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Our incapabilities to prove or disprove something do not mean something doesn't existOriginally posted by kaliboy2g
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I don't believe in GodFreeOnes
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I don't.Originally posted by MetaManComment
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oh damn another religious gfy thread. One thing is for sure though, if i was the creator of all life i wouldn't even think about saving people from drunk drivers, storms, fires etc since then everybody would expect something from me. I really hate overly religous people though, if you carry your bible with you i can tolerate it but if your telling me im going to hell because i scratched my nuts that pisses me off pretty bad.Comment
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OMG you scratched your nuts? You're gonna get it for sure!Sleep well, and dream of large women.
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In that case, god is a the biggest cocksucker. Ever.Originally posted by sweetMENeed custom blog posts or articles? Hit me up: Blog And Article Writer
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Originally posted by hydro
You're so fucked it's untrue. It seems that not only are you going to hell but all your family will die and go there too because of your actions. You may as well quit now as you have no future!Ignorance is never bliss.
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(Exodus 34:6-7) - "Then the Lord passed by in front of him and proclaimed, "The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in lovingkindness and truth; who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations."
Seems a little unloving and unmerciful to me, if I was asked.email: [email protected]Comment
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There is a higher being
There is a God. I'm not saying that a certain religions God is THE GOD but i know there is a higher being out there. Consider a few things:
1. How is it that all of our body parts work together to keep us alive?
2. How is it that when we break a bone or get a cut, our body is able to heal itself?
3. Even down to the places that we have hair like the eye lashes and nose, on our heads and chest and your pubic areas. Hair is placed in these places for reasons. It's either placed to keep these area's warm or to keep particles from getting in.
These things did not just happen by coincidence. The body was strategically built by something.Comment
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Take a 101 course in basic biology. Ignorance really isn't bliss despite so many thinking so around here.Originally posted by Skillz UnlimitedIgnorance is never bliss.
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What have you got to loose if you believe in god? Because if you die and he exists then all is good, if you die and you are simply dead then you havent lost anything.Comment
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Originally posted by dij
All the people that believe in God are stupid.
Riddle me this:
The ONLY way to know about God is to HEAR about him from somebody else.
Either through a story or by reading the bible.
So...let´s say for experiment sake you get a kid, and make sure it nevers gets to hear anything about God.
The kid will never think out of the blue: hey, I better get praying for god will smite my sorry ass.
If God would exist, don´t you think he would have made it SELF EVIDENT that he existed WITHOUT a stupid bible?
I´m sure all you godfearing people all of a sudden get deaf and come up with some silly excuses.Comment
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Heh, that's a great quote. Where's it from?Originally posted by DaddysGirl
In my case it's certainly true. I'd love to KNOW, as I suspect many others would. However, I do not know, and the ludicrious amounts of counter-intuitive, counter-reality dogma I'd have to swallow in order to give myself over to a faith-based existance goes against every fibre of my being. At my core I'm a rational, reasoning and (I believe) reasonable person who preferrs facts to 'shutting off my brain' and living life in what I consider to be a lie.
It would appear that, barring some astonishing, life-altering experience, I shall forevermore take The Red Pill... regardless of how bleak those facts might be. Part of the geas of living a reality-based existance is that you start to develop a bit of a cassandra complex around the true believers, having the luxury of being outside the system and seeing the manipulation of those within. Eventually, as my personal value system evolved, I realized that it's pointless and even rude to try to coax those individuals back into these waters that they metaphorically consider labelled 'Here There Be Dragones." They choose to define their existance in ways other ordain, I chose another course... and while I would celebrate those who would chart a similar course to mine, I have no hate for those who would deny it.
If only that basic respect could trump the tribalistic us-vs-them mentality and was honoured by all, the world would be a far more pleasant place.
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Originally posted by Nembrionic
Judging people by their beliefs is REALLY stupid
God did not make it self-evident because that would eliminate the factor of actual BELIEF now wouldn't it? If you'd try to read the actual Book instead of calling it stupid (while you probably have NO clue of what it says) you might actually grasp the concept.Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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Originally posted by leedsfan
Thank God, I don't live there....Comment
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So does this mean you never felt love in your whole life? Hmmm, sorry to hear manOriginally posted by rambler"...This isn't about proof, but believe..."
"...because their heart tells them to. Not because there's proof."
The voice of true rational and intelligent thinking
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Originally posted by pradaboyJudging people by their beliefs is REALLY stupid
God did not make it self-evident because that would eliminate the factor of actual BELIEF now wouldn't it? If you'd try to read the actual Book instead of calling it stupid (while you probably have NO clue of what it says) you might actually grasp the concept.
Thanks for proving you are one of the ´deaf´ ones.
I was raised with the bible. I don´t hate it. I think there´s a lot of valuable ´lessons´ hidden in it. But the thing itself is nonsens.
A ´belief´ is ALL that it is. It´s something people WANT to believe in so deep down they don´t have to worry about anything since there´s always an explanation: God.
It would eliminate the factor of belief right? By making it self-evident people would KNOW God exists. There would be no NEED for belief and HOPE that he exists. What more would God want?
God is supposed to be flawless. Well guess what? God IS flawless since he depends on the bible and the word of human beings. If that for some reason falls away, God wouldn´t ´exist´.
Take some secluded tropical island for example. People never saw a bible, never heard about God (not THIS one).
So how on earth could they BELIEVE in God? By just all of a sudden ´know´ about him?
BTW: judging people on their believes is stupid huh? Tell that to the insane amount of Christians that are talking shit about the Islam. "There is only one God" blablabla. Those people have their believes too ya know. Very fucking hypocrit.Comment
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Who says I'm one of those Christians? By saying that people who believe in God are stupid you mean every single one, including me. I did not talk about other people judging Muslims or anything I merely pointed out that you are judging that I'm stupid because of my beliefs. I think you have to agree with me that that's not a very intelligent remark now is it?Originally posted by Nembrionic
I do not approve of "other" Christians judging other people but why do you bring this up? To justify your remark? "Yeh but he pushed me first" that's the kind of remark you made there
Why do you call me one of the "deaf" ones? If you think I am please make your point... I'm always interested to discuss anything as long as it's an intelligent discussion and there is no prejudice at play.
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Im curious, for the people who dont believe in anything, how do you pattern your life? How do you decide between right and wrong? What guides you? What inspires you?Comment
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Right and wrong was given to me by Catholic school and my parents. About 5 months ago the death of my girlfriend opened my eyes. It was like taking the fucking pill in the Matrix.Originally posted by DaddysGirl
If there is a God....he is one fucked dude. Rape, Incest, Murder, Torture, Children getting killed, molested, beaten, exploited. Fuck the idea of God.★★★
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It's simpleOriginally posted by Elli
If there's no gosh, then after you die you just die
there's no afterlife, no heaven etc.
So why live? what is the difference between dying now and when you're 80 y.o.?
That's why atheist ppl commit more suicide then religous ppl. And currect me if I'm wrong.Mail me: [email protected]Comment
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so everything that goes wrong is His fault, or if He existed there would be no pain/unhappiness?Originally posted by Young
That's shortsighted man, people have a free will to do whatever they want... THAT is what's causing the grief and pain in this world
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God is not capable of punishing anyone. All god is capable of is creating the multiverse.Originally posted by dijComment
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keep up the good work, its really helpingOriginally posted by sweetME
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Originally posted by yuvalus
Your logic is flawed. Your are molding your arguments to fit your believes. That´s what I was talking about when I meant the ´deaf´ people.
You are bending your way of thinking.
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Excuse me? Am I not entitled to an opinion? I think it´s shortsighted to just accept the bible as being true.Originally posted by pradaboyWho says I'm one of those Christians? By saying that people who believe in God are stupid you mean every single one, including me. I did not talk about other people judging Muslims or anything I merely pointed out that you are judging that I'm stupid because of my beliefs. I think you have to agree with me that that's not a very intelligent remark now is it?
I do not approve of "other" Christians judging other people but why do you bring this up? To justify your remark? "Yeh but he pushed me first" that's the kind of remark you made there
Why do you call me one of the "deaf" ones? If you think I am please make your point... I'm always interested to discuss anything as long as it's an intelligent discussion and there is no prejudice at play.
There are so many supernatural happenings and big stories in there which never happen in the current days. Lemme guess? God has grown tired of us and gave up? There is ALWAYS an explanation when it comes to religion.
Typical trait of legends....
I call you one of the ´deaf´ people because of your ´self-evident´ remark. I explained my reasons in the same reply.Comment
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I did not say this is the proof, and I don't want to start preachin.Originally posted by NembrionicYour logic is flawed. Your are molding your arguments to fit your believes. That´s what I was talking about when I meant the ´deaf´ people.
You are bending your way of thinking.
I said that if ppl that don't believe will think about it, they will find that killing themselves is just like dying at the age of 80.Mail me: [email protected]Comment
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What is so wrong with death? I don't know what's "out there" any more or less than you do. Because (I don't think) there's any heaven or hell, I live my life doing what I think is right. I try to leave things better than when I found them, I do unto others as I would want them to do to me, and I try to be a better person. One day I hope to be old and wise and satisfied with my life, with few regrets. If I die at that point, who am I to complain? I had a pretty good kick at the cat, and I did what I could with it. No loss.Originally posted by yuvalus
Why would I die sooner from a lack of belief in a monothestic God? Is the sin attached to suicide the only thing that's keeping Catholics alive? I highly doubt that.email: [email protected]Comment
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I will pray to Ares and Athena before I enter the arena with you, and we shall see who the gods favour!Originally posted by rickholio
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Again you go ahead and make assumptions as if you actually know me!Originally posted by Nembrionic
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, but if you cannot defend it for 5 seconds that opinion is not worth much. You can call me "deaf" and I will call you "blind" for you do not see what goes on in this world
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Take a look around. The trees, the animals, the universe, everything in perfect harmony. Oh, but it all just happened by chance.Originally posted by Nembrionic
And if God was to make himself evident to the blind such as yourself people like you would be suing him for everything thats wrong in your life.Comment
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That seems a little arbitrary... when good things happen it goes to the "Glory of God", but when bad things happen we're responsible (or Jack Flash?) If we're responsible for the bad, then we should responsible for the good too... and if we're responsible for our own good, then God is irrelevant aside from being a comfortable illusion, as I had already mentioned.Originally posted by pradaboyso everything that goes wrong is His fault, or if He existed there would be no pain/unhappiness?
That's shortsighted man, people have a free will to do whatever they want... THAT is what's causing the grief and pain in this world
It all comes down to predestination: If good and bad are all part of God's Great Plan(tm) and all our actions are predetermined and known, then we're all merely cogs in a great machine and the illusion of free will is the cruelest of all hoaxes. If there's no fate but what we make, then the only purpose for God is to set the peices in motion and has no control over, or reprocussions on, our existance as we know it.
In my opinion, even if we ARE predestined 100% to some great celestial clockwork orange, the illusion of free will is so complete as to make it indistinguishable for all practical purposes.. irrespective if I'm a man waking up from a dream of being a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming I'm a man, the end result is the same.
That's enough dime store philosophy from me for now, methinks. Maybe I should wander over to the classics bookshelf and reread a little Goethe.
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You must not understand english very well or you are just narrow minded( I suspect the latter).Originally posted by pradaboyAgain you go ahead and make assumptions as if you actually know me!
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, but if you cannot defend it for 5 seconds that opinion is not worth much. You can call me "deaf" and I will call you "blind" for you do not see what goes on in this worldComment
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Yah, thats itOriginally posted by michel
Keep believing, it's your choice. I was just commenting on your defense of your beliefs... it sounded rather amusing.
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I date religous women. Not one night goes by where I don't hear a prayer starting with "Oh GOD!"
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Originally posted by dij
the parent's sin is passed unto their children. that's just the way it is.Comment
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"Religion is the opiate of the masses"
Karl Marx
Seems to me that religion is all about churches, "states", money, power and control.
Always has been.
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If there is a God your all fucked and going to hell so stfu about it. Comment
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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Its called natural selection over millions of years and not too hard to figure out.. Where was God when the dinosaurs roamed the earth? Comment
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Bad shit happens to good people, children die or are born with diabilities etc. because WE ARE ALL SINNERS (and so this forum has proven), even children. Children are sinners, even though they are innocent because that damn ADAM & EVE bit a fuckin' apple! I DO BELIEVE WE ARE BEING PERMANTLY PUNISHED AND LABELED SINNERS BECAUSE ANOTHER ASS DID SOME WRONG BY HIS "FREE WILL"!!
Now as far as handicap children "suffering"...I don't know that they all do...if they were born that way they don't have experiences with any different for comparison!! Maybe some suffer. We suffer more seeing them like that I think.Comment
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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Huh? The universe, planets and nature being in synch is due to natural selection? What grade are you in?Comment
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Originally posted by iwantchixx
Thats about the dumbest shit I've heard all week.Comment
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You have the nerve to accuse other people of being stupid then post something like this? Here's a riddle for your massive brain to chomp on: If what you said is true, where did the concept of God come from? Since no one left to their own devices would ever "... think out of the blue: hey, I better get praying for god will smite my sorry ass," then how did the concept of God ever reach its current state? Either your reasoning in the above post is wrong or you're wrong about God's existence. Either way, you should think twice about insulting the intelligence of people who don't agree with you when you've nothing to stand on, yourself.Originally posted by Nembrionic
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There are a lot of people in this thread quoting philosophers, songwriters and anyone else they can think of. Just because someone said something doesn't make it true.Originally posted by Ian"Religion is the opiate of the masses"
Karl Marx
Seems to me that religion is all about churches, "states", money, power and control.
Always has been.
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Just because someone wrote something down doesn´t make it true either.Originally posted by SpaceAceComment
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You have read my post carefully and yet you haven´t.Originally posted by SpaceAce
There were beliefs long before God came along.
People have the need to believe in something bigger so they don´t have to worry about the big things the don´t understand.
People have been believing in all kinds of gods.
Funny that NONE of these religions are selfevident and ALL are ONLY and I say again ONLY propagated through books, sculptures and talk.
NONE of these religions that EVOLVE over time have ever shown any evidence.
I say it again: God is flawed because he doesn´t exist if he´s not propagated through the means mentioned above.Comment
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and thus he can not exist according to your own precious bible..Comment
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