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No black jurors for Michael Jackson

02-23-2005, 10:45 AM

Tom Snedden just used his last challenge to kick the last potential black juror out of the case. He has now sat a conservative middle-class jury, the most likely to convict on these charges.

So much for a jury of your peers...

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02-23-2005, 10:46 AM

No black defendant either.

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02-23-2005, 10:49 AM

7 whites, 4 hispanics and 1 asian
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02-23-2005, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by ADL_JD

No black defendant either.
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02-23-2005, 10:50 AM

no black jurors? hes gonna get aquited...i mean hes been white for most his life

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02-23-2005, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by ADL_JD

No black defendant either.
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02-23-2005, 10:51 AM

So many jokes to be made about this

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02-23-2005, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by DavieVegas

no black jurors? hes gonna get aquited...i mean hes been white for most his life

Personally i would think having black jurors on the case is something that the defense team wouldnt want under any circumstances.

Wacko has done his best over the last decade or 3 to get away from his black roots and im sure that would play in the minds of any black jurors in this case somewhat.

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02-23-2005, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by ADL_JD

No black defendant either.

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02-23-2005, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by ADL_JD

No black defendant either.

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02-23-2005, 10:54 AM

MJ is fucked for sure now

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02-23-2005, 10:57 AM

im just waiting for the accusers parents to take the 50 million and have the case disolve.

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02-23-2005, 10:57 AM

They are already calling them "The Jackson Twelve"
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02-23-2005, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by mardigras

So much for a jury of your peers...

What do you mean? For him to have a jury of peers, you would have to load the panel with white 40+ yr old pedos.. hmmm, find some of the webmasters of those pedo-sites

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02-23-2005, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by jimb

im just waiting for the accusers parents to take the 50 million and have the case disolve.

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Won't happen. They changed the law because of and for Michael Jackson. They could actually throw the kid in jail if he didn't testify against Jackson.

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02-23-2005, 11:26 AM

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What do you mean? For him to have a jury of peers, you would have to load the panel with white 40+ yr old pedos.. hmmm, find some of the webmasters of those pedo-sites

LOL, funny. Now for a serious response. If this were a true jury of his peers, based on the area there would be at least one Latino.

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02-23-2005, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by cosis

7 whites, 4 hispanics and 1 asian

Well MJ does look like he is 7/12 white 4/12 hispanic and 1/12 asian
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02-23-2005, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

Personally i would think having black jurors on the case is something that the defense team wouldnt want under any circumstances.

Wacko has done his best over the last decade or 3 to get away from his black roots and im sure that would play in the minds of any black jurors in this case somewhat.

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02-23-2005, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by mardigras

LOL, funny. Now for a serious response. If this were a true jury of his peers, based on the area there would be at least one Latino.

There is, 4 of them.

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02-23-2005, 11:57 AM

haha he isn't black, he's just a wierd child molester.

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02-23-2005, 11:59 AM

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No black defendant either.

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02-23-2005, 12:03 PM

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No black defendant either.

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02-23-2005, 12:11 PM

"peers" doesnt mean your race..thats got nothing to do with jury selection. The 12 people are people from around where he lives. They're basically his neighbors from his community. Nobody is going to be an exact replica of any defendant.. especially not an eccentric superstar with his own bizarre sprawling ranch with kiddie rides, lol.

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02-23-2005, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by lazycash

There is, 4 of them.

Ah, earlier in the day I had heard there were none.

3 days was too quick to sit this jury. 10 minutes (strict) with each potential juror with all requests for extentions or in camera meetings denied is going to leave a good appellate issue if there's a conviction.

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02-23-2005, 12:14 PM

if it was a jury of his peers, it would be a jury of freakish looking chimpanzees.

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02-23-2005, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by mardigras

They changed the law because of and for Michael Jackson. They could actually throw the kid in jail if he didn't testify against Jackson.

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02-23-2005, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by PR_Tom

"peers" doesnt mean your race..thats got nothing to do with jury selection. The 12 people are people from around where he lives.

I would bet that if there was a black defendant from an area that is 80% black and they sat an all-white jury an appellate court would likely agree that they were not served by a jury of their peers.

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02-23-2005, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by mardigras

I would bet that if there was a black defendant from an area that is 80% black and they sat an all-white jury an appellate court would likely agree that they were not served by a jury of their peers.

maybe it should be a jury of idiots that have a private zoo, sleep in an oxygen tent, fondle children, live in a fantasy amusement park, collect human bones and change their skin color?
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02-23-2005, 12:27 PM

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seriously?

Yep, Tom Sneddon was instrumental in changing the law. Not only can they now bring in evidence from the 90's case they previously couldn't, they could proceed without the cooperation of the current claimant if they had enough other witnesses they thought could prove the case.

The main reason for these changes was Michael Jackson, so Sneddon jumped at the opportunity to charge him again after that documentary aired where he admitted letting kids sleep in his bed.

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02-23-2005, 12:28 PM

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maybe it should be a jury of idiots that have a private zoo, sleep in an oxygen tent, fondle children, live in a fantasy amusement park, collect human bones and change their skin color?

Are you white? If so, how would you feel if you were charged with a crime against a black victim and there were no white jury members?

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02-23-2005, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by mardigras

I would bet that if there was a black defendant from an area that is 80% black and they sat an all-white jury an appellate court would likely agree that they were not served by a jury of their peers.

But thats my point. The 12 people ARE his neighbors. Race is not an issue in seating the jury..

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02-23-2005, 12:45 PM

it doesn't matter if you're black or white
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02-23-2005, 12:57 PM

Supposedly alot of the jurors have children.. this could get ugly for him..

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02-23-2005, 01:01 PM

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Supposedly alot of the jurors have children.. this could get ugly for him..

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02-23-2005, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by ADL_JD

No black defendant either.

haha, good one.

truth is, even if the jury was 100% black jackson is going to fry on this one.

in fact, jackson trying to become white and fuck around with little white boys turns their stomachs just as much as anyone else.

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02-23-2005, 02:59 PM

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Supposedly alot of the jurors have children.. this could get ugly for him..

Yep. Not looking good for MJ at all.

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02-23-2005, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by mardigras

Tom Snedden just used his last challenge to kick the last potential black juror out of the case. He has now sat a conservative middle-class jury, the most likely to convict on these charges.

So much for a jury of your peers...

Black folks quit claiming Jackson once he turned white and got a monkey!

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02-23-2005, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by ADL_JD

No black defendant either.

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02-23-2005, 04:20 PM

What does color have to do with the case anyway?
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02-23-2005, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by reynold

What does color have to do with the case anyway?

It doesn't, but it will to a percentage of the jurors whether they admit it or not.

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02-23-2005, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by escorpio

O.J. Simpson wasn't exactly a down brotha and look what black jurors did for him.

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02-23-2005, 08:29 PM

If the glove don't fit. You must acquit.

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02-23-2005, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by mardigras

Are you white? If so, how would you feel if you were charged with a crime against a black victim and there were no white jury members?

apparently you have no idea how jurors are selected. do you need to be taken to law school? or you comfortable that can you research it on your own?
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02-23-2005, 08:59 PM

do you know why michael jackson likes twenty eight year olds?

because there is twenty of them.
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02-23-2005, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

apparently you have no idea how jurors are selected. do you need to be taken to law school? or you comfortable that can you research it on your own?

If you don't think lawyers care whether they have black or white jurors on their case you obviously missed the news coverage today

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02-23-2005, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by ADL_JD

No black defendant either.
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02-23-2005, 09:04 PM

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02-23-2005, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by mardigras

If you don't think lawyers care whether they have black or white jurors on their case you obviously missed the news coverage today

both the lawyers and the prosecutor choose/question/approve/dismiss the jurors. they are not appointed, they are selected.

if you think that any statement made on the news on behalf of Michael Jackson is not a part of the typical showbusiness leading up to a media circus of a trial for a walking freakshow who diddles kids, you have obviously missed more than a few random statements on TV.

Too bad Johnny Cocharan is not on this... "if the penis don't fit, you must acquit"

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