Not true, many of the dialer-based sites will redirect N.American traffic to a credit card option ... some also allow us N.Americans to use the dialer, though I know it's not a popular payment option here, yet.
yet? you think someday dialers in N.America will be a popular payment option?
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.
hehe my stats says otherwise
Modem/Phone billing was always popular amongst the US surfers, just never gained enough momentum in the webmaster community
you are entitled to this opinion, but then again, you have No Credit Card in your sig
I'm speaking from my experience and giving my observation based on MY results.
I've had an mtree account since the early days, when the previous dialer was still up and running. I'm unbiased when it comes to making money, so take it for what it is.
If you're doing good with mtree, well good for you
redirecting foreign traffic straight to a third party dialer and not crediting the webmaster certainly sucks... i don't think anyone would object to a dialer option on the join page though.
We were doing "dialers" before that term got spread across the net and also remember dealing with what is now NCC when they were thinking about entering the dialer biz.
Dialers made one hell of a lot of money in earlier years and even I made a good few million out of them at that time. Another friend made loads more.. around $12m in 12 months, tho a large proportion of that was from audiotext lines - phone sex for those with nada clue :-)
Since then, scammers, con artists, wannabee dialer dealers, fraudulent phone/audiotext companies and who knows what other scum ripped the public off to a degree that forced government regulatory bodies to impose restrictions for consumer protection. In the process, this screwed the dialer market and the main phone companies developed an anti.
The same scammers and con artists also ripped loads of webmasters off and never paid.
If any "dialer dealer" comes up with a product and wants to deal - I'd want to know who the fuck he or she is, where they bank, and what credibility they have - then check the dialer for a load of viruses and bullshit :-)
We were doing "dialers" before that term got spread across the net and also remember dealing with what is now NCC when they were thinking about entering the dialer biz.
Dialers made one hell of a lot of money in earlier years and even I made a good few million out of them at that time. Another friend made loads more.. around $12m in 12 months, tho a large proportion of that was from audiotext lines - phone sex for those with nada clue :-)
Since then, scammers, con artists, wannabee dialer dealers, fraudulent phone/audiotext companies and who knows what other scum ripped the public off to a degree that forced government regulatory bodies to impose restrictions for consumer protection. In the process, this screwed the dialer market and the main phone companies developed an anti.
The same scammers and con artists also ripped loads of webmasters off and never paid.
If any "dialer dealer" comes up with a product and wants to deal - I'd want to know who the fuck he or she is, where they bank, and what credibility they have - then check the dialer for a load of viruses and bullshit :-)
Exactly, i'm tempted to say that the dialer's market is one of the most volatile (sp) ones in this industry...seriously
So many people (webmasters & surfers) got burned by this...
Simple question...
Why bill with dialers in places like Germany,where Direct debit is the main payment option? With Direct Debit you can have recurring billing.
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We have been offering a dialer program for years. Visit www.activenet.com and signup. Not only do we offer dialers, we also have SMS billing included in the program. There is always a % of your surfers that will not take out a Credit Card and offering these surfers either a dialer or SMS billing option is a smart choice.
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