Alien, Juicy is a good guy. You guys should chat and move on. There are too many idiot scammers out there to waste your time going back and forth with a good member of the tribe.
Brad, you're right - I have no connections. All I have is a few friends (and they are dwindling) that remember me from those days who will still give me a helping hand just because they are those kind of people (Till I rag on them enuf anyways).
Ever hear of the guy who starts at the bottom of the food chain and works his way up ? I'm at the bottom now I agree, and if all goes well hopefully I have an entry level position to get my feet planted back into the business. While working that job, I will be doing nothing but networking, socializing, and rebuilding those lost connections. If the entry level position doesn't pan out, I will go out about it a different way.
Brad, trust me you are NOT the only one with any business smarts from back in the day, and many people who had more smarts than me and you cmbined dissapeared for a multitude of reasons. So don't think because you were a pioneer of the industry and have been here ever since steadily that it makes you any more intelligent than those people. What really insulted me was that someone such as yourself really thinks they are so much better than someone who slipped out of the industry due to poor LIFE decisions not business decisions.
Brad, you got in at the right place, the right time, and were older than me so you had the partying out of your system... and were more apt to run a business at that point. That's the main difference. I was getting $40K a week dropped into my bank account after all expenses and partners were paid in full at the age of 19, I played my cards stupidly and made alot of mistakes.
It sure as hell does not mean I don't have the business sense you do.
And thats the only difference why he is mentioned and others are not.
Only if Serge was still around to see this: he would be so proud.
winetalk = serge
Originally posted by rayadp05
I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
Visa charges upwards of 30% annual fee's on credit cards sometimes fucken higher!
Thats the biggest racket of all.
But we all use em...
and why do you think they do that ?
Originally posted by rayadp05
I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
Ryan, my intelligence is average. But I will put my work ethic up against anyone. I made $, and wanted more. Most webmasters made $, and blew up, and their businessed died.
Like I said, you have very few opportunities in life to make big $. Some people have none, some people have just one.
You had a huge one, and you blew it. That is simply the reality of things. Many many webmasters like yourself. I just happen to be the exception.
Ryan, my intelligence is average. But I will put my work ethic up against anyone. I made $, and wanted more. Most webmasters made $, and blew up, and their businessed died.
Like I said, you have very few opportunities in life to make big $. Some people have none, some people have just one.
You had a huge one, and you blew it. That is simply the reality of things. Many many webmasters like yourself. I just happen to be the exception.
Weasel a legend in his own mind
Got any domains to sell?
I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com
I feel like I just entered a time capsule. Serge and Brad pissing - there's Ryan...
Very old 'Ynot' - with the exception that it's gotten much nastier.
Re: needing to have 'roots' to make money - I don't really agree. What's needed is:
Some capital
Good content
Knowledge on where to spend your capital to create traffic that converts.
The last is the hardest - but really, with those three, you could start from ground zero with no roots and make a living in this biz. While there are definately geniuses in this biz - it takes far less genius to make an average living than probably in any other biz out there. Selling sex is selling a product that always has demand.
Thousands of Consumers Illegally Billed for "Free Tours" Promoted by Sites
The owners and operators of www.playgirl.com, www.highsociety.com and scores of other adult Web sites have been charged by the Federal Trade Commission with illegally billing thousands of consumers for services that were advertised as "free," and for billing other consumers who never visited the Web sites at all. The FTC and the New York Attorney General have filed suit in U.S. District Court seeking to halt the illegal billing practices and have asked the Court to freeze the defendants' assets, pending trial, to provide for consumer redress.
New York City-based Crescent Publishing Group, Inc., its owner, Bruce Chew, and principal David Bernstein, are named as defendants in the federal court complaint detailing the charges, along with 64 affiliated corporations that operate the adult entertainment Web sites. According to the complaint, the "Free Tour Web Sites" generated income of $188 million between 1997 and October 1999 -- $141 million of which was generated in the first 10 months of 1999 alone.
According to the complaint, the defendants operate scores of adult entertainment Web sites, promoting them as "free." The "Free Tour Web Sites" claim that consumers' credit card numbers are required solely to prove that the consumers are of legal age to view the adult material, and that the credit cards will not be billed. But thousands of consumers were charged recurring monthly membership fees ranging from $20 to $90, the complaint says. Consumers who tried to dispute the charges were met with a variety of barriers designed by the defendants to thwart their efforts. According to the complaint, the defendants use billing names different than the names of the Web sites, so consumers often had no idea who was billing them or why. Moreover, consumers often had difficulty the contacting defendants to get refunds from information provided to them on their billing statement.
According to the joint FTC/ New York A.G. complaint, the defendants routinely change corporate billing names and merchant banks in an attempt to avoid the fraud detection systems of credit card organizations such as Visa U.S.A. When it realized what the defendants were doing, Visa U.S.A. disqualified them from using its credit card system. The defendants moved their merchant banking relationship to Guatemala, adopted several new merchant names, and continued to process credit card transactions.
The FTC and the New York Attorney General allege that Crescent and its principals have violated the FTC Act and New York state law. They have asked the Court to halt the deceptive and unfair practices, to appoint a receiver to oversee the businesses and to freeze the defendants' assets pending trial to preserve them for consumer redress.
The Commission vote to file the complaint was 5-0.
The complaint was filed August 23, 2000 in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.
Colin... take your facts to another board, there is no room here;)
Hey Grimm, my feeble mind didn't get what you meant in that PM you sent. You said you would reply in detail by e-mail but you don't have my e-mail that I know of If you do want to holler, ryan1978 at insightbb.com. Assuming it's a no, I understand your reasons so no reason to get to deep into technicalities
Don't worry Brad, it was just a stupid idea ... one of about 10 I have thought up in the last week. Grimm's pry too busy rolling in the cash anyways :D It actually is a damn good idea, but there are leaglity concerns and some other issues that could cause problems. I came up with it when I was running around on my hamster wheel!
Hey Grimm, my feeble mind didn't get what you meant in that PM you sent. You said you would reply in detail by e-mail but you don't have my e-mail that I know of If you do want to holler, ryan1978 at insightbb.com. Assuming it's a no, I understand your reasons so no reason to get to deep into technicalities
Don't worry Brad, it was just a stupid idea ... one of about 10 I have thought up in the last week. Grimm's pry too busy rolling in the cash anyways :D It actually is a damn good idea, but there are leaglity concerns and some other issues that could cause problems. I came up with it when I was running around on my hamster wheel!
Ryan
I meant to say private message. or email, just a lot going on right now.
Made $10-20 million in 2-3 years of working with Crescent on a scam. I call that a nightmare.
What has he done since? Oprano failed, everything he has touched failed. He made $ on his scam, and thats it. We should remove him from the tribe for lack of real business sense.
Damn, I wish I would fail so badly. $10-20 million. Geez. There are a LOT of things I do for $20 million.
"There is no excuse for deceiving children. And when, as must happen in conventional families, they find that their parents have lied, they lose confidence in them and feel justified in lying to them."
- Bertrand Russell
Our Sexual Ethics (1936)
and who is gonna break the news to "bella" that her daddy who calls himself a businessmam is just a sleazy pornographer?
will it be mommy, daddy, mother in law or Attorney General from Texas?
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
- Bertrand Russell
re: brad's
"Brad: "Serge is retired. He has more money in the bank than these guys who are still in business. It's fun for him. That was his home for a couple of years. Now he likes to come back and have fun with people.
"Serge is a very smart guy. Serge is brilliant. And he just likes to play with people. I have a lot of respect for Serge. People think that Serge and I aren't friends. That's the furthest thing from the truth. We're about to take a vacation together."
"
I knew about this a long time ago.
Interesting read though
What's really interesting is someone is willing to volunteer information - makes you wonder what other information he'll volunteer about affiliates of siccash.com, clients, and the such...?
QuickRichClick
Backed by the founders of CyberAge.com & UGAS.com.
What's really interesting is someone is willing to volunteer information - makes you wonder what other information he'll volunteer about affiliates of siccash.com, clients, and the such...?
I'd volunteer everything I know about Brad Shaw the sleazebag...but seems like nobody has interest in ordinary sleazeball pornographer, raising children in Texas...
What's really interesting is someone is willing to volunteer information - makes you wonder what other information he'll volunteer about affiliates of siccash.com, clients, and the such...?
That can relate to any program in general. Case n point Singup4cash. You dont think they spilled the beans on all their aff with the spam thingy to save some face?
Serge, you are an idiot. I do not even have a Canadian bank account, or any account out of the US. Keep dreaming you drunk! You are desperate, old shell of yourself. Sad really.
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