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  • Young
    Bland for life
    • Nov 2004
    • 10468

    #51
    50 winers.

    Steve I would settle this as soon as possible...before she gets the other girls thinking.

    We might see the first Solo Girl Union
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    • pornstar2pac
      Omaha Hi/Lo
      • Nov 2003
      • 17380

      #52
      Originally posted by JFPdude
      You can't pay your rent.


      I will get a job at Arby's down the street.


      Tell her she hired
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      • Spunky
        I need a beer
        • Jun 2002
        • 133978

        #53
        Ungrateful Diva

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        • tony299
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #54
          Originally posted by sonofsam
          are you stupid? do you read before replying???? 2000/month was a severance package!!!
          He says severance but she says its to be exclusive to lightspeed .That doesnt sound like severance.

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          • V_RocKs
            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
            • Nov 2003
            • 32467

            #55
            OK, so she got paid an average of $2708 a week plus change. That is actually VERY HIGH for a single girl model to get paid and Steve actually is considered to be an industry spoiler because he pays his models a pretty high sum for softcore porn.

            Well, Tammy, I hope you find another goose that lays golden eggs because Steve is the only one that I know of. Most single girl models make $500 a session (1 session a week) or less.

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            • Young
              Bland for life
              • Nov 2004
              • 10468

              #56
              Originally posted by spunky
              50 Ungrateful Divas
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              • StuartD
                Sofa King Band
                • Jul 2002
                • 29903

                #57
                I think if you have the content done, and you're paying her for doing nothing now as it is... and she wants to go... let her go. You lose nothing, infact, save a lot.

                I think she'll be in for quite a reality shock if she does push for other companies to take her.
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                • AWW - Kevin
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 2353

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Lightspeed
                  Not at all. Tawnee was paid over $130k last year. We have stockpiled an enormous amount of content of her, and she refuses to do anything more than simple nudity. I offered her $24k over the next 12 month for DOING NOTHING. The $2000/month was a severance deal, I didn't want her to lose her new house.

                  Steve Lightspeed
                  makes things a little clearer, good luck Steve


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                  • keyboard warrior
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 1435

                    #59
                    Sig SPOT
                    - nothing here -

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                    • SteveLightspeed
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 7940

                      #60
                      Originally posted by tony404
                      I think it doesnt help when you talk about making millions on this board . It tends to make people feel like they are being slighted even if they are not .
                      Its not what you make, its what you keep. Does everyone expect me to promote Tawnee and give her ALL the profits? How much should the thousands of hours of work me and my staff have spent promoting her be worth?

                      Steve Lightspeed
                      Last edited by SteveLightspeed; 02-23-2005, 06:14 PM.
                      Abra-cadabra!

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                      • reynold
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 51271

                        #61
                        That is so sad.

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                        • Young
                          Bland for life
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 10468

                          #62
                          Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                          I think she'll be in for quite a reality shock if she does push for other companies to take her.
                          She'll be doing DP in two months, and banging down Steve's door in 3.
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                          • Pipecrew
                            Master of Gfy.com
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 14888

                            #63
                            Originally posted by spunky
                            Ungrateful Diva

                            You are the biggest sigwhore ever, jesus christ, In this thread alone you have posted 3 useless replies.. Over a day that ammounts to 100's of useless replies, you are getting worse then Dr Dre.

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                            • JFPdude
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 4027

                              #64
                              Steve it was a good run with her but sounds like she is causing more problems than it's worth specially when there are a lot more willing to take her place.

                              Time to let her go.

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                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #65
                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                OK, so she got paid an average of $2708 a week plus change. That is actually VERY HIGH for a single girl model to get paid and Steve actually is considered to be an industry spoiler because he pays his models a pretty high sum for softcore porn.

                                Well, Tammy, I hope you find another goose that lays golden eggs because Steve is the only one that I know of. Most single girl models make $500 a session (1 session a week) or less.
                                Tell me if Im wrong but she was the face to launch light speed .She had that very unique look that did well for lightspeed. Now we all know there is more to a website then a face but girls dont see that.

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                                • evildick

                                  #66
                                  Hopefully the first crew she decides to go work for is Max Hardcore & gang. He'll give her what she deserves.

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                                  • Sly
                                    Let's do some business!
                                    • Sep 2004
                                    • 31380

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                    Its not what you make, its what you keep. Does everyone expect me to promote Tawnee and give her ALL the profits? How much should the thousands of hours of work me and my staff have spent promoting her be worth?

                                    Steve Lightspeed
                                    Sounds like you have been more than generous regarding compensation. No other company will pay her what you did. She will find that out very soon.
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                                    • sonofsam
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 18648

                                      #68
                                      retract your severance offer and even if no other companies take her in... don't let her come back... teach her to ungreatful and lose her house
                                      I like turtles.

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                                      • tony299
                                        lurker
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 57021

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                        Its not what you make, its what you keep. Does everyone expect me to promote Tawnee and give her ALL the profits? How much should the thousands of hours of work me and my staff have spent promoting her be worth?

                                        Steve Lightspeed
                                        Your preaching to the choir but models see we have made millions and thats all they see. Thats why its better to say we have done well instead.

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                                        • Headless
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 26727

                                          #70
                                          See Sigggggggggggggggggggggggggg

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                                          • Shoehorn!
                                            Die With Your Boots On
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 22872

                                            #71
                                            Didn't a similar thing just happen with "Kenzie Kenner"?

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                                            • NoComments
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2005
                                              • 4957

                                              #72
                                              http://www.winetalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=672

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                                              • Mr.Fiction
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                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 9484

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by evildick
                                                Hopefully the first crew she decides to go work for is Max Hardcore & gang.
                                                Fucked up.
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                                                • Spunky
                                                  I need a beer
                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 133978

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                  You are the biggest sigwhore ever, jesus christ, In this thread alone you have posted 3 useless replies.. Over a day that ammounts to 100's of useless replies, you are getting worse then Dr Dre.
                                                  #4 And all you do is fucking whine..Put me on ignore then you fucking crybaby I can post whatever the fuck I want

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                                                  • Chris
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 27880

                                                    #75
                                                    well i guess it could be true
                                                    but Steve as it is already said in this thread
                                                    let her go - she IS getting old .. real life as well as her content

                                                    Hotter girls are coming more and more every day.....once you let her go she will try to go to another company... sure she will get picked up.. some company will flip and pay a stupid amount to get her and when they try to sell her - they will see she is OLD now ... no one wants to see tawnee anymore ... they want to see tawnee years ago

                                                    I was wondering when the end of her would be... i guess now would be a good time?

                                                    She is sorta threating you - you can spend a month searching MAX and find someone who will make you 1000x more than tawnee will Steve


                                                    Let her go and let her realize what this industry is really like for content girls

                                                    she will try crawling back to you once she finds out what it is really like and not having a cushy contract
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                                                    • sonofsam
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                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 18648

                                                      #76
                                                      actually she probably has a big member fan base that will follow her chris ^
                                                      I like turtles.

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                                                      • TheMob
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 8584

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                        retract your severance offer and even if no other companies take her in... don't let her come back... teach her to ungreatful and lose her house
                                                        I could name 10 companies that would snap her up in a blink.

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                                                        • inthestars
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 2021

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                          Not at all. Tawnee was paid over $130k last year. We have stockpiled an enormous amount of content of her, and she refuses to do anything more than simple nudity. I offered her $24k over the next 12 month for DOING NOTHING. The $2000/month was a severance deal, I didn't want her to lose her new house.

                                                          Steve Lightspeed
                                                          She made $130k last year and would have been in danger of losing her house this year if you didn't pay her 2k a month? What the hell does she do with her money?

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                                                          • thefool
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                            • 1593

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Advanced Intellect
                                                            Wow.

                                                            Interesting

                                                            maybe if she was WORKING! providing NEW content, but if he's using shit she was already paid for prior and she's not doing anything, $2k seems more than sufficient. Tell her she can sign up as an affiliate and make some $ on selling her own stuff if she wants more cash!

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                                                            • SteveLightspeed
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                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 7940

                                                              #80
                                                              Couple side notes

                                                              1) I didn't renew her contract because she refuses to do anything but softcore, for any price. I offered her $25k for a one-hour POV that she refused.

                                                              2) I own the trademark to the name Tawnee Stone, she can't use it when she leaves.

                                                              3) She is now 4 years older, and not the 18 year old star that she was.

                                                              4) She causes a lot of drama in my studio with our other models, constantly reminding them that she is the #1 girl.
                                                              Abra-cadabra!

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                                                              • Chris
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 27880

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                actually she probably has a big member fan base that will follow her chris ^
                                                                im sure steve owns the copywrite to tawnee stone
                                                                and he said he has stock pile of content to last him awhile

                                                                she does NOT look the same anymore - she is AGING

                                                                sure she goes to a new company but guess what ... under a new name and steve can still keep updating tawneestone with fresh content that her surfers want to see
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                                                                • Muffin
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                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 568

                                                                  #82
                                                                  i hope this situation works out best for steve....what can i say....i am a fan!

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                                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 32467

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                    retract your severance offer and even if no other companies take her in... don't let her come back... teach her to ungreatful and lose her house
                                                                    Negative... some of the other girls look up to her (even if she is a bitch).

                                                                    I think $2000 a month for nothing is pretty good. If the site is going to stay up and continue to make cash, I'd offer her something more or different in terms of percentage. But I'd also do this quietly and make her sign something to keep the negotiations terms a secret.

                                                                    The last thing you need is Jordan to leave too... So basically you need to base your decisions on not just what Tawnee Stone is going to do to you, but what the other top sellers will also do.

                                                                    Think in terms of the Lakers... They are fucked and are holding on to the last playoff spot by a thread. Yes, even you can go from Millionair to less than zero in a year or two. It is better to keep her around and happy then to have the girls think you are an asshole. Especially if Tawnee finds a company that will take her in.
                                                                    Last edited by V_RocKs; 02-23-2005, 06:25 PM.

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                                                                    • Young
                                                                      Bland for life
                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                      • 10468

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Steve you should have had a salary cap to manage your talent.
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                                                                      • BVF
                                                                        Black Vagina Finder
                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                        • 13975

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Steve probably never heard of this girl but there was a girl who was a PHENOMENON within the Ebony Big Booty niche and her name was Miss Thickness. She hit the scene a few years ago with Missthickness.com and EVERYBODY was kissing her ass...Then she got uppity and went from person to person trying to get more money than she was probably getting with the person who made her famous.

                                                                        Now she has some .net site and she's probably making some money but I know for a fact that she couldn't possibly be making what she used to make....

                                                                        When a girl gets hot online, her head swells up and she starts thinking that her pussy is worth more than it actually is. This happens with strippers, prostitutes, and now it's happening with internet models.

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                                                                        • Chris
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 27880

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                          Couple side notes

                                                                          1) I didn't renew her contract because she refuses to do anything but softcore, for any price. I offered her $25k for a one-hour POV that she refused.

                                                                          2) I own the trademark to the name Tawnee Stone, she can't use it when she leaves.

                                                                          3) She is now 4 years older, and not the 18 year old star that she was.

                                                                          4) She causes a lot of drama in my studio with our other models, constantly reminding them that she is the #1 girl.
                                                                          steve is there any real question then?

                                                                          let her go - take that 25k and go find a new tawnee
                                                                          make it a world search
                                                                          or up the reward for someone to find you the next tawnee to what her greedy ass wants to be paid

                                                                          show her that you DONT need her


                                                                          i think you have just had her to long and you dont want to let go
                                                                          maybe you got a little attached to her - i know i would get attached to a money machine that she WAS ( and still will be sence you own the name and content )

                                                                          you know what ya gotta do
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                                                                          • tony299
                                                                            lurker
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 57021

                                                                            #87
                                                                            it so much easier when your married to your model lol

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                                                                            • Chio The Pirate
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 946

                                                                              #88
                                                                              YARGH me hearties, As God is my witness, I'll rape and pillage any website taking the pretty Miss Stone away from the good ship Steve.

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                                                                              • StuartD
                                                                                Sofa King Band
                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 29903

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                                actually she probably has a big member fan base that will follow her chris ^
                                                                                Follow her? Steve has years of content to update with... her "fan base" would never know she was gone. They may find another site with a girl that looks identical to Tawnee Stone but has a different name.
                                                                                But they won't leave tawneestone.com because for all the members know, she'll still be there.
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                                                                                • inthestars
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                  • 2021

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  She's a drama queen.. this is funny as hell.. like the E! True Hollywood story, only its porn!

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                                                                                  • Chris
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 27880

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                    Negative... some of the other girls look up to her (even if she is a bitch).

                                                                                    I think $2000 a month for nothing is pretty good. If the site is going to stay up and continue to make cash, I'd offer her something more or different in terms of percentage. But I'd also do this quietly and make her sign something to keep the negotiations terms a secret.

                                                                                    The last thing you need is Jordan to leave too... So basically you need to base your decisions on not just what Tawnee Stone is going to do to you, but what the other top sellers will also do.

                                                                                    Think in terms of the Lakers... They are fucked and are holding on to the last playoff spot by a thread. Yes, even you can go from Millionair to less than zero in a year or two. It is better to keep her around and happy then to have the girls think you are an asshole. Especially if Tawnee finds a company that will take her in.
                                                                                    i doubt the girls will leave lightspeed if tawnee does

                                                                                    as steve said she causes drama with the other girls

                                                                                    im sure jordan would like to be #1 for awhile
                                                                                    and that will happeni f tawnee leaves

                                                                                    im sure jordan is getting close to beating tawnee in sales anyways
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                                                                                    • rowan
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                                                                                      • Mar 2002
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Wow, how quickly everyone turns...

                                                                                      Steve, what are your views on her moving elsewhere? Do you think that any other programs will have sufficient pull to promote the "new" Tawnee site or will it just fall in a heap with most of the net still following the updates on tawneestone.com ? I presume you have plenty of content to keep it going.

                                                                                      Was the $2k per month to remain exclusive to LS ("have a break, do nothing for any adult company including ours") or was it unconditional?

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                                                                                      • sacX
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                                                                                        • Dec 2002
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Surely the $24,000 involves a non-compete clause so she CAN'T do other web work.

                                                                                        So it's not like she's doing NOTHING, she's sacrificing potential income if she teamed up with another sponsor (which most likely she could do).
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                                                                                        • Chris
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                          • 27880

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                          Wow, how quickly everyone turns...

                                                                                          Steve, what are your views on her moving elsewhere? Do you think that any other programs will have sufficient pull to promote the "new" Tawnee site or will it just fall in a heap with most of the net still following the updates on tawneestone.com ? I presume you have plenty of content to keep it going.

                                                                                          Was the $2k per month to remain exclusive to LS ("have a break, do nothing for any adult company including ours") or was it unconditional?
                                                                                          no other site can make a new tawnee site
                                                                                          it will have to be like awnee one lol
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                                                                                          • Shoehorn!
                                                                                            Die With Your Boots On
                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                            • 22872

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Chio The Pirate
                                                                                            YARGH me hearties, As God is my witness, I'll rape and pillage any website taking the pretty Miss Stone away from the good ship Steve.

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                                                                                            • Chris
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 27880

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by sacX
                                                                                              Surely the $24,000 involves a non-compete clause so she CAN'T do other web work.

                                                                                              So it's not like she's doing NOTHING, she's sacrificing potential income if she teamed up with another sponsor (which most likely she could do).
                                                                                              im sure it was 24k to stay exclusive to lightspeed yes

                                                                                              everyone wants tawnee 18 years old
                                                                                              not tawnee 21+
                                                                                              she wont make any cash with any other company unless she starts doing hardcore and steve said he has tried everything to get her to do it
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                                                                                              • SomeCreep
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                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 26118

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                                Not at all. Tawnee was paid over $130k last year. We have stockpiled an enormous amount of content of her, and she refuses to do anything more than simple nudity. I offered her $24k over the next 12 month for DOING NOTHING. The $2000/month was a severance deal, I didn't want her to lose her new house.

                                                                                                Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                Wow, this model was nothing before you made her into a star. You paid her over $130k last year just for posing nude and she still wants more money? Unbelievable.

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                                                                                                • PerfectionGirls
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  You already know my take on it.

                                                                                                  If shes shopping a deal then fuck her. DOnt pay her a dime. If she wont accept the 2k a month for doing nothing after all you have paid her then again, fuck her.

                                                                                                  Any program that picked her up would be commiting industy suicide. Not only that, shes the most branded name girl on the internet. Shes branded as hell making her worthless as anything but Tawnee Stone.

                                                                                                  She might find a job doing DP with two big black dude, but other then that... she has ZERO value for anyone.

                                                                                                  Kick her bitchy ass out and let her see how good she had it. No need to be nice Steve, you know as well as I do she would fuck you over without thinking about it.
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                                                                                                  • FTVGirls
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                    • 1052

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Well about 4 weeks ago (Steve knows about this) Tawnee did contact me, to make a single girl website for her. As much as I would love to, I cannot 'burn any bridges' as they say, and told her I couldn't.

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                                                                                                    • tungsten
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                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      let her go dude, you paid her well and she is getting spoiled, you can find another gal
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