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@@@@@@@Summary of Drama Between Myself And The Loose Cannon Joesho.
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Juicy, you have made your decision, leave it at that. If they want a lawsuit, you should welcome it and even suggest if they want "reality" take it to one of the TV judge showsOriginally posted by Juicy D. LinksJoe is a loose cannon and there is more to him than you know. Things i morally cannot be a part off.
There is no punitive damages in a case like this, so it is only actual losses which nobody is going to prove and if even if they did it costs them more than the verdict to get it. No need to extend your neck beyond that publicly.
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you were right but you still could have backed out before all of the graphics were done.Comment
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooOriginally posted by mardigrasJuicy, you have made your decision, leave it at that. If they want a lawsuit, you should welcome it and even suggest if they want "reality" take it to one of the TV judge shows
this board can't handle 500 new surfers anymore
I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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So how much graphic artist time and final cost are we talking here? This will be the likely only collectable damages, with a good lawyer.Originally posted by BVFyou were right but you still could have backed out before all of the graphics were done..Comment
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I will only say this , ( as I can not sdiscuss the merrits of the case )
Juicy if you now or at anytime in your life think you have ANY dirt on me spill it here
but since you are only using inuendo all should be aware of that fact.
So fans of juicy, ask him to prove to you his words of anything dirty about me, and make him do so publicaly if there is any merit to it, or you should believe the actions and not the words.
also any fans of Juicy ask youself who actually brought this to the board? did I start the threads? or did Juicy? did any of you ever see me threaten Juicy in any way ( or was it the other way around?) Who is acting like a loose cannon?Got any domains to sell?
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To be honest with you all it's realy not any of are business, Juicy was going to do something with him but no papers were signed and he changed his mind. That's it. I undersand that people are upset but it's Juicy's right to change his mind.
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Originally posted by Juicy D. LinksI cant associate myself with loose cannons , after deep thought it would not be beneficial to myself or my name. As far as them being upset....i really could care less.....if you knew his past he had it coming...
I don't know you, but i have been reading your numerious post about this situation in the last 24 hours. Joesho has what like 5,000 plus post here and you have 50K+ post here so it is safe to say you are here 24/7 and no post gets past you. After reading all 5K+ of his post you couldn't tell what type of person he was ? You say...
" if you knew his past he had it coming.. " Well if *YOU* knew his past why would you agree to do it in the first place. All you state is loose cannon, loose cannon. You couldn't tell that from the 5K+ plus post he made here?
You guys talk about signed contracts, which is something they should have had, but what ever happened to a person's word ? I mean come on you gave them your word that you would do it, and at the last second you back out because you say joesho was a "loose cannon" ? If something a lot worse happened then it's your option to bail, but you don't even give them a reason. You claim to be worried about your brande but if you want to do business with credible people here I think bailing on a project last minute and then stating it was because one of the guys involved was a "loose cannon", like you didnt already know, well IMO that hurts you brande more then anything else.
Why not try to work it out with them like a professional ? Why not ask to have him removed if he was the problem, or discuss your concerns with them. Seems shitty and egotisitcal to contact them and say, oh btw, i am not going to do it, and my reason is, well i decided not to do it... nice brande you building foryourself...ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I will only say this , ( as I can not sdiscuss the merrits of the case )Originally posted by JoeshoI will only say this , ( as I can not sdiscuss the merrits of the case )
Juicy if you now or at anytime in your life think you have ANY dirt on me spill it here
but since you are only using inuendo all should be aware of that fact.
So fans of juicy, ask him to prove to you his words of anything dirty about me, and make him do so publicaly if there is any merit to it, or you should believe the actions and not the words.
also any fans of Juicy ask youself who actually brought this to the board? did I start the threads? or did Juicy? did any of you ever see me threaten Juicy in any way ( or was it the other way around?) Who is acting like a loose cannon?
Juicy if you now or at anytime in your life think you have ANY dirt on me spill it here
but since you are only using inuendo all should be aware of that fact.
So fans of juicy, ask him to prove to you his words of anything dirty about me, and make him do so publicaly if there is any merit to it, or you should believe the actions and not the words.
also any fans of Juicy ask youself who actually brought this to the board? did I start the threads? or did Juicy? did any of you ever see me threaten Juicy in any way ( or was it the other way around?) Who is acting like a loose cannon?Got any domains to sell?
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Good for you for sticking to your beliefs and protecting what you have worked hard for in this business...Originally posted by Juicy D. LinksIll make it short n sweet.
Few weeks ago I was approched to do the fucking fired site. K i aint stupid I know why they did this... Now after a long talk with few people and seeing Joesho's antics the last few weeks I made a decision that for my own "brand" and such it would not be wise both business and in general to even be associated with anything Joesmo touches.
Reason being that loose cannons tend to cause harm and bring bad press to anything they are involved in. No contracts were signed. I nicely and in professional manner said...
Hey JizBiz , I have some bad news for ya. I really cannot be part of the fuckin fired site and such any longer , i would appreciate it you would remove my face and any association with me to the site at your earliest convenience.
His response
Why are you pulling out at the last minute Juicy, everything is inplace due to your willingness to do this initially. The graphics have all been done which was no small job and the designer needs paying for this, the text and the site graphics/banners all need to be redone now because you decide a couple hrs after release that you arent interested?
My response:
Unfortunately I cant involve myself in this site any longer
His Response:
Why would you pull out now when such time, effort and energy (almost 3 weeks) has gone into this, and you were 100% involved and behind it all, if you had concerns you should have said something before all this was even considered, let alone put to page. Do you have any idea of how this looks?
How unprofessional this looks, not just from your end but our end as well, due to you pulling out, we need a reason as to why you did this.
Do we atleast get a reason?
My response:
As i said unfortunately i cant be part of it any longer my name cant be associated with this.
His response:
I will pass on your remarks to my partners and associates.
Then my response:
no problem , just make sure we get this handled of promptly and in a professional fashion. Have a good weekend
K then the loose cannon realized that his site would obviusly fail and decided to get all worked up. Now they are threatning me with a lawsuit which I am very eager to get served with.
So Bottom line here is ????
Program Owners , Sponsors , Webmasters do you really want to associate yourself with a loose cannon like Joesmo?
-Juicy
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Considering the sheer volume of daily posts this board gets, it's foolish to assume that anyone could see every single thing going on.Originally posted by will76I don't know you, but i have been reading your numerious post about this situation in the last 24 hours. Joesho has what like 5,000 plus post here and you have 50K+ post here so it is safe to say you are here 24/7 and no post gets past you. After reading all 5K+ of his post you couldn't tell what type of person he was ? You say...SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Maybe it's his right, but it sucks for the people who paid good hard earned money to make the site and all the ad material. A man is supposed to be as good as his word. Anyone who has been on this board for any length of time, knows Joesho is a loud mouth....post count doesn't matter at this point.Originally posted by TurboAngelTo be honest with you all it's realy not any of are business, Juicy was going to do something with him but no papers were signed and he changed his mind. That's it. I undersand that people are upset but it's Juicy's right to change his mind.

Juicy should be responsible for part of the money for designing the site and ad materials AND the cost of the redseign that HE wants, to remove his likeness.
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Originally posted by Mike OkitchConsidering the sheer volume of daily posts this board gets, it's foolish to assume that anyone could see every single thing going on.
Every post, sure no one can see every post. But come on, someone that has 50,000 + post must be reading an aweful lot of threads and I am sure he has seen enough of joesho's 9,000 post to have an idea if he is a "loose cannon" or not...ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Here's a novel idea. If you are sooo concerned with your "brande" why not do a little homework on the people you are partnering with before you agree to do the project ?????ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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The number of posts doesn't say jack about the number of threads one person reads.Originally posted by will76Every post, sure no one can see every post. But come on, someone that has 50,000 + post must be reading an aweful lot of threads and I am sure he has seen enough of joesho's 9,000 post to have an idea if he is a "loose cannon" or not...
There are people with no posts that read a lot and people with many that read next to none.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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It's dissapointing for Joesho that Juicy pulled out, that's perfectly understandable.Originally posted by will76Here's a novel idea. If you are sooo concerned with your "brande" why not do a little homework on the people you are partnering with before you agree to do the project ?????
It's also perfectly understandable that Juicy pulls out for reason that are no one's business but his. Research or not, brand or not, it's his damn business.
Here's another novel idea. Leave Juicy do what he sees fit. He's a grown man and quite capable of handling himself.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Not sure why you can't see the logic here. All i am saying is that someone who has made 50,000+ post has to have read a hell of a lot of threads, unless he covers his eyes and enters threads randomly, post, and then doesn't read what people say when they reply to him. Could someone with less post count have read more, sure they could, but thats not my point.Originally posted by Mike OkitchThe number of posts doesn't say jack about the number of threads one person reads.
There are people with no posts that read a lot and people with many that read next to none.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by Mike OkitchIt's dissapointing for Joesho that Juicy pulled out, that's perfectly understandable.
It's also perfectly understandable that Juicy pulls out for reason that are no one's business but his. Research or not, brand or not, it's his damn business.
Here's another novel idea. Leave Juicy do what he sees fit. He's a grown man and quite capable of handling himself.
By all means, I woundn't want to stop the "post about bullshit marathon" thats going on here. If thats the way they conduct business, thats their problem, I just wish they would consolidate threads. Hard to cut through the bullshit around here when 9 out of 10 post are Alien this, headless that, juicy this, can't you guys start one bullshit haters thread ?ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Juicy, my question for you is....why did you enter any kind of business deal with anyone on Oprano connected with Joe? They are scumbags. Listen to Brad. He knows what Nick, Gonzo, and Joe are like. They have no scrupples. They lie and cheat and they don't care if innocent people get hurt.
If you scrape the bottom of any barrel, you will find their dirty deeds.
They (Oprano Family) want traffic so much that they will start bullshit threads in a second to get attention. After all, the biggest scammer of all is/was Serge, and he gave Oprano to those who would follow in his rotten footsteps.
They sue and back up their cases with more lies. Juicy, I thought you had more brains than to get involved on any level with the likes of them.
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