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  • SomeCreep
    :glugglug
    • Mar 2003
    • 26118

    #101
    Originally posted by Lightspeed
    2) I own the trademark to the name Tawnee Stone, she can't use it when she leaves.
    Smart business move.

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    • Mack
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2003
      • 1017

      #102
      102 ungrateful models

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      • JFK
        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
        • Jan 2002
        • 67369

        #103
        Originally posted by Lightspeed
        Couple side notes

        1) I didn't renew her contract because she refuses to do anything but softcore, for any price. I offered her $25k for a one-hour POV that she refused.

        2) I own the trademark to the name Tawnee Stone, she can't use it when she leaves.

        3) She is now 4 years older, and not the 18 year old star that she was.

        4) She causes a lot of drama in my studio with our other models, constantly reminding them that she is the #1 girl.
        Sounds like you have treated her more than fair in the time she worked with you. Time has come to part company.

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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #104
          Originally posted by LadyMischief
          are = our, I assume? :P
          I am guessing she is not an English major

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          • Tom_PM
            Porn Meister
            • Feb 2005
            • 16443

            #105
            Hell, in past jobs I've worked 60 hours regularly for a salary of less than $500 gross per week. And that was management! On my feet all the time, busting my ass helping people as if they were the most important people in the world. Coming home and literally falling asleep right where I sat down when I walked in the door. Waking up and doing it all over again.

            Sometimes reality strikes and sometimes it doesnt. I wouldnt change anything I dont think.

            Good luck.
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            • V_RocKs
              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
              • Nov 2003
              • 32451

              #106
              Originally posted by JupZChris
              i doubt the girls will leave lightspeed if tawnee does

              as steve said she causes drama with the other girls

              im sure jordan would like to be #1 for awhile
              and that will happeni f tawnee leaves

              im sure jordan is getting close to beating tawnee in sales anyways
              I see your point.. Well, shit.. Then I'd let her go.. If she is a drama queen that others would like to see go...

              Perhaps most of this shit is about the fact that Jordan is #1? Or atleast on her way to being #1.

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              • WarChild
                Let slip the dogs of war.
                • Jan 2003
                • 17263

                #107
                So let me get this straight. She made over $130,000 last year doing softcore nude only. She's going to finish school with no student loans and she's bought/buying a house at 22. On top of that you offered her another $24,000 to not shoot with anyone else.

                She thinks that's the short end of the stick? Oh it's going to be a rude awakening for her.
                .

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                • Young
                  Bland for life
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 10468

                  #108
                  Remind her of what happened to Prince once he dropped the name
                  ★★★

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                  • Top Jimmy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 2513

                    #109
                    Originally posted by FTVGirls
                    Well about 4 weeks ago (Steve knows about this) Tawnee did contact me, to make a single girl website for her. As much as I would love to, I cannot 'burn any bridges' as they say, and told her I couldn't.

                    HMMM, so she's already contacted some people. Got responses similar to yours from all of them, she probably doesn't realize the site owners talk to eachother. This ultimatum seems forced, she most likely alreadys knows she's done if she leaves.

                    Don't reply. Let it die.

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                    • Top Jimmy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 2513

                      #110
                      Originally posted by Young
                      Remind her of what happened to Prince once he dropped the name

                      LOL Classic.

                      Don't reply. Let it die.

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                      • rowan
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #111
                        Oops, I just re-read her email and saw that the $2k was to remain exclusive. Since she obviously wants to continue working in the adult industry then going from $130k working to $24k not working [in adult] would be quite a big hit. Still, it's better than nothing, isn't it? I've never seen anything to suggest that Steve doesn't treat his models well.

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                        • Jace
                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 35562

                          #112
                          Originally posted by Sly
                          Is the severance deal because you don't want to work with her anymore or because she wants out? And if she wants out, why would she be going to other companies?

                          I really don't understand. I'm assuming the only reason you decided to post this email is because you figure that soon enough other companies will be posting emails from her.
                          i am lost too...i mean, if she is hired by another company then she will get the severence and new pay...so why is she bitching about free money?

                          i call fake drama, and not very well planned out either

                          and pretty unprofessional to post private business emails to a public board..

                          i won't stop sending traffic though, lightspeed is a killer program...LOL

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                          • SomeCreep
                            :glugglug
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 26118

                            #113
                            Originally posted by Young
                            Remind her of what happened to Prince once he dropped the name
                            Yeah, that was so lame. Instead of the media calling him "Prince", he became "The artist formerly known as Prince". Much better

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                            • Pipecrew
                              Master of Gfy.com
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 14888

                              #114
                              Ok, it's not industry suicide as Perfection Jeff, the most "successful single girl site owner" refers to it, very ironic i might ad. It is BUSINESS.

                              She will find a company, the company will shoot her softcore, throw up a webcam chat and do pretty damn good, offer her like 5k to 10k/month.

                              Steve, if you want my advice, just pay 3k to 4k/month, she will be thrilled with that, and you wont have to be pissed off for a whole year, that along is worth it.

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                              • Jace
                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 35562

                                #115
                                Originally posted by rowan
                                Oops, I just re-read her email and saw that the $2k was to remain exclusive. Since she obviously wants to continue working in the adult industry then going from $130k working to $24k not working [in adult] would be quite a big hit. Still, it's better than nothing, isn't it? I've never seen anything to suggest that Steve doesn't treat his models well.
                                oh, so like if she basically didn't work for anyone else, but stopped working for steve, she would get $2k a month....

                                $2k a month ain't shit though on the west coast, if she is there...you can barely live on $4k a month there

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                                • ytcracker
                                  stc is the greatest
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 12403

                                  #116
                                  crazy steve hope it all works out
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                                  • iwantchixx
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 12860

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                    Couple side notes

                                    1) I didn't renew her contract because she refuses to do anything but softcore, for any price. I offered her $25k for a one-hour POV that she refused.

                                    2) I own the trademark to the name Tawnee Stone, she can't use it when she leaves.

                                    3) She is now 4 years older, and not the 18 year old star that she was.

                                    4) She causes a lot of drama in my studio with our other models, constantly reminding them that she is the #1 girl.
                                    I kind of admire her for sticking to her no hardcore rule. She obviously has some respect for herself. But from the sounds of it it seems like her self respect has gone a bit overbaord with her dramatic ways. If she doesn't take the 2k a month, then fuck her. She's not going to get anywhere without the tawne stone name and is just another washed up model without it. No other company would have any use for her.

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                                    • SteveLightspeed
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 7940

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by WarChild
                                      So let me get this straight. She made over $130,000 last year doing softcore nude only. She's going to finish school with no student loans and she's bought/buying a house at 22. On top of that you offered her another $24,000 to not shoot with anyone else.

                                      She thinks that's the short end of the stick? Oh it's going to be a rude awakening for her.
                                      That about sums it up.

                                      Steve Lightspeed
                                      Abra-cadabra!

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                                      • sacX
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 2998

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                        You already know my take on it.

                                        If shes shopping a deal then fuck her. DOnt pay her a dime. If she wont accept the 2k a month for doing nothing after all you have paid her then again, fuck her.

                                        Any program that picked her up would be commiting industy suicide. Not only that, shes the most branded name girl on the internet. Shes branded as hell making her worthless as anything but Tawnee Stone.

                                        She might find a job doing DP with two big black dude, but other then that... she has ZERO value for anyone.

                                        Kick her bitchy ass out and let her see how good she had it. No need to be nice Steve, you know as well as I do she would fuck you over without thinking about it.
                                        She won't accept 2k because she thinks (rightly or wrongly) she can make more money doing other web work. Wtf is wrong with that?
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                                        • martzy
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 139

                                          #120
                                          I heard she's a freak off camera.....

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                                          • Jace
                                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                                            • Jan 2004
                                            • 35562

                                            #121
                                            never mind what I said earlier, sounds like she is being a primadonna....i hate bitches like that

                                            fuck her...

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                                            • Young
                                              Bland for life
                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 10468

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                              Yeah, that was so lame. Instead of the media calling him "Prince", he became "The artist formerly known as Prince". Much better
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                                              • NaughtyRob
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                                                • Nov 2004
                                                • 29602

                                                #123
                                                Wow,
                                                by the way I agree with her, she should get more than $2,000 per month.
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                                                • Paul Welles
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                  • 107

                                                  #124
                                                  This kind of reminds me of those idiots at CSI who said they slept in cause they thought they could take the franchise down and demanded a bigger raise then they got...your fired was the response. Well if that Jackass didn't go on Leno and apologize after he realized that the show made him.
                                                  Steve you have three choices and since this is business you can either
                                                  1. try to talk to her which I am sure will only hurt you.
                                                  2. Ignore the email and continue on as business as usual and chalk it up to youth and stupidity(I am sure you have been there too) and will soon realize how dumb she actually is.
                                                  3. Fire Her.
                                                  Either way you have to live with the decision.

                                                  Please keep us updated as to the situation.
                                                  Best Regards,
                                                  Paul Welles

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                                                  • NaughtyRob
                                                    Two fresh affiliate progs
                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                    • 29602

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                    Not at all. Tawnee was paid over $130k last year. We have stockpiled an enormous amount of content of her, and she refuses to do anything more than simple nudity. I offered her $24k over the next 12 month for DOING NOTHING. The $2000/month was a severance deal, I didn't want her to lose her new house.

                                                    Steve Lightspeed
                                                    D'oh! Guess I should have read the whole thread. Still, how about like $50,000 severance. She has made you millions right?
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                                                    • PerfectionGirls
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 4484

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by sacX
                                                      She won't accept 2k because she thinks (rightly or wrongly) she can make more money doing other web work. Wtf is wrong with that?

                                                      Nothing wrong with that at all. However, shes going to be VERY disapointed. She has no value at all other then her branded name as Tawnee Stone which Steve owns.

                                                      She thinks she has a card to play when in fact, that "card" cashed in about two years ago. I dont wish anything bad for the girl, I just think she is being a fool and Steve is being to nice. She will never respect what Steve has done or is willing to do now.
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                                                      • The Adult Broker
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                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                        • 5265

                                                        #127
                                                        [QUOTE=

                                                        she does NOT look the same anymore - she is AGING

                                                        [/QUOTE]


                                                        Yikes, Aging at 22 years old?

                                                        Then I guess I must be headed for the nursing home at my age.

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                                                        • warlock5
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 2808

                                                          #128
                                                          Has she contacted Facial Abuse yet?

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                                                          • Meloman
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 1540

                                                            #129
                                                            Ok, I think I understand this all.

                                                            1. She made $130K LAST year.
                                                            2. She didn't get her contract renewed THIS year cause she only does softcore.
                                                            3. The $2K a month is a severance package so that she doesn't work for someone else for a year.

                                                            So basically her only option is either be happy with $2K a month or leave Steve to hopefully make more.

                                                            Can't really blame her for wanting to make more than $2K a month after she had a taste of the $130K year.

                                                            I think you're doing the right thing steve to let her go. You've got plenty of content saved up so her leaving shouldn't phase you.

                                                            If she's trying to finish up school she should be happy that allthough she's not making $130K, she's still got a FREE $24K for a year and can focus just on school.

                                                            Just my 2 cents

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                                                            • SomeCreep
                                                              :glugglug
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 26118

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                              Ok, it's not industry suicide as Perfection Jeff, the most "successful single girl site owner" refers to it, very ironic i might ad. It is BUSINESS.

                                                              She will find a company, the company will shoot her softcore, throw up a webcam chat and do pretty damn good, offer her like 5k to 10k/month.

                                                              Steve, if you want my advice, just pay 3k to 4k/month, she will be thrilled with that, and you wont have to be pissed off for a whole year, that along is worth it.
                                                              You make a decent point, but Tawnee Stone's strongest asset is no longer her looks or cute personality, it is her branding as "Tawnee Stone". Without that, she is just another average looking brunette model, wanting hundreds of thousands of dollars per year just to pose nude.

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                                                              • Bake
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 5916

                                                                #131
                                                                All good things come to a end. I doubt very much she can make more with someone eles than with you and yes the constant softcore had to stop theres only so many ways one girl can be shoot. If she will not at least do some more edgie stuff it was time for her to go. The fact that you where willing to pay her 2k a month to keep her exclusive and help her out shows you care about her. To me I think its time she went out there and finds out for herself.
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                                                                • dready
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 5247

                                                                  #132
                                                                  About the severance, is that $2k to let her go on good terms, or is it to prevent her from working for anyone else? If it's truely severance she should be damn happy. If it means she can't work, then yeah, it's going to be hard to live off $24k.

                                                                  I would spend the money looking for her replacement. Let her go work for someone else... she'll be nothing without Lightspeed and your trademark.
                                                                  Last edited by dready; 02-23-2005, 07:00 PM.
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                                                                  • SteveLightspeed
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 7940

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                                                    Is the severance deal because you don't want to work with her anymore or because she wants out? And if she wants out, why would she be going to other companies?

                                                                    I really don't understand. I'm assuming the only reason you decided to post this email is because you figure that soon enough other companies will be posting emails from her.
                                                                    I didn't renew her contract. She refused to do live shows, nude public appearances, or anything besides softcore content. She wouldn't even answer her own fan mail or write her own daily journal.

                                                                    She wanted $10k/month to do less than any of our other models, and lots of them resented her for it.

                                                                    So my solution was to pay her the $10k+/month, and shoot years of content ahead while we trademarked the name Tawnee Stone. Now that its all done, I offered her $2000/month in severance, so she can finish school without losing her new house. But, of course, now she will make me look like an asshole for my trouble.

                                                                    I started this thread because I would rather people know my side of the story before the rumors start flying when she starts emailing people.

                                                                    Steve Lightspeed
                                                                    Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                    • BradShaw
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 7840

                                                                      #134
                                                                      I would not pay the girls a dime. Shoot the hell out of them for a month and kick them to the curb. You try to be good to them, and you get this crap.
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                                                                      • Kard63
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                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                        • 8944

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                        Not at all. Tawnee was paid over $130k last year. We have stockpiled an enormous amount of content of her, and she refuses to do anything more than simple nudity. I offered her $24k over the next 12 month for DOING NOTHING. The $2000/month was a severance deal, I didn't want her to lose her new house.

                                                                        Steve Lightspeed
                                                                        Sounds like you are a hell of a guy.


                                                                        Unless she has a better severance deal in her contract, then you are a douche j/k man.

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                                                                        • Chio The Pirate
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                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 946

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                                                          D'oh! Guess I should have read the whole thread. Still, how about like $50,000 severance. She has made you millions right?
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                                                                          • LadyMischief
                                                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 18135

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                                                            Wow,
                                                                            by the way I agree with her, she should get more than $2,000 per month.

                                                                            To do absolutely nothing?

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                                                                            • nofx
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 16826

                                                                              #138
                                                                              crazzzzy

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                                                                              • rhizome
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 788

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Welles
                                                                                2. Ignore the email and continue on as business as usual and chalk it up to youth and stupidity(I am sure you have been there too) and will soon realize how dumb she actually is.
                                                                                Explain to me how she is being dumb. I think she is being very smart. Basically Lightspeed terminated their contract and offered her 2K/month to not do any web work. Even if she can no longer use her name, 2K/month is nothing. She knows she can easily make that under a different name with a different company. It's not her smarts that are lacking but rather her professionalism and respect.

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                                                                                • Meloman
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 1540

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                  I didn't renew her contract. She refused to do live shows, nude public appearances, or anything besides softcore content. She wouldn't even answer her own fan mail or write her own daily journal.

                                                                                  She wanted $10k/month to do less than any of our other models, and lots of them resented her for it.

                                                                                  So my solution was to pay her the $10k+/month, and shoot years of content ahead while we trademarked the name Tawnee Stone. Now that its all done, I offered her $2000/month in severance, so she can finish school without losing her new house. But, of course, now she will make me look like an asshole for my trouble.

                                                                                  I started this thread because I would rather people know my side of the story before the rumors start flying when she starts emailing people.

                                                                                  Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                  Looks like you saw this comming a long time ago and took the proper steps to prepare yourself.

                                                                                  Sounds like she was VERY well paid to begin with and now she's spoiled and wants to continue being overpaid for little work.

                                                                                  Bye Bye Tawnee...Nice knowing you

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                                                                                  • SteveLightspeed
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 7940

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                    I would not pay the girls a dime. Shoot the hell out of them for a month and kick them to the curb. You try to be good to them, and you get this crap.
                                                                                    Fucking crazy when you and I start agreeing. Times they are a-changin'!

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                                                                                    • Sosa
                                                                                      In Tushy Land
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 40149

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      screw her, you say you got enough content just keep making money off her site and launch the next lightspeed girl.

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                                                                                      • swedguy
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                        • 7981

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        I thought it was going to be some fake drama, considering all the fake drama threads lately. Then on page 3 Steve was going to say that Tawnee was going to start doing hardcore... boy was I wrong

                                                                                        You've been more than generous

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                                                                                        • NaughtyRob
                                                                                          Two fresh affiliate progs
                                                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                                                          • 29602

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                          To do absolutely nothing?
                                                                                          Like an idiot I posted before reading the whole thread.
                                                                                          But perhaps she could get a chunk Steve, then say bye bye.
                                                                                          Like give her a check and end it.
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                                                                                          • sexxxychat69
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                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                            • 394

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Wow

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                                                                                            • Jay_StandAhead
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                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 3103

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by rhizome
                                                                                              Explain to me how she is being dumb. I think she is being very smart. Basically Lightspeed terminated their contract and offered her 2K/month to not do any web work. Even if she can no longer use her name, 2K/month is nothing. She knows she can easily make that under a different name with a different company. It's not her smarts that are lacking but rather her professionalism and respect.
                                                                                              I don't think she can "easily" make more than $2k/month with only softcore with another comapny.

                                                                                              It's all about hardcore these days, and she's not 18yo anymore so she might not attract the teen softcore crowd.

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                                                                                              • dirtysouth
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                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                • 2613

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Only read the 1st page. See sig.
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                                                                                                • cosis
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                  • 5292

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                                  I didn't renew her contract. She refused to do live shows, nude public appearances, or anything besides softcore content.
                                                                                                  I remember her doing a set with a baby cock in her mouth

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                                                                                                  • Young
                                                                                                    Bland for life
                                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                                    • 10468

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                                                                                    Like an idiot I posted before reading the whole thread.
                                                                                                    But perhaps she could get a chunk Steve, then say bye bye.
                                                                                                    Like give her a check and end it.
                                                                                                    Why should he give her a chunk? Business is business. Steve already did the nice guy thing and offered her 2k. Let her move on. Don't give her shit. She is no good to you anymore. Business is business.
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                                                                                                    • SteveLightspeed
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by cosis
                                                                                                      I remember her doing a set with a baby cock in her mouth
                                                                                                      First year of shooting, never again, after her parents found out.
                                                                                                      Abra-cadabra!

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