A Federal Judge Dismisses an Obscenity Prosecution on Privacy Grounds:

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Xenophage
    Registered User
    • Oct 2001
    • 12122

    #1

    A Federal Judge Dismisses an Obscenity Prosecution on Privacy Grounds:

    http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hilden/20050131.html

    man this is an awesome read !

    check out these parts

    Precluded from citing any longstanding moral interest, the government in Extreme Associates put forward another putative state interest in an attempt to justify charging the defendants with violations of the criminal obscenity laws: An interest in protecting children, and unconsenting adults, from seeing such material.

    But Judge Lancaster did not find this interest convincing. He pointed out that the website already protected children and unconsenting adults by erecting a number of gates: To buy a film, the purchaser had to use a credit card, purchase a membership, and receive and use a password.

    And in any event, Judge Lancaster noted, even if the criminal law of obscenity marginally did serve these interests, it was far too blunt an instrument to do so constitutionally. The Supreme Court has made clear that adults should not lose rights to view material just because a "determined minor" can figure out a way to access that material, too.

    This second ruling by Judge Lancaster was also very convincing. Especially since civil penalties are an option, and the site does use a credit-card requirement to screen out most minors, it seems grossly excessive for the defendants to face jail sentences of up to five years under the law. When it comes to the First Amendment, especially, the punishment must fit the offense far better than this.

    In addition, the Supreme Court has long held that adults cannot, in effect, be sent back to the nursery when it comes to First Amendment rights: Just as a few industrious sixteen-year-olds are doubtless going to sneak pornographic magazines from behind the cash register, so too will they figure out a way to get a credit card and download pornographic films. We may want to take measures to stop them, but such measures should not include treating all adults accessing a give site like sixteen-year-olds, in the fear that a few sixteen-year-olds will masquerade as adults and gain access to the site.
  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
    best designer on GFY
    • Mar 2003
    • 30307

    #2
    Yup indeed...

    Comment

    • Fletch XXX
      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
      • Jan 2002
      • 60840

      #3
      nice one

      Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site?

      Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

      Comment

      • xanx
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2002
        • 3711

        #4
        very nice !

        Comment

        • Project-Shadow
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2003
          • 7340

          #5
          That's a step in the right direction for sure.

          Comment

          • Xenophage
            Registered User
            • Oct 2001
            • 12122

            #6
            yes this has been a huge win for our industry... but this article sheds more light on it

            Comment

            • Major (Tom)
              So Fucking Banned
              • Nov 2003
              • 32492

              #7
              God Speed Rob Black. God Speed.

              Duke

              Comment

              • jimmyf
                OU812
                • Feb 2001
                • 12651

                #8
                that's a very good read.

                Thanks
                Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
                Solar Cash Paysite Plugin
                Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

                Comment

                • JFK
                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 67369

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                  yes this has been a huge win for our industry... but this article sheds more light on it
                  thanks for posting that

                  FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX
                  For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

                  Comment

                  • Cassie
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 3139

                    #10
                    thanks for posting that. definitely a step up the ladder.
                    ICQ: 309756847
                    ]

                    Comment

                    • tungsten
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 10579

                      #11
                      thanks for the informative read
                      • VOYEUR /HOMEMADE, HENTAI / CARTOON, Reality, Amateur, Shemale, Hardcore, Cuckold, Celebrity, Retro/Vintage, ect...ALL OUR SITES >>
                      • Unbelievable Ratio | High % of Rebills | Bi-Monthly Payments (also to E-Passporte)
                      • Ton's of EXCLUSIVE Free content & FHG's |=> GREAT REVENUE $$$ GUARANTEED!

                      Comment

                      • tASSy
                        Spread The Pink!
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 8229

                        #12
                        very interesting indeed, thanks for posting it here

                        tassy*PINK
                        * ICQ ~ 318*097*066 *


                        Comment

                        • swami
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1989

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tungsten
                          thanks for the informative read
                          Ditto.
                          It almost restores my faith in what makes the USA a great country.The First Amendment is the cornerstone of what made America the richest country in the world and these false prophets deciding whats good and evil need to fuck off!

                          Comment

                          • $5 submissions
                            I help you SUCCEED
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 32189

                            #14
                            Interesting how this plays out with rulings from more conservative appeals circuits. Hopefully the next court level--appellate court--approves of this reasoning. This will set the stage for Supreme Court review (since they normally hate contrasting schools of thought among the differing circuits).

                            Comment

                            • pornguy
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 62910

                              #15
                              Thanks for posting that Lars.

                              Looks like a small on for us.
                              PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic

                              AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online!
                              TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME!

                              Comment

                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #16
                                Bravo Lets send Judge Lancaster a big fruit basket for Christmas

                                Comment

                                • Xenophage
                                  Registered User
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 12122

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                  Interesting how this plays out with rulings from more conservative appeals circuits. Hopefully the next court level--appellate court--approves of this reasoning. This will set the stage for Supreme Court review (since they normally hate contrasting schools of thought among the differing circuits).

                                  I dont think it goes to any other level I think Black won dont think the government can apeal its case.

                                  Comment

                                  • slipkid
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 791

                                    #18
                                    Good stuff. Avoid the extremes, nice lesson. Good news!


                                    Tons of porn sites
                                    Sell Adult products on your sites

                                    Comment

                                    • smack
                                      Push Porn Like Weight.
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 10652

                                      #19
                                      excellent news. finally someone has the sense to think before they legislate.
                                      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

                                      Comment

                                      • titmowse
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 5320

                                        #20
                                        I like that judge.
                                        I still love everybody

                                        Comment

                                        • Muff
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 1782

                                          #21
                                          A great precedence for any such cases that may come up.

                                          Comment

                                          • baddog
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                            I dont think it goes to any other level I think Black won dont think the government can apeal its case.
                                            They could take it to the Supreme Court . . . but I doubt they would.

                                            Comment

                                            • baddog
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 107089

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                              But Judge Lancaster did not find this interest convincing. He pointed out that the website already protected children and unconsenting adults by erecting a number of gates: To buy a film, the purchaser had to use a credit card, purchase a membership, and receive and use a password.
                                              and a big Fuck You to Visa

                                              Comment

                                              • Xenophage
                                                Registered User
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 12122

                                                #24
                                                Yes this is some of the best news the industry has had in a long long time

                                                Comment

                                                • Xenophage
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 12122

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                  and a big Fuck You to Visa

                                                  YUP fo sure

                                                  Comment

                                                  • Love Brokers
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 1699

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                    http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hilden/20050131.html

                                                    man this is an awesome read !

                                                    check out these parts

                                                    Precluded from citing any longstanding moral interest, the government in Extreme Associates put forward another putative state interest in an attempt to justify charging the defendants with violations of the criminal obscenity laws: An interest in protecting children, and unconsenting adults, from seeing such material.

                                                    But Judge Lancaster did not find this interest convincing. He pointed out that the website already protected children and unconsenting adults by erecting a number of gates: To buy a film, the purchaser had to use a credit card, purchase a membership, and receive and use a password.

                                                    And in any event, Judge Lancaster noted, even if the criminal law of obscenity marginally did serve these interests, it was far too blunt an instrument to do so constitutionally. The Supreme Court has made clear that adults should not lose rights to view material just because a "determined minor" can figure out a way to access that material, too.

                                                    This second ruling by Judge Lancaster was also very convincing. Especially since civil penalties are an option, and the site does use a credit-card requirement to screen out most minors, it seems grossly excessive for the defendants to face jail sentences of up to five years under the law. When it comes to the First Amendment, especially, the punishment must fit the offense far better than this.

                                                    In addition, the Supreme Court has long held that adults cannot, in effect, be sent back to the nursery when it comes to First Amendment rights: Just as a few industrious sixteen-year-olds are doubtless going to sneak pornographic magazines from behind the cash register, so too will they figure out a way to get a credit card and download pornographic films. We may want to take measures to stop them, but such measures should not include treating all adults accessing a give site like sixteen-year-olds, in the fear that a few sixteen-year-olds will masquerade as adults and gain access to the site.
                                                    Geeeee............a reasonable evaluation from a fucking judge. Must be one of my clients.
                                                    Content Junky
                                                    www.contentjunky.com
                                                    ICQ: 135173372

                                                    Comment

                                                    • Easton
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 9825

                                                      #27
                                                      A W E S O M E !!!
                                                      New models booked and shot every week... MILFs, pornstars and teens. Girls for every niche and project.
                                                      Looking for high-quality affordable exclusive content? Check me out at Easton Content for all the details.

                                                      Comment

                                                      Working...