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  • RogerV
    Banned!
    • Jul 2002
    • 12591

    #1

    Burning Bridges

    The one thing i have learned in this Industry or any other is you never burn your Bridges because you never know when you will need to cross them again.

    Most of the bashing going on about sponsors is uncalled-for.

    If you can't get a hold of a sponsor by email,ICQ or phone the boards should be the last place to bitch and cry.



    I look at the threads and I don't understand why people bitch all the time. If I'm pushing other sponsors on my exits and they stop converting then just move on to the next. Programs get hot and cold maybe your traffic is burnt out on what your promoting.

    Its a never ending battle.

    I'm all about building relationships on the boards so if you have traffic I will make you Bank!
    you want to trade traffic hit me up.
    You have any good ideas I'm all ears.
    You want content I have a full free members section strokemag.

    we are all trying to make a buck and it takes all of us to keep this beast going.

    If your all about doing biz post here.
  • Killerelf
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 367

    #2
    OK makes sense but when people start ignoring me I get mad. Especially when they owe me money.
    I am not allowed to tell you anything that I feel like telling you

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    • RogerV
      Banned!
      • Jul 2002
      • 12591

      #3
      Originally posted by Killerelf
      OK makes sense but when people start ignoring me I get mad. Especially when they owe me money.
      I hear ya.
      Do you know the reason why or are they just straight out dodging you.

      There must be a reason if they don't pay the first time out turn them off.
      Or just promote sposors you talk to and build a relationship with.

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      • SleazyDream
        I'm here for SPORT
        • Jul 2001
        • 41470

        #4
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        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

        Now read without the word dog.

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        • MrPopup
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2002
          • 3783

          #5
          I just think some people get so frustrated with their inability to communicate with others that they use the board to say the things they wish they could in person.

          I prefer brass knux and a beatdown. Can't beat the POWER OF THE PUNCH
          <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1" bgcolor="#008000"><tr><td><font size=3>Gone</font></td></tr></table>

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          • Jon
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2002
            • 2578

            #6
            roger-

            its more like a heads up to other webmasters to be cautious with that specific sponsor. that's all.
            WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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            • SinEmpire
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2001
              • 9813

              #7
              There are sometimes good reasons to 'out' people or sponsors on the boards.

              Otherwise, Roger, you're absolutely right on. I see alot of bitching here on the boards that makes me question if a reasonable effort was ever made to resolve the issues beforehand. Sometimes it almost seems that people go right to the board and don't even think about picking up the phone. Sometimes people defy logic. I think I once saw a post on here where someone was looking for the number to CCBill. Fuck, all they had to do was go to their website.

              Cheers,

              Brad
              President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
              71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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              • Flynn
                pr0's goat screwed me
                • Jan 2002
                • 2083

                #8
                Great points Roger. Nicely said.

                -Errol
                blah blah blah

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                • hyper
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 5294

                  #9
                  because alot of sponsors think this is a game..

                  i have to chase fuckheads down for my cash..
                  if they say they pay on the 12th .. then fucking pay on the 12th

                  i wait 7 days for a check then i ask where it is..
                  i can send a letter to east bumfuck within 7 days..

                  and then i get..
                  oh we had a delay on the checks..
                  they were mailed out yesterday

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                  • RogerV
                    Banned!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 12591

                    #10
                    I totally agree with all said but get to know your sposors before you promote them.

                    Don't just be a number that is why we have all these resources to get in touch with each other at shows and on boards etc.

                    I personal don't send anyone traffic unless they contact me or i contact them. have a beer at the show or meet everyone you do business with you will get alot further and you won't have to worry about not getting paid.

                    If you can't reach a sponsor by phone most of the time they are hiding for a reason and might not be in this for the long run.
                    So they shave and cash out early.

                    I'm just getting a few things off my shoulder

                    peace out

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                    • 12clicks
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 19813

                      #11
                      Burning bridges is fucking fun!
                      You just gotta know which ones to burn.


                      Originally posted by hyper
                      because alot of sponsors think this is a game..

                      i have to chase fuckheads down for my cash..
                      if they say they pay on the 12th .. then fucking pay on the 12th

                      i wait 7 days for a check then i ask where it is..
                      i can send a letter to east bumfuck within 7 days..

                      and then i get..
                      oh we had a delay on the checks..
                      they were mailed out yesterday
                      do you REALLY expect things to run flawlessly all the time?
                      That's assholish thinking.
                      The other day I was sitting here thinking,"I don't remember seeing a check from XXXcompany. let me give them an icq"

                      I asked. they said,"sorry, there was a problem. I'll get it right out"
                      I said, "ok, thanks"
                      It arrived a couple days later.
                      No fucking problem. you know why? because I'm not some little putz thinking I'm being beaten out of 50.00 bucks by a million dollar company.

                      Not using a million dollar company? then you get what you deserve. (can they REALLY be called sponsors just because they have a paysite and pay you for traffic)
                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                      • skillet
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 19

                        #12
                        Some people in this industry just don't have a clue!
                        No Worries!

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                        • BradShaw
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 7840

                          #13
                          I burn bridges all the time, but I also rebuild them where there is $ to be made.
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                          • DrewKole
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 5193

                            #14


                            Good Post Roger... I think alot of people aren't thinking with a clear head... just like vegas, the money you see here, ISNT your $$$ until the check is cashed.

                            So people keep thinking, I'll keep sending them traffic... maybe it'll get better or... I'd rather not have to switch my links or... they check will be there soon...

                            Meanwhile, they're spending their own $$$ out of pocket on content and hosting, in the hopes that the sponsor will shape up.

                            People need to learn how to 1) use SSI to change all their links if they need to, and 2) Put just enough faith into a company that it will neither break your bank or make your bank.

                            Using 1 sponsor solely is grounds for alot of heartache... Use 2-3 main ones, and don't be afraid to play around with other sponsors... to test the water. Use what works for ya, if it makes you $$$ then use it... if it doesn't then you don't owe them anything, move on, and come back later if you feel like it.

                            That being said, try out Roger's new proggies. Good stuff.

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                            • hyper
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 5294

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 12clicks



                              do you REALLY expect things to run flawlessly all the time?
                              That's assholish thinking.
                              The other day I was sitting here thinking,"I don't remember seeing a check from XXXcompany. let me give them an icq"

                              I asked. they said,"sorry, there was a problem. I'll get it right out"
                              I said, "ok, thanks"
                              It arrived a couple days later.
                              No fucking problem. you know why? because I'm not some little putz thinking I'm being beaten out of 50.00 bucks by a million dollar company.

                              [/B]
                              i dont expect things to run flawlessy..
                              but you start to see a pattern of this shit...
                              then you know they are fuckheads..
                              if its 50 bucks from 1 sponsor its no sweat.
                              but multiply that by 100.. and you'll see why that $50 is important.

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                              • 12clicks
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 19813

                                #16
                                Originally posted by hyper

                                i dont expect things to run flawlessy..
                                but you start to see a pattern of this shit...
                                then you know they are fuckheads..
                                if its 50 bucks from 1 sponsor its no sweat.
                                but multiply that by 100.. and you'll see why that $50 is important.
                                you use 100 different sponsors?
                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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