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  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    • Mar 2003
    • 30307

    #151


    Now back to the GFY Audience Programming.

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    • BradShaw
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      • Oct 2001
      • 7840

      #152
      Alien, Juicy is a good guy. You guys should chat and move on. There are too many idiot scammers out there to waste your time going back and forth with a good member of the tribe.
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      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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        • Mar 2003
        • 30307

        #153
        You might be right Brad and I am considering it.

        I never said he aint on the same team...
        I just do not like the way he pitches sometimes.
        Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-15-2005, 01:53 PM.

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        • BradShaw
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          • Oct 2001
          • 7840

          #154
          Serge, stop drinking please. Your liver is shot.

          You may also want to start those anal excercises.
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          • rml1608
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            • Sep 2004
            • 985

            #155
            Brad, you're right - I have no connections. All I have is a few friends (and they are dwindling) that remember me from those days who will still give me a helping hand just because they are those kind of people (Till I rag on them enuf anyways).

            Ever hear of the guy who starts at the bottom of the food chain and works his way up ? I'm at the bottom now I agree, and if all goes well hopefully I have an entry level position to get my feet planted back into the business. While working that job, I will be doing nothing but networking, socializing, and rebuilding those lost connections. If the entry level position doesn't pan out, I will go out about it a different way.

            Brad, trust me you are NOT the only one with any business smarts from back in the day, and many people who had more smarts than me and you cmbined dissapeared for a multitude of reasons. So don't think because you were a pioneer of the industry and have been here ever since steadily that it makes you any more intelligent than those people. What really insulted me was that someone such as yourself really thinks they are so much better than someone who slipped out of the industry due to poor LIFE decisions not business decisions.

            Brad, you got in at the right place, the right time, and were older than me so you had the partying out of your system... and were more apt to run a business at that point. That's the main difference. I was getting $40K a week dropped into my bank account after all expenses and partners were paid in full at the age of 19, I played my cards stupidly and made alot of mistakes.

            It sure as hell does not mean I don't have the business sense you do.
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            • Doctor Dre
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              • Jan 2001
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              #156
              Originally posted by mrthumbs
              And thats the only difference why he is mentioned and others are not.

              Only if Serge was still around to see this: he would be so proud.
              winetalk = serge
              Originally posted by rayadp05
              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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              • Doctor Dre
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                • Jan 2001
                • 51692

                #157
                Originally posted by AlienQ
                On another Note...

                Visa charges upwards of 30% annual fee's on credit cards sometimes fucken higher!
                Thats the biggest racket of all.

                But we all use em...
                and why do you think they do that ?
                Originally posted by rayadp05
                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                • BradShaw
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                  • Oct 2001
                  • 7840

                  #158
                  Ryan, my intelligence is average. But I will put my work ethic up against anyone. I made $, and wanted more. Most webmasters made $, and blew up, and their businessed died.

                  Like I said, you have very few opportunities in life to make big $. Some people have none, some people have just one.

                  You had a huge one, and you blew it. That is simply the reality of things. Many many webmasters like yourself. I just happen to be the exception.
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                  • jimmyf
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                    • Feb 2001
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by BradShaw
                    Gov't is slow, scammers now may have a few years. They are still playing catch up from years ago. 9-11 bought people some time.
                    this is very true, but when they come for you, they have you but fucking good..
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                    • Nicky
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 30071

                      #160
                      good ole Serge

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                      • buddyjuf

                        #161
                        good read

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                        • Joesho
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                          • Jan 2003
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                          #162
                          Originally posted by BradShaw
                          Ryan, my intelligence is average. But I will put my work ethic up against anyone. I made $, and wanted more. Most webmasters made $, and blew up, and their businessed died.

                          Like I said, you have very few opportunities in life to make big $. Some people have none, some people have just one.

                          You had a huge one, and you blew it. That is simply the reality of things. Many many webmasters like yourself. I just happen to be the exception.
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                          • codymc12
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                            • May 2003
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                            #163
                            I feel like I just entered a time capsule. Serge and Brad pissing - there's Ryan...

                            Very old 'Ynot' - with the exception that it's gotten much nastier.

                            Re: needing to have 'roots' to make money - I don't really agree. What's needed is:

                            Some capital
                            Good content
                            Knowledge on where to spend your capital to create traffic that converts.

                            The last is the hardest - but really, with those three, you could start from ground zero with no roots and make a living in this biz. While there are definately geniuses in this biz - it takes far less genius to make an average living than probably in any other biz out there. Selling sex is selling a product that always has demand.

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                            • grimmdaddy
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                              • Feb 2005
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                              #164
                              Originally posted by Anthony
                              Really?

                              I talked to him 10 minutes ago for dinner plans this week.

                              Seriously Brad, you need to find another hobby.
                              Yeah, gotta chime in here and call bullshit. there is zero fact to anything here.


                              And i read your interview here too. Its funny how i don't remember things the way you do;)

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                              • grimmdaddy
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                                • Feb 2005
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                                #165
                                Originally posted by BradShaw
                                Were you the one saying the same thing 7 years ago?

                                I speak the truth. You can blow smoke up peoples asses all day.

                                I am a brand, this has nothing to do with ES. As is, we are booked for months on installs.

                                I think your ego is running away with you dude.

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                                • grimmdaddy
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                                  • Feb 2005
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                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                  Oh, geez. We knew this was going to happen 4 years ago.

                                  http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/08/crescent.htm

                                  For Release: August 23, 2000

                                  Playgirl Web Site Faces FTC Charges

                                  Thousands of Consumers Illegally Billed for "Free Tours" Promoted by Sites

                                  The owners and operators of www.playgirl.com, www.highsociety.com and scores of other adult Web sites have been charged by the Federal Trade Commission with illegally billing thousands of consumers for services that were advertised as "free," and for billing other consumers who never visited the Web sites at all. The FTC and the New York Attorney General have filed suit in U.S. District Court seeking to halt the illegal billing practices and have asked the Court to freeze the defendants' assets, pending trial, to provide for consumer redress.

                                  New York City-based Crescent Publishing Group, Inc., its owner, Bruce Chew, and principal David Bernstein, are named as defendants in the federal court complaint detailing the charges, along with 64 affiliated corporations that operate the adult entertainment Web sites. According to the complaint, the "Free Tour Web Sites" generated income of $188 million between 1997 and October 1999 -- $141 million of which was generated in the first 10 months of 1999 alone.

                                  According to the complaint, the defendants operate scores of adult entertainment Web sites, promoting them as "free." The "Free Tour Web Sites" claim that consumers' credit card numbers are required solely to prove that the consumers are of legal age to view the adult material, and that the credit cards will not be billed. But thousands of consumers were charged recurring monthly membership fees ranging from $20 to $90, the complaint says. Consumers who tried to dispute the charges were met with a variety of barriers designed by the defendants to thwart their efforts. According to the complaint, the defendants use billing names different than the names of the Web sites, so consumers often had no idea who was billing them or why. Moreover, consumers often had difficulty the contacting defendants to get refunds from information provided to them on their billing statement.

                                  According to the joint FTC/ New York A.G. complaint, the defendants routinely change corporate billing names and merchant banks in an attempt to avoid the fraud detection systems of credit card organizations such as Visa U.S.A. When it realized what the defendants were doing, Visa U.S.A. disqualified them from using its credit card system. The defendants moved their merchant banking relationship to Guatemala, adopted several new merchant names, and continued to process credit card transactions.

                                  The FTC and the New York Attorney General allege that Crescent and its principals have violated the FTC Act and New York state law. They have asked the Court to halt the deceptive and unfair practices, to appoint a receiver to oversee the businesses and to freeze the defendants' assets pending trial to preserve them for consumer redress.

                                  The Commission vote to file the complaint was 5-0.

                                  The complaint was filed August 23, 2000 in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.

                                  Colin... take your facts to another board, there is no room here;)

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                                  • grimmdaddy
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                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 20

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by The Bootyologist
                                    isn't being married to brad punishment enough? do you really need to drag her name through the mud?

                                    talking shit about brad's wife is LAME
                                    Yeah, leave a man's family out of it. Its uncalled for.

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                                    • xclusive
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                                      • Apr 2004
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                                      #168
                                      Amazing the effect they have had on all of us

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                                      • grimmdaddy
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                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 20

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by BradShaw
                                        http://www.letterhead.com/profiles/serge/

                                        you have come a long way baby.

                                        If you are smart, someday you too might get there. ;)

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                                        • tony299
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #170
                                          he who is free of sin may cast the first stone ,thats all I have to say

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                                          • grimmdaddy
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                                            • Feb 2005
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                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by BradShaw
                                            I gotta run and send a wire to juicy, for his legal defense.

                                            don't get fleas...

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                                            • Steen2
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                                              • Feb 2004
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                                              #172
                                              Who is the guy he extorted for $1m?
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                                              • rml1608
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                                                #173
                                                Hey Grimm, my feeble mind didn't get what you meant in that PM you sent. You said you would reply in detail by e-mail but you don't have my e-mail that I know of If you do want to holler, ryan1978 at insightbb.com. Assuming it's a no, I understand your reasons so no reason to get to deep into technicalities

                                                Don't worry Brad, it was just a stupid idea ... one of about 10 I have thought up in the last week. Grimm's pry too busy rolling in the cash anyways :D It actually is a damn good idea, but there are leaglity concerns and some other issues that could cause problems. I came up with it when I was running around on my hamster wheel!

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                                                • BradShaw
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                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by grimmdaddy
                                                  I think your ego is running away with you dude.

                                                  I think you are starting to read message boards too much, to the point you believe what you read. This is the internet, and these are my sheep.

                                                  baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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                                                  • rml1608
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                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by grimmdaddy
                                                    Colin... take your facts to another board, there is no room here;)
                                                    What the hell is a board good for if there are only facts posted?

                                                    Come on now... We couldn't all get to 25,000 posts

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                                                    • grimmdaddy
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                                                      • Feb 2005
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                                                      #176
                                                      Originally posted by rml1608
                                                      Hey Grimm, my feeble mind didn't get what you meant in that PM you sent. You said you would reply in detail by e-mail but you don't have my e-mail that I know of If you do want to holler, ryan1978 at insightbb.com. Assuming it's a no, I understand your reasons so no reason to get to deep into technicalities

                                                      Don't worry Brad, it was just a stupid idea ... one of about 10 I have thought up in the last week. Grimm's pry too busy rolling in the cash anyways :D It actually is a damn good idea, but there are leaglity concerns and some other issues that could cause problems. I came up with it when I was running around on my hamster wheel!

                                                      Ryan


                                                      I meant to say private message. or email, just a lot going on right now.

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                                                      • grimmdaddy
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                                                        • Feb 2005
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                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                        I think you are starting to read message boards too much, to the point you believe what you read. This is the internet, and these are my sheep.

                                                        baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

                                                        i would certainly hope so. ;)

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                                                        • rml1608
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                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                          • 985

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by grimmdaddy
                                                          I meant to say private message. or email, just a lot going on right now.
                                                          NP/Rush ... Just wanted to make sure you didn't fire it off to an old e-mail addy of mine or anything ;)
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                                                          • spunkmaster
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                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 2052

                                                            #179
                                                            This thread is a good example that GFY post counts don't mean shit as
                                                            showing how long someone has been in this Biz !

                                                            There's some people posting here that were doing adult when most of the others
                                                            wern't even shaving yet

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                                                            • pxxx
                                                              First African GFY Member
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 12114

                                                              #180
                                                              Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                              aka winetalk

                                                              But his real name is Serge Birbrair and he lives in Boca. Been to his house, over the top modern furnishings.
                                                              With all that money, he should be "living".

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                                                              • Donny
                                                                As you wish...
                                                                • May 2002
                                                                • 13754

                                                                #181
                                                                Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                American dream? Maybe your dream, but not mine.

                                                                Made $10-20 million in 2-3 years of working with Crescent on a scam. I call that a nightmare.

                                                                What has he done since? Oprano failed, everything he has touched failed. He made $ on his scam, and thats it. We should remove him from the tribe for lack of real business sense.
                                                                Damn, I wish I would fail so badly. $10-20 million. Geez. There are a LOT of things I do for $20 million.

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                                                                  #182
                                                                  "There is no excuse for deceiving children. And when, as must happen in conventional families, they find that their parents have lied, they lose confidence in them and feel justified in lying to them."
                                                                  - Bertrand Russell
                                                                  Our Sexual Ethics (1936)



                                                                  and who is gonna break the news to "bella" that her daddy who calls himself a businessmam is just a sleazy pornographer?

                                                                  will it be mommy, daddy, mother in law or Attorney General from Texas?
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                                                                  • BradShaw
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                                                                    • Oct 2001
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                                                                    #183
                                                                    Serge, taking shot at my kid.

                                                                    Desperate.

                                                                    Get back to packing those boxes before the feds come a knocking.
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                                                                    • aeon
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                                                                      • Sep 2002
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                                                                      #184
                                                                      Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                      Just spoke to the guy who wrote the MSNBC article. He is planning on doing a follow up, I pointed him in the right boca direction.
                                                                      Fuckin' fat narc. You gonna send them the URL for gfy and adult.com as well?
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                                                                      • NoComments
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                                                                        #185
                                                                        and to wrap it off:

                                                                        "A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
                                                                        - Bertrand Russell

                                                                        re: brad's
                                                                        "Brad: "Serge is retired. He has more money in the bank than these guys who are still in business. It's fun for him. That was his home for a couple of years. Now he likes to come back and have fun with people.

                                                                        "Serge is a very smart guy. Serge is brilliant. And he just likes to play with people. I have a lot of respect for Serge. People think that Serge and I aren't friends. That's the furthest thing from the truth. We're about to take a vacation together."
                                                                        "

                                                                        after I told him to fuck off.

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                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                          Serge, taking shot at my kid.

                                                                          Desperate.

                                                                          Get back to packing those boxes before the feds come a knocking.
                                                                          I don't know your kid, but I'd like to pay for the shot of her face when she finds out that her daddy is a sleazeball pornographer...

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                                                                          • BradShaw
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                                                                            #187
                                                                            Warm that ass up for the slammer. No wine in jail.
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                                                                            • BradShaw
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                                                                              #188
                                                                              Serge, maybe you would like to be interviewed by the msnbc guy? Or for once in your life, you are at a loss for words?
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                                                                              • Juicy D. Links
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                                                                                • Apr 2001
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                                                                                #189
                                                                                I knew about this a long time ago.
                                                                                Interesting read though

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                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                  Warm that ass up for the slammer. No wine in jail.
                                                                                  tell folks how you use corporate funds to pay for your personal expenses..
                                                                                  IRS calls it conversion and tax evasion
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                                                                                  • BradShaw
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                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    I just went through an audit, turns out I overpaid by $23k.

                                                                                    I sleep very well at night. In fact, I am off to bed. Early am flight.
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                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                      Serge, maybe you would like to be interviewed by the msnbc guy? Or for once in your life, you are at a loss for words?
                                                                                      He should interview sleazy pornographers and how they intend to raise their children.
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                                                                                      • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Apr 2001
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                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        BTW if anybody writes a book , I want to be mentioned somewhere in it

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                                                                                        • aeon
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                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                                          I knew about this a long time ago.
                                                                                          Interesting read though
                                                                                          What's really interesting is someone is willing to volunteer information - makes you wonder what other information he'll volunteer about affiliates of siccash.com, clients, and the such...?
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                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                            I just went through an audit, turns out I overpaid by $23k.

                                                                                            I sleep very well at night. In fact, I am off to bed. Early am flight.
                                                                                            bullshit and hearsay..

                                                                                            and when you are gone,
                                                                                            we'll talk how you funnel money between USA and Canada
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                                                                                            • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
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                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                              You might be right Brad and I am considering it.

                                                                                              I never said he aint on the same team...
                                                                                              I just do not like the way he pitches sometimes.
                                                                                              Dude , I understand what you are saying but keep in mind not all these fake nicks are me....

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                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                Originally posted by aeon
                                                                                                What's really interesting is someone is willing to volunteer information - makes you wonder what other information he'll volunteer about affiliates of siccash.com, clients, and the such...?

                                                                                                I'd volunteer everything I know about Brad Shaw the sleazebag...but seems like nobody has interest in ordinary sleazeball pornographer, raising children in Texas...
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                                                                                                • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
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                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  Originally posted by aeon
                                                                                                  What's really interesting is someone is willing to volunteer information - makes you wonder what other information he'll volunteer about affiliates of siccash.com, clients, and the such...?
                                                                                                  That can relate to any program in general. Case n point Singup4cash. You dont think they spilled the beans on all their aff with the spam thingy to save some face?

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                                                                                                  • Phoenix
                                                                                                    BACON BACON BACON
                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    iceland as a last resort ;)
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                                                                                                    • BradShaw
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                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      Serge, you are an idiot. I do not even have a Canadian bank account, or any account out of the US. Keep dreaming you drunk! You are desperate, old shell of yourself. Sad really.
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