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I am not a constitutional scholar either, but I have paid attention to the hearings that have been held about the "phone taps" and in one of the hearings I paid particular attention to what a half dozen former FISA Court Judges had to say. When congress passed FISA they added the language "the exclusive way" and each of the former FISA judges agreed that the lanquage would limit the power of the President provided to him by the constitution and thus is unconstitutional and not binding upon the President unless or until the Supreme Court ruled otherwise.
In other words all of the former FISA Court Judges agreed that the President not only has the constitutional right to ignore the FISA Court when "phone tapping" but in addition has an obligatory right to "phone tap" and would be derelict in his duties of the Presidency if he did not "phone tap".
In other panels before the committee the majority consensus among constitutional scholars was that the President had the constitutional authority to "phone tap" without going through the FISA courts and that the "exclusive" lanquage in the passing of FISA was not constitutional in that it limits the power of the President.
As for other crimes maybe you could be specific as to what the crimes are?
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Interesting info. To be honest, I have already learned a lot from reading all these posts.
As for other crimes, its not easy to just say he did it. Just like a lot of Americans, I see things happen and even though he has not been proven guilty of it, well that doesn't mean he isn't.
Let me give you an example. My father runs his own law firm. He is also a Judge. I know in this country a person is innocent untill proven guilty. But that doesn't mean they aren't guilty. And even if they are proven innocent in a court of law, there are many that are guilty and get off due to a technicality. I have seen with my own eyes this very thing. When I was younger, I used to go to court to see my Dad being a judge. I've seen people that I know go before him and get a not guilty verdict even though they were guilty. I know they were because it was people I know on a personal level. The judical system is as fucked up as anything. Thats why I never finished law school.
Now thats only on a state level. When you have as much power and money as the president and administration, its not that hard to have things overlooked and swept under the rug. There are payoffs, threats and blackmail.
For example, Bush went to Iraq because he wanted to get rid of WMD. All bullshit. He wanted control of oil .. period. I have family in the middle east and our media in the US sugar coats everything. You only see what they want you to see. That is just one small example. The whole 911 is a story in itself.
I very much appreciate your input and information. Learning and education are the only things that can truly make one better and more powerful. But one must open their eyes and realize that things aren't always what they seem to be. When it comes to the government, these things are usually not even close to the truth.