do any of you hosts offer unmetered bandwidth solutions? i have a project that will be looking for 300-500mbit on a 100mbit burst.
Sucking a golf ball through a hose.. it aint gonna fit.. but so slow. i hope you mean a 1000burst :P
I can do dedicated 300-500mbps or just a 100mbps @20mbps + server fees. I have a gige with BTN and a second gige thats blended with tiscali,cogent,nlayer that were turning up this week .
Remote reboot port and kvm over ip access when needed. icq me
and before any one flames yes iI have my own racks in a datacenter, not a reseller.
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Thanks Bob.
OC3 offers the largest throughput and the most peering at a very good value, nobody does big bandwith like we do. over 100 direct peers to the largest networks like aol and cox directly.. Low hops to europe, asia and north america. send me an icq I will be back in the office tonight.
everyone seems to have the biggest and best networks :-/
all in the eye of the beholder.
true.
how to seperate the BS from reality, that is the question. many of us are not smart enough to know---is there an independent resource that rates hosts on connectivity?
if so, what is it?
i need about 30-50mbps for this box, and it must be reliable.
Let us know what youre looking for and we can help you out. We only use level 1 bandwidth so we guarantee quality bandwidth and our prices cant be beat.
how to seperate the BS from reality, that is the question. many of us are not smart enough to know---is there an independent resource that rates hosts on connectivity?
if so, what is it?
i need about 30-50mbps for this box, and it must be reliable.
how to seperate the BS from reality, that is the question. many of us are not smart enough to know---is there an independent resource that rates hosts on connectivity?
if so, what is it?
i need about 30-50mbps for this box, and it must be reliable.
i'm not the biggest host by no means but the level of service you get is on a personal level and not just in the mix, not alot of customers but my customers are usally 50+mbps each. I do host smaller servers, I host one of chios servers and thats a 10mbps deal. For him being a unmannaged customer he actully gets managed service.
As far as rating hosting companies there are a million review sites out there and believe it or not the more you pay to advertise on them the better your review is.. amazing .. i've been in hosting for 6 years now and all the marketing sites are the same.
in the short you really can't go wrong with an ISP that has two or more diverse paths. Example. I have a dedicated Gige with BTN, yet I also have a mixed blend gige with Pull The Plug networks each network is on different hardware and i havn't mixed the two yet waiting for my AS number to start doing BGP.
most decent providers these days (if using cisco) have redundent sup cards and power supplies so really if one system does fail it doesn't go down, so with the playing field even in this aspect go with the host that you like and get that warm fuzzy feeling with.
What makes you think a second sup in a 6500/7600 will help you much..
You need to not be drinking that kinda cisco kool-aid it will kill you.
Originally posted by Spudstr
i'm not the biggest host by no means but the level of service you get is on a personal level and not just in the mix, not alot of customers but my customers are usally 50+mbps each. I do host smaller servers, I host one of chios servers and thats a 10mbps deal. For him being a unmannaged customer he actully gets managed service.
As far as rating hosting companies there are a million review sites out there and believe it or not the more you pay to advertise on them the better your review is.. amazing .. i've been in hosting for 6 years now and all the marketing sites are the same.
in the short you really can't go wrong with an ISP that has two or more diverse paths. Example. I have a dedicated Gige with BTN, yet I also have a mixed blend gige with Pull The Plug networks each network is on different hardware and i havn't mixed the two yet waiting for my AS number to start doing BGP.
most decent providers these days (if using cisco) have redundent sup cards and power supplies so really if one system does fail it doesn't go down, so with the playing field even in this aspect go with the host that you like and get that warm fuzzy feeling with.
What makes you think a second sup in a 6500/7600 will help you much..
You need to not be drinking that kinda cisco kool-aid it will kill you.
OH? ever heard of HSRP? this is what the dual boards can do.
I know several larges hosting companies running full bgp out of a sup720 and even a sup2/msfc2 cards that are not more than a few gigs example the sup2/msfc2 can not support a 10gb card but the sup720 will.
And yes you can run dual Sup2 cards and dual MSFC2 daughterboards in a 6500
want to know a few large isps that run this setup? http://stats.ptptech.com they usally run at 4gbps.. oh and look at orange fiber they are running 25gbps and they are running their routing on 6500's.
the reason why people do this route is usally because a true port cost on a real router such as a juniper is 8-9k PER PORT for a gige. Not to mention juniper only made a handful of 10Gb pics and sold for ~100k each and are no longer supported by Juniper. I'd gladly spend 15k on a sup720 card and another 7k on a 16port gbic card.
cisco is ok for some things. their software and usability is really pretty good, BUT, never for high bandwidth applications. NEVER. Trust the network engineer. it just does not handle the performance need over the long haul, especially if you are doing bgp and assorted bgp related controls. HSRP is interesting and works, but this is more for 10 meg applications. 100 meg maybe, but running Gigs over that set up will make you tear your hair out. CPU cycles will go sky high.
I'm very fimialr with 6500's and HSRP and GSR's and most other larger network equipment. I have been to Cisco labs and have had responsibility for 100's of pieces of LARGE cisco gear. What I'm saying is the marketing material is very diffrent from reality
Originally posted by Spudstr
OH? ever heard of HSRP? this is what the dual boards can do.
I know several larges hosting companies running full bgp out of a sup720 and even a sup2/msfc2 cards that are not more than a few gigs example the sup2/msfc2 can not support a 10gb card but the sup720 will.
And yes you can run dual Sup2 cards and dual MSFC2 daughterboards in a 6500
juniper still sells 10G interfaces. my argument isn;t againt a 6500's its afine box. My point is a single 6500 even with 2 Sup's is still a single box and will have issues. a single box is not a good design with that platform. Any provider that advocates it being good is lying to you. If you tell you its because a second is $$ then fine.
Originally posted by Spudstr
want to know a few large isps that run this setup? http://stats.ptptech.com they usally run at 4gbps.. oh and look at orange fiber they are running 25gbps and they are running their routing on 6500's.
the reason why people do this route is usally because a true port cost on a real router such as a juniper is 8-9k PER PORT for a gige. Not to mention juniper only made a handful of 10Gb pics and sold for ~100k each and are no longer supported by Juniper. I'd gladly spend 15k on a sup720 card and another 7k on a 16port gbic card.
I"m wondering what you advocate if not cisco for gig's of BW. Do you think a single a Juniper box is more stable then a dual 6500/7600 solution?
Originally posted by Ycaza
cisco is ok for some things. their software and usability is really pretty good, BUT, never for high bandwidth applications. NEVER. Trust the network engineer. it just does not handle the performance need over the long haul, especially if you are doing bgp and assorted bgp related controls. HSRP is interesting and works, but this is more for 10 meg applications. 100 meg maybe, but running Gigs over that set up will make you tear your hair out. CPU cycles will go sky high.
I'm not using hsrp + bgp in a single box, cost vs performance a 6509 +sup720 does the job a m160 does at less of a price. If juniper stil sells the 10gb pics then thats news to me last I heard they didn't.
Why don't you ask alot of the big venders what they use? Verio here in sterling use two 6509's, a00 and a01. Orange fiber uses 6509's, PTP uses 6509s granted they all use redundent 6509's and not two sup cards hsrp between the two. I'm a fan of juniper but being practical their prices are way to expensive per port unless your on a goverment contract with cash to spend.
I'm not saying a single juniper box is more stable than dual 6500/7600. If you have one.. or two incomming lines thats one thing but if your talking 2x 10gb + 10 gige connections to your network performance for the dollar the 6500/7600 setup is the way to go. granted you still have your m160 + your going to need a 6500 series or so for a core.
I don't know about you but i don't have 200k sitting around for my network right now do you? :-/
For speed foundry, for real power, force 10, junipers, nothin sucks there, shit a riverstone does throughput better than csco. if foundry-you best have a jet core.
The next works I work on 200k is nohting I'm not a hosting guy. I work for a tier 1, I have designed/built/managed tier 1 networks for more then 10 yrs now
Originally posted by Spudstr
I'm not using hsrp + bgp in a single box, cost vs performance a 6509 +sup720 does the job a m160 does at less of a price. If juniper stil sells the 10gb pics then thats news to me last I heard they didn't.
Why don't you ask alot of the big venders what they use? Verio here in sterling use two 6509's, a00 and a01. Orange fiber uses 6509's, PTP uses 6509s granted they all use redundent 6509's and not two sup cards hsrp between the two. I'm a fan of juniper but being practical their prices are way to expensive per port unless your on a goverment contract with cash to spend.
I'm not saying a single juniper box is more stable than dual 6500/7600. If you have one.. or two incomming lines thats one thing but if your talking 2x 10gb + 10 gige connections to your network performance for the dollar the 6500/7600 setup is the way to go. granted you still have your m160 + your going to need a 6500 series or so for a core.
I don't know about you but i don't have 200k sitting around for my network right now do you? :-/
You know fondry made or tried to make a core entrance a few yrs back and failed bad right? The BGP sucked ass.
Originally posted by Ycaza
For speed foundry, for real power, force 10, junipers, nothin sucks there, shit a riverstone does throughput better than csco. if foundry-you best have a jet core.
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