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and about the comment about Jordan having a good supporting cast, yeah...but he was a great team player and made players around him better.
Until Kobe gets better teammates and learns how to play a team game...he will never win another championship. It isn't like this is news...Kobe has been a ball hog and known as one before he even stepped on an NBA court. It's not something that's going to change.Comment
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So James has better stats? LOL
Do they hand out rings for that?
Hey, what is James stats in deciding post season games? What are Kobes? Lebron is a great basketball player, but how do you know how he will handle a deciding game? You must know something everyone else doesn't know. We all had to wait to find out with Jordan and Kobe, however with James, he is tall and strong so he WILL be great haha
Until James gets there, you are being presumptious. I would say that with any young player.Comment
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I think Lebron will eventually be the best player in the NBA if he isn't yet.Comment
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You're laughing? You think Bryant has a better statistical game and is a better team player?Originally posted by axelcat
Now that's something to laugh at
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Well now is a good time as any, Kobe will have a great teammate next year. Kevin Garnett might be a lakerOriginally posted by BannerDeptComment
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Because he has won ever since he was a kind in high school. Pay attention to the game and then get in on this arguement. KOBE WILL NEVER WIN AGAIN UNTIL HE LEARNS TO PLAY A TEAM GAME...and in those 3 championships...who was the Playoff MVP? SHAQ.Originally posted by WEG CoryComment
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Kobe has won many playoff games against the suns and the kings on last second jumpers, I have not seen lebron do such a thing yet.Comment
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How much organized basketball have you played in your life?Originally posted by axelcatComment
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From the Canadian Press:
"Phoenix ? Canadian Steve Nash is headed for a second straight NBA MVP award, according to the Arizona Republic.
The newspaper, citing a league source familiar with the voting, said the Suns point guard will become the 10th player to repeat as MVP. Magic Johnson is currently the only point guard to have won the award twice.
The Republic said the official announcement may not come for two weeks. But the votes have been tabulated in what was expected to be a close race with Nash, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Chauncey Billups and Kobe Bryant."Comment
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The only stat that matters...64 wins...should have been Billups.
He has almost the same numbers as Nash, but actually plays some defense.
Head to head against Nash numbers:
27 points, 4 rebounds, 11 assists
35 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists
For Nash:
18 points, 0 rebounds, 8 assists
13 points, 2 rebounds, 9 assists
Both Pistons victories. Nash got taken to school. Oh well, Billups will have to settle another finals MVP award.Comment
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I'm betting more than youOriginally posted by BannerDeptComment
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Again...learn the game before you comment, you're making yourself look silly.Originally posted by axelcat
Cleveland has gone from the worst team in the league when LeBron has drafted...to a winning 50 games this year and in the playoffs for the first time in 8 years.
How can you compare Kobe's entire career to a player that has only been in the league 3 years?Comment
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KOBE=selfish mother fucker
NASH=makes the whole team play like champions
KOBE=rapist
NASH=soccer player
KOBE=raped a girl, baught his wife a 3million dollar ringComment
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Originally posted by Malt Lick Her Go home...lol.
Put LeBron/Nash on that team and they win over 70 games. Billups He plays on an allstar team.
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sitting on the bench doesn't count.Originally posted by axelcatComment
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How can you compare a career that hasn't happened to a career that has?Originally posted by BannerDept
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Ben Wallace is the heart of that team. Billups is replaceable by a number of guards.Comment
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Originally posted by WEG CoryHow can you compare a career that hasn't happened to a career that has?
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This is only his first taste of the playoffs and he had a massive first game...you didn't think that was something?Originally posted by axelcatComment
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Originally posted by BannerDept
The NBA has had some fantastic players, and until you win championships you are nothing!
Magic, Bird, Jordan, Shaq (I hate the fucker), Kobe, all have multiple championships. They have made their marks in NBA history, Labron is an excellent player and he might break all the records, but will it be enough for him to win multiple championships? We will have to wait and see.Comment
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You look foolish...and show your lack of following the entire game.Originally posted by WEG CoryHow can you compare a career that hasn't happened to a career that has?
You're one of those guys that hears Kobe scores 81 and thinks he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
James has the greatest ever start to an NBA career.Comment
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Like John Madden says "Ya But?"
Ya but Labron does not have a championship yet. Dan Marino was great, Ya But he did not win any Superbowls. etc....Comment
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Look L. James is a great player with great potentiel to be one of the greatest players in nba history, All I am saying is Kobe has proven himself as a clutch player and has hit the big shots and has won the big games before.Originally posted by BannerDeptComment
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if you know LeBron's game, you know there are few in history like it...He's a special player that will win a lot of games/championships. It's not even a question...only question is how soon and how many.Originally posted by triumph
He's taking Cleveland from the worst team in the league to one of the top in the East in 3 season (all at the age of 21)....think about it.Comment
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As in the current NBA, not best of all time.Originally posted by Mike33Comment
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How many game winning assists and shots did James hit in the last month of the season? Not to mention he has won more player of the weeks/player of the months this season than anyone else.Originally posted by axelcatComment
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I am talking about when it counts, Playoff timeOriginally posted by BannerDeptComment
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Originally posted by Mike33
He's only going to get better with age...and if he stays heathly he'll break the all-time scoring record before he's 35.
LeBron's it. Do you think he'd have $120 million dollars in contracts before playing an NBA game if he wasn't?
He has done nothing but prove he's "it" ever since he started playing the game...from high school to the NBA. There's nothing more he could have done...Everyone expected greatness, but nothing like what he's done.
Start watching him, because you're going to miss something special if you don't.Comment
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Stats can be decieving. Look at Shaq, he is one of the top field goal percentage guys in the NBA and he cannot make a shot outside of 3 feet. (He cannot even shoot a jump shot, as he throws the ball at the rim or does a little baby hook shot.)
I remember watching an all star game when he launched a 3 pointer and it was the ugliest throw at the rim I've ever seen. So don't get bogged down in stats. There's more to the MVP then just scoring or beind a stats leader...
This was a very tight race as quite a few deserved it, but there can only be one mvp and Nash squeaked it out. Lebron would be a very close second for me and Kobe would be number 300 for me as rapists shouldn't get awards.
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I dont think it is fair when some of you guys say Labron is the best or gonna be the best player in NBA hostory.
There have been some great players, players that have changed the game to what it is today. Jerry West, Iceman, Dr. J, Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, and the list goes on, it is not fair to call anyone current in the NBA now as the best player. Let us respect the game, and the former players, and make sure their accomplishments and not forgotten.Comment
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You do realize there are always a few "special players," as you term them, in every draft for every sport, every year!Originally posted by BannerDept
Kobe was a phenom! Remember?
Everyone agrees Lebron is a supreme talent, you are the only one drinking beers in the ESPN Zone at 10am in the morning though!
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You know what, this is Kobe's first playoffs since Shaq left...and James first of his career...start comparing what they do from now on.Originally posted by axelcat
Kobe will be home watching LeBron in the 2nd round.
2 playoff games for LeBron - 1 triple double. How many does Kobe have? Oh yeah none, you'd think he'd have all kinds...being that great team player and everything.
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Yeah, a phenominal ballhog.Originally posted by WEG CoryYou do realize there are always a few "special players," as you term them, in every draft for every sport, every year!
Kobe was a phenom! Remember?
Everyone agrees Lebron is a supreme talent, you are the only one drinking beers in the ESPN Zone at 10am in the morning though!
You've never heard that about LeBron and never will.Comment
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Dude, just get out before it is too late. This is a bad day in the upper deck of the Cavs stadium!Originally posted by triumph
They are making room for the championship banners!
Hell, they have a crew working 24/7 hanging them already! They are going to announce the 2008 title next weekend!Comment
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Originally posted by BannerDept Go home...lol.
Put LeBron/Nash on that team and they win over 70 games. Billups He plays on an allstar team.
Nash, no way...He has a lot of flash but he also turns the ball over too much relative to Billups (1st in NBA in assist:turnover ratio).
LBJ, maybe after he figures out how to hit a clutch shot. It wasn't until 3/4 of the way through this season that he finally hit a game winner for the first time in the NBA. Billups hits clutch shots all the time, like he did when the Pistons won the title.Comment
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If you dont win a championship you cannot be considered greatest, Look at Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing all great players who do not get talked about much like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Kareem and so on. Bottom line is you need a ring to be amongst the best.Comment
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Reggie Bush is getting sized for a superbowl ring this morning.
Why wait? Just formalities really hahaComment
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You're probably almost right about 2008. They only need a couple pieces and they're there. If Hughes would have been healthy this year they would have won between 55-60 games.Originally posted by WEG CoryDude, just get out before it is too late. This is a bad day in the upper deck of the Cavs stadium!
They are making room for the championship banners!
Hell, they have a crew working 24/7 hanging them already! They are going to announce the 2008 title next weekend!Comment
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Originally posted by BannerDeptYou know what, this is Kobe's first playoffs since Shaq left...and James first of his career...start comparing what they do from now on.
Kobe will be home watching LeBron in the 2nd round.
2 playoff games for LeBron - 1 triple double. How many does Kobe have? Oh yeah none, you'd think he'd have all kinds...being that great team player and everything.
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Figures out? He hit two in the final month and has tons of game winning assists. It's hard hitting game winners when you're triple teamed.Originally posted by Malt Lick HerComment
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exactly...can't back up the actual facts huh?Originally posted by axelcatComment
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Originally posted by axelcat
Exactly!
[Insert Bannerdept comment here: Who is Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing? I have never heard of them]
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no I know, because I know the game. When everytime LeBron's talked about and everything he does is only comparable to Jordan or Robertson...that's elite class. Those players were all great. Elite, no. Only 1-2 Elite players come along every 15-20 yearsOriginally posted by triumphExactly!
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You honestly believe that Kobe isn't triple teamed? Dude, he lives with 3 defenders?Originally posted by BannerDept
They went ahead and moved them into his home!Comment
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Kobe has made the big shots just ask the Maloof brothers(the owners of the kings) they will tell youOriginally posted by BannerDept
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So BannerDept, while you are running PR for Lebron, comment on this:
Lebron said Kobe is the best player in the game and that he looks up to him. He has said Kobe has called him and gave him tips. He also said he is a long ways from being that good.Comment
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Did I say Kobe wasn't? Argue what I'm saying...don't put words in my mouth. I didn't mention Kobe at all there. I know he's triple teamed and hits big shots...never said he didn't.Originally posted by WEG Cory
If anyone could bring a valid arguement instead of BS to this it would be great.Comment
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Banner Dept you are being triple teamed right now.
You should pass the ball. King Adam should be along shortly hahaComment
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So now LeBron's supposed to be full of himself saying he's the best?Originally posted by WEG Cory
and he was talking about Kobe's killer instinct if you paid attention...and he appreciated that part of his game and his scoring ability.
and if you noticed since that interview...and the past month of the season, LeBron was the leading scorer in the NBA in the 4th quarter...and won several games with last second shots and passes. LeBron wants to be great and works on every aspect of his game to be great.
btw...James was second in MVP voting
Enough said.
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