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  • clickclickclick
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2005
    • 1227
    #1

    Who do you respect more? A gallery submitter or a mailer?

    So what do you respect more?

    a gallery submitter or a mailer?
    a freesite maker or a black hat seo?
    a tgp/mgp owner or a cj/cj2 site owner?
    a honest sponsor or a "shady in your favor" sponsor?
    if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

    p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.
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    • SykkBoy2
      Jesus loves bacon
      • Feb 2001
      • 19969
      #2
      whoever is going to make me the most amount of money with the least amount of hassle...
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        • jt420
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2003
          • 2479
          #3
          honesty is the best policy.
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            • clickclickclick
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2005
              • 1227
              #4
              Originally posted by SykkBoy2
              whoever is going to make me the most amount of money with the least amount of hassle...
              ok, so you would install trojans/spyware/dialers, hijack signups and spam their mailbox if it was easy to do?
              if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

              p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                • cheapbulletproof
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 144
                  #5
                  a mailers
                  My sig was changed cause I don't know how to read the rules on this page

                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html

                  You can contact me about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

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                    • polish_aristocrat
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 40377
                      #6
                      if someone makes $15k by submitting and the other makes also $15k by mailing, I respect the submitter more

                      but more than the submitter, I would respect the tgp owner

                      and more than the TGP owner, I would respect a guy who makes that amount of money with SEO
                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                        • rollinOn20s
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 2006
                          #7
                          Wow, i generally thought people were judged on the personality and character, rather than, their job title. Attitude like this man, YOU are going nowhere fast.
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                            • clickclickclick
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1227
                              #8
                              Originally posted by cheapbulletproof
                              a mailers
                              i understand why and i respect that in your case.

                              There is money to be made in adult, and the more unethical you get, the more you can potentially make.

                              I ask this because i respect the guys who does this shit true and honest.
                              if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                              p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                • Pornwolf
                                  Drunk and Unruly
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 22712
                                  #9
                                  So which one puts the least free porn on the interweb? That's the one.
                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                  Webair, bitches.

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                                    • smack
                                      Push Porn Like Weight.
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 10652
                                      #10
                                      i repsect who ever earns it. i don't care who they are, or what they do for a living. it's just about what kind of person they are.
                                      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                        • clickclickclick
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 1227
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by rollinOn20s
                                          Wow, i generally thought people were judged on the personality and character, rather than, their job title. Attitude like this man, YOU are going nowhere fast.
                                          This is a business. You are judge by the skills you bring to the table. If you deal with people based on personality and character only, then good luck on your ventures.
                                          if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                                          p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                            • clickclickclick
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2005
                                              • 1227
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                              if someone makes $15k by submitting and the other makes also $15k by mailing, I respect the submitter more

                                              but more than the submitter, I would respect the tgp owner

                                              and more than the TGP owner, I would respect a guy who makes that amount of money with SEO
                                              seo aint hard.. but it borders ethics depending what you do.
                                              so i agree with you.
                                              if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                                              p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 40377
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by clickclickclick
                                                  seo aint hard.. .
                                                  not sure about that

                                                  making a gallery ( or buying templates if you dont have the designer skills ) is easy and cheap, geting content is easy, submitting is easy etc, if your gallery is good, buying spots is easy

                                                  but with SEO, well, most people dont have any clue where to start and they dont get any SE traffic on their own
                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                    • rollinOn20s
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                      • 2006
                                                      #14
                                                      [QUOTE=clickclickclick]This is a business. You are judge by the skills you bring to the table. If you deal with people based on personality and character only, then good luck on your ventures.[/QUOTE

                                                      You took this comment the wrong way. You made it sound like you dont care about trust or honesty, only a 'title' of someone. Thats all dude!
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                                                        • clickclickclick
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                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                          • 1227
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                          not sure about that

                                                          making a gallery ( or buying templates if you dont have the designer skills ) is easy and cheap, geting content is easy, submitting is easy etc, if your gallery is good, buying spots is easy

                                                          but with SEO, well, most people dont have any clue where to start and they dont get any SE traffic on their own
                                                          well i say its easy because u can always re-engineer top listings.
                                                          besides the established sites with good backlinks, its not hard getting listed on a term that is realistic. And seo isnt just free listings, its paid as well. Good seo's will do both in parrallel to adjust short and long term positioning.
                                                          if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                                                          p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                                            • clickclickclick
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                              • 1227
                                                              #16
                                                              [QUOTE=rollinOn20s]
                                                              Originally posted by clickclickclick
                                                              This is a business. You are judge by the skills you bring to the table. If you deal with people based on personality and character only, then good luck on your ventures.[/QUOTE

                                                              You took this comment the wrong way. You made it sound like you dont care about trust or honesty, only a 'title' of someone. Thats all dude!
                                                              Im sorry then. I wasnt implying title but by the skillset they bring.
                                                              if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                                                              p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                                                • groark
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                  • 1966
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I respect the one who knows how to pull the most money out of things..

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                                                                    • Rui
                                                                      web
                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                      • 9533
                                                                      #18
                                                                      The gallery submitter, which is making his money in a honest way without pissing lots of people, creating extra expenses,etc...

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                                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 32492
                                                                          #19
                                                                          gallery submitter.

                                                                          Duke

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                                                                            • dunefield
                                                                              www.barely18movies.com
                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 10920
                                                                              #20
                                                                              goats deserve more respect

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                                                                                  • 6158
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Pornwolf
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                                                                                    • Pornwolf
                                                                                      Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 22712
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by dunefield
                                                                                      goats deserve more respect

                                                                                      Yes, goats, definitely.
                                                                                      I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                                      Webair, bitches.

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                                                                                        • Rorschach
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 5579
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I respect the person who makes the most money with the least amount of work, by working smarter not harder... and by not ripping off other webmasters... being a webmaster is kind of like being in a theives' guild.

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                                                                                            • Manansala
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                                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                                              • 551
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I respect the man I see in the mirror whatever he's doing.
                                                                                              EDIT: Yes! Goats! http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=431692
                                                                                              Last edited by Manansala; 02-14-2005, 01:04 PM.
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                                                                                                • Wizzo
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                                                                                                  #25
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                                                                                                    • clickclickclick
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                                                      • 1227
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      goats. haha.
                                                                                                      if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                                                                                                      p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                                                                                        • hydro
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                                                                          • 4216
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I respect anyone who works for thier money and shows respect back. I doesnt matter to me if they are new the industry and learning how to build galleries or if thier out there coding ie exploits and infecting millions with spyware. Hustlers respect hustlin

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                                                                                                            • Young
                                                                                                              Bland for life
                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                              • 10468
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by rollinOn20s
                                                                                                              Wow, i generally thought people were judged on the personality and character, rather than, their job title. Attitude like this man, YOU are going nowhere fast.
                                                                                                              weird theory...doesn't apply to all jobs.

                                                                                                              a gallery submitter or a mailer? gallery submitter
                                                                                                              a freesite maker or a black hat seo? toss-up
                                                                                                              a tgp/mgp owner or a cj/cj2 site owner? tgp/mgp
                                                                                                              a honest sponsor or a "shady in your favor" sponsor? honest sponsor... what shady sponsor is going to be in your favor??? They'd just do the shadyness to benefit themselves. Cut the middle man out.
                                                                                                              ★★★

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                                                                                                                • Theo
                                                                                                                  HAL 9000
                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                  • 34515
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  shady blackhat mailer of course

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                                                                                                                    • SykkBoy2
                                                                                                                      Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                      • 19969
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by clickclickclick
                                                                                                                      ok, so you would install trojans/spyware/dialers, hijack signups and spam their mailbox if it was easy to do?
                                                                                                                      it's all about risk vs. reward
                                                                                                                      I don't see installing trojans as worth the reward...

                                                                                                                      let's put it this way

                                                                                                                      would you rather have a mailer sending you 100 sales per day with only a handful of complaints or a gallery submitter who sends you 10 (if that) per day and always needs free content, bandwidth, hosting, resources, etc.?

                                                                                                                      let's say it's even, let's say you have a poor mailer who only gets you 10 sales per day and 3-4 complaints (believe me, I run true double opt-in mailers and I still get my share of odd complaints) or the gallery guy who sends you 10 salews per day and you now have to provide them more content, hosting and generally more handholding? The mailer, you give them the codes and creatives an they are off and running...the submitter needs all of these extra resources (and contributes to even more free porn on the Internet)?

                                                                                                                      now, let's say you are a business owner and the submitter(s) need more assistance and you now have to hire another program rep (or 2 or 3) and that costs you more money vs. a part-time rep who has to deal with the mailers (make sure they are running clean and within your TOS)...which path do you take?

                                                                                                                      remember, not all mailers are blanket spammers...

                                                                                                                      I think everyone should have their own email collectors on everything they build and start legally mailing their own lists...over time they'll see more money (if they do it right) than just submitting and praying they get accepted.
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                                                                                                                        • clickclickclick
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                          • 1227
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I agree that in the end, signups count and im certain that many mailers can do circles around gallery submitters. (excluding paid spots)

                                                                                                                          I would think instinctively that since mailers/blackhat seo's make more signups, that they are more respected then gallery submitters.

                                                                                                                          But that being said, a spyware program with the capabilities to go virial can do circles around mailers....

                                                                                                                          I know enough about what goes on to understand who does what and sometimes what methodologies they use to get their results. im just not sure that they can be respected.
                                                                                                                          if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                                                                                                                          p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                                                                                                            • emthree
                                                                                                                              Dialer Kingpin
                                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                              • 10816
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by hydro
                                                                                                                              I respect anyone who works for thier money and shows respect back. I doesnt matter to me if they are new the industry and learning how to build galleries or if thier out there coding ie exploits and infecting millions with spyware. Hustlers respect hustlin
                                                                                                                              preach on

                                                                                                                              I respect guys that hold their own weight, and pave their own roads. The one thing I hate the most, is copycats and copycat methods

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                                                                                                                                • clickclickclick
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 1227
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by emthree
                                                                                                                                  preach on

                                                                                                                                  I respect guys that hold their own weight, and pave their own roads. The one thing I hate the most, is copycats and copycat methods
                                                                                                                                  we all started from some sort of example, So i dont understand your copycat's ideologies. I mean, who hasnt copied a methodology, products, or services in this industry?
                                                                                                                                  if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                                                                                                                                  p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                                                                                                                    • hydro
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 4216
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by clickclickclick
                                                                                                                                      we all started from some sort of example, So i dont understand your copycat's ideologies. I mean, who hasnt copied a methodology, products, or services in this industry?
                                                                                                                                      i think he's talking about the cookie cutter sites, gallery thieves, and people who take content then go resell it.

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                                                                                                                                        • digifan
                                                                                                                                          The Profiler
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 14618
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                                                                                          gallery submitter.

                                                                                                                                          Duke
                                                                                                                                          [email protected]
                                                                                                                                          Webair Rocks

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                                                                                                                                            • Der Schleicher
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                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                              • 1189
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              as long as there is mutual gain for both parties.
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                                                                                                                                                • Corleone
                                                                                                                                                  C.R.E.A.M
                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 15262
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  I respect all that are honest and hard working

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                                                                                                                                                    • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                      :glugglug
                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 26118
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by clickclickclick
                                                                                                                                                      So what do you respect more?

                                                                                                                                                      a gallery submitter or a mailer?
                                                                                                                                                      a freesite maker or a black hat seo?
                                                                                                                                                      a tgp/mgp owner or a cj/cj2 site owner?
                                                                                                                                                      a honest sponsor or a "shady in your favor" sponsor?
                                                                                                                                                      All and none of the above. I respect those who accomplish much and still retain humility.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Rui
                                                                                                                                                          web
                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 9533
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                          All and none of the above. I respect those who accomplish much and still retain humility.
                                                                                                                                                          Thats pretty hard to find, specialy in this industry

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                                                                                                                                                            • Basic_man
                                                                                                                                                              Programming King Pin
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 27360
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                                                                                                              whoever is going to make me the most amount of money with the least amount of hassle...
                                                                                                                                                              Haha, that's my awnser too :D
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                                                                                                                                                                • JFPdude
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 4027
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Ok I have had enough coffee for this one ...

                                                                                                                                                                  Once I'm done I will be flamed to death but here goes:

                                                                                                                                                                  Fuck the freeloaders.

                                                                                                                                                                  As stated this is business.

                                                                                                                                                                  In all other businesses there is no hand holding, No freebies unless you produce a certain amount of sales.

                                                                                                                                                                  Fuck the free hosting.
                                                                                                                                                                  Charge the affiliates for a media package that includes the content. In fact do what every other affiliate program does ... charge the affiliate to become an affiliate.

                                                                                                                                                                  This bullshit of handing everything out because it may produce a sale is just that bullshit.

                                                                                                                                                                  I have never asked a sponsor to pay for my domains or my hosting.
                                                                                                                                                                  Some of my sponsors offer it and I refuse.

                                                                                                                                                                  Content yes I have asked for that. But know what I'm willing to eat my own words. I'd be willing to pay for a media kit just like I would be expected to in any other sales affiliate position.

                                                                                                                                                                  Ask the Avon lady where she gets her sales kit from and how much it costs. Just like amway, fuller brush, etc etc etc

                                                                                                                                                                  The sponsors have gotten to soft trying to allow these balloonheads to stay in business and it's filling up the net with so much bullshit it's crazy.

                                                                                                                                                                  We have fucked ourselves as an industry trying to give affiliates what they want. Visa has us cut back to 1%. How much more can we endure?

                                                                                                                                                                  I know the porn industry will always be here and I want to be a part of it but lets start running it like a business not like a fraking freak show.


                                                                                                                                                                  Business = Ethics Most of the clowns here couldn't grasp the idea of real ethics.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • JFPdude
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 4027
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      wow one little post from me and I kill the thread huh?

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                                                                                                                                                                        • gxer
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 846
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          a gallery submitter
                                                                                                                                                                          a freesite maker
                                                                                                                                                                          a tgp/mgp owner
                                                                                                                                                                          a honest sponsor

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Rui
                                                                                                                                                                              web
                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 9533
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by JFPdude
                                                                                                                                                                              Ok I have had enough coffee for this one ...

                                                                                                                                                                              Once I'm done I will be flamed to death but here goes:

                                                                                                                                                                              Fuck the freeloaders.

                                                                                                                                                                              As stated this is business.

                                                                                                                                                                              In all other businesses there is no hand holding, No freebies unless you produce a certain amount of sales.

                                                                                                                                                                              Fuck the free hosting.
                                                                                                                                                                              Charge the affiliates for a media package that includes the content. In fact do what every other affiliate program does ... charge the affiliate to become an affiliate.

                                                                                                                                                                              This bullshit of handing everything out because it may produce a sale is just that bullshit.

                                                                                                                                                                              I have never asked a sponsor to pay for my domains or my hosting.
                                                                                                                                                                              Some of my sponsors offer it and I refuse.

                                                                                                                                                                              Content yes I have asked for that. But know what I'm willing to eat my own words. I'd be willing to pay for a media kit just like I would be expected to in any other sales affiliate position.

                                                                                                                                                                              Ask the Avon lady where she gets her sales kit from and how much it costs. Just like amway, fuller brush, etc etc etc

                                                                                                                                                                              The sponsors have gotten to soft trying to allow these balloonheads to stay in business and it's filling up the net with so much bullshit it's crazy.

                                                                                                                                                                              We have fucked ourselves as an industry trying to give affiliates what they want. Visa has us cut back to 1%. How much more can we endure?

                                                                                                                                                                              I know the porn industry will always be here and I want to be a part of it but lets start running it like a business not like a fraking freak show.


                                                                                                                                                                              Business = Ethics Most of the clowns here couldn't grasp the idea of real ethics.
                                                                                                                                                                              Freehosting, FreeHostedGallerys, Free Domain's,etc.. are bad IMHO to this industry, but most people look at this in the short term so it seems

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Dalai lama
                                                                                                                                                                                  Strength and Honor
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 16540
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  depends on the person behind the site or project

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • xlogger
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 9507
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      1] a gallery submitter or a mailer?
                                                                                                                                                                                      2] a freesite maker or a black hat seo?
                                                                                                                                                                                      3] a tgp/mgp owner or a cj/cj2 site owner?
                                                                                                                                                                                      4] a honest sponsor or a "shady in your favor" sponsor?
                                                                                                                                                                                      • mailer
                                                                                                                                                                                      • black hat seo
                                                                                                                                                                                      • tgp/mgp
                                                                                                                                                                                      • shady in your favor

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Lykos
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 31027
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyone who makes money and lives from that what he made

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • detoxed
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 17798
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Why would I respect any of them? I dont go around respecting random people for no reason, regardless of their job description.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • gdog
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Honesty is the best policy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I respect those who run an honest business and do not put all of us at risk each day by doing shady shit. I don't want to move out of the US just so I can stay in adult. Its the shady fuckers that are making it hard for honest guys to make a living.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • El Duderino
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Why would I respect any of them? I dont go around respecting random people for no reason, regardless of their job description.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Well said.


                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't respect my mailman more than my paperboy.

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