people to pay for rainwater in some of these South American countries??? That was, before they were evicted.
Privitization should be used sparringly, it is very dangerous, John Ralston Saul actually cited it as a prime cause for the downfall of Globalization and a rise in Nationalism (Australia, New Zealand) its just a theory of course....
Chavez's Ego, yeah I guess it's pretty big, he has done a couple of bizarre ass things like apparently raiding Jewish schools to send a message. But when the administration of one of the most powerful nations of the world is trying to take you out, thats got to mess with your head.Comment
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why? because you have no idea what american government is all about. you think bush runs everything...Why would anyone want to listen to some lecture on "American Government"?? Duh??
Many are experiencing the enormous benefits of "American Government" in their own countries and think the best place for this is back in the USA.
BTW... I assume you mean "US government".
and what are you talking about experiencing benefits? people want the united states to be where the united states is, except for a few thousand radicals in iraq, but that is understandable.Comment
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Originally posted by rambler
his daddy, the ex director of the CIA needed him there. It's clear as day. Rummsfeld is pulling strings with bush Sr.
Bush is like Reagan, he's a puppet. A real president would have learned to procounce the names of other nations. He isn't dumb, he just doesn't have to care.Comment
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Originally posted by Icon
Yes.. think that was the beginning of the end of the water scam when that child was killed. It was followed up with... think 12 more killings before it all cooled off. It's ironic people paid with their lives for use of water and also amazing greed on the other side.
Don't think it was Evian, but they may have been involved at some level. The main company was based in California.
On Chavez... he is a unpredictable character :-) Same as you, I know a few people who moved out quick when he "arrived" - they valued their lives more :-)
But.. underneath the crap.. there is sense. He is a target of the US (for obvious reasons), and has had a campaign of shit and attempted assassination from the US (notice how Bush was elated, then when he found out the deposing never happened - not a word?? ). There have also been loads of attempts to link him with harboring Al Queda and other utter bullshit. All that may make him a little bit temperamental
Hell.. he may end up another cult figure if he keeps this going! :-)XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Very much so. The US media is deamonizing him right now so unfortunate people can't get the full scope of his plan. On paper it seems amazing, in reality it could almost be considered fascist. He's walked the line fairly well so far. Its got to be a hard balance, one the Bush administration is willing to topple.Originally posted by WebbyYes.. think that was the beginning of the end of the water scam when that child was killed. It was followed up with... think 12 more killings before it all cooled off. It's ironic people paid with their lives for use of water and also amazing greed on the other side.
Don't think it was Evian, but they may have been involved at some level. The main company was based in California.
On Chavez... he is a unpredictable character :-) Same as you, I know a few people who moved out quick when he "arrived" - they valued their lives more :-)
But.. underneath the crap.. there is sense. He is a target of the US (for obvious reasons), and has had a campaign of shit and attempted assassination from the US (notice how Bush was elated, then when he found out the deposing never happened - not a word?? ). There have also been loads of attempts to link him with harboring Al Queda and other utter bullshit. All that may make him a little bit temperamental
Hell.. he may end up another cult figure if he keeps this going! :-)
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