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  • killshot
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2004
    • 456
    #1

    VISA rules ARGH

    On Amazon.com you can purchase a classic novel called "Lolita" It was written in 1955 and is a story about a man and his relationship with a young girl.
    It was eventually made into a movie by Stanly Kubrick.

    Today I did not pass the CCBill review process because one of my models listed this book as one of her favorite novels, and so much as mentioning this book puts you in violation of VISA rules.

    Why is it that Amazon.com which accepts visa can sell the book.. but i can not speak of it?

    Corporate censorship is so fun.
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    • Manowar
      jellyfish  
      • Dec 2003
      • 71528
      #2
      the words lolita on an adult site are never going to go down well. Amazon can get away with it because they have nothing to do with adult, they have books about everything.

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        • killshot
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2004
          • 456
          #3
          Originally posted by Manowar
          the words lolita on an adult site are never going to go down well. Amazon can get away with it because they have nothing to do with adult, they have books about everything.
          But they sell adult books
          you can buy books full of nude girls on amazon.
          so i would say it does indeed involve adult

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            • Mr.Fiction
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 9484
              #4
              This is one of the ways that governments do censorship now - they pressure private companies who are monopolies to censor you rather than trying to do it themselves. That way ignorant people will say "it's their right, they are just a private company" without realizing the hand that the government has in pressuring private companies.

              Don't expect it to get better. Most Americans don't seem to care about free speech anymore.

              First Amendment goes "too far," say students in survey
              http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...tudents01.html

              Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                • Theo
                  HAL 9000
                  • May 2001
                  • 34515
                  #5
                  unlucky event, but you should have predicted it

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                    • William-Xfactor
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 299
                      #6
                      It?s called common sense.
                      There is no place for such words in the adult industry. No matter what the context.

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                        • Paco, of Large Cash.
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 2267
                          #7
                          Simple ... they (credit providers) are some of the biggest hypocrites out there, next to insurance agencies & brokers.

                          (Yes, CP is fucking bad ... no shit ... thanks for the fucking reminder, now please re-read why the sensitive or flagged word was used.)

                          So, persons in this industry are not allowed to appreciate the exact same art and literature that people from the 'mainstream' do/can/are.

                          Nice double standard ... oh yah, wait ... it is fair cause Amazon is not in the porn industry yet AMAZON SELLS PORN on their site.
                          Last edited by Paco, of Large Cash.; 02-01-2005, 02:17 PM.

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                            • killshot
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 456
                              #8
                              Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                              It?s called common sense.
                              There is no place for such words in the adult industry. No matter what the context.

                              what about "Tastes like Chicken by Lolita Files" Should we censor the names of actual authors too?

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                                • killshot
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 456
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Paco, of Large Cash.
                                  Nice double standard ... oh yah, wait ... it is fair cause Amazon is not in the porn industry yet AMAZON SELLS PORN on their site.
                                  Link doesn't work.. but ya just search for porn on amazon

                                  Amazon sells porn.. amazon is therefor in adult..

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                                    • Mr.Fiction
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 9484
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                      It?s called common sense.
                                      There is no place for such words in the adult industry. No matter what the context.
                                      Are you joking or just anti-free speech?

                                      An adult model has a right to share the fact that she likes the classic book Lolita just as much as the next person.

                                      If you think that words you don't like should be banned, then why not "teen" or "murder" or "gun" or "violence" or, if you are a far right winger, "porn"?

                                      Free speech means being able to say things that offend some people. No person has ever been hurt by writing or reading the word "lolita".

                                      The fact that high school kids don't care about free speech really shouldn't be a surprise when you look at how many people here on GFY aren't just apathetic, but are actually anti-free speech.

                                      Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                        • Paco, of Large Cash.
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 2267
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by killshot
                                          Link doesn't work.. but ya just search for porn on amazon

                                          Amazon sells porn.. amazon is therefor in adult..
                                          So sorry Killshot ... I was trying to prove a point (aside from my being an idiot
                                          ).

                                          Simply go to Amazon's website and type 'porn' in their search box ... for a company that is not in the 'porn' industry, they sure do have a lot of ... uh, PORN!

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                                            • Shoplifter
                                              Richest man in Babylon
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 5863
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by killshot
                                              Today I did not pass the CCBill review
                                              Finally decided to move it all to CCBILL?

                                              What area on Maui are you in if you don't mind me asking?
                                              I Like Blondes

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                                                • William-Xfactor
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 299
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                  Are you joking or just anti-free speech?

                                                  An adult model has a right to share the fact that she likes the classic book Lolita just as much as the next person.

                                                  If you think that words you don't like should be banned, then why not "teen" or "murder" or "gun" or "violence" or, if you are a far right winger, "porn"?

                                                  Free speech means being able to say things that offend some people. No person has ever been hurt by writing or reading the word "lolita".

                                                  The fact that high school kids don't care about free speech really shouldn't be a surprise when you look at how many people here on GFY aren't just apathetic, but are actually anti-free speech.

                                                  Free speech is one thing and common sense is another.

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                                                    • killshot
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 456
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                      Finally decided to move it all to CCBILL?

                                                      What area on Maui are you in if you don't mind me asking?
                                                      I am upcountry, Kula

                                                      Ya, i was finally able to come up with the $ i need to switch

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                                                        • Paco, of Large Cash.
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 2267
                                                          #15
                                                          Common sense (CS) ?

                                                          CS tells me anything or person that sells porn is (yup, that is correct kiddies) in the porn industry, no matter if you declare it or hide the fact - I see shit loads of porn on/at Amazon.

                                                          CS is the typical defense/excuse for those that can not explain hypocrisies.

                                                          CS tells me if any given entity is permitted (being with autorization) to do something, so am I! No fucking weak-ass excuse.
                                                          Last edited by Paco, of Large Cash.; 02-01-2005, 02:51 PM.

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                                                            • MandyBlake
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                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 17761
                                                              #16
                                                              its not the book...its the word lolita.
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                                                                • killshot
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 456
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by MandyBlake
                                                                  its not the book...its the word lolita.
                                                                  So then why can amazon use the word in the descriptions of 1,062 items on its site?

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                                                                    • Paco, of Large Cash.
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                      • 2267
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by MandyBlake
                                                                      its not the book...its the word lolita.
                                                                      ?

                                                                      Debating why Amazon can sell the word (whether in the form of a title to a book they sell or whatever), yet a model (and chances are any person from this industry that reads) can not simple use it to name one of her favorite reads, which (bingo) Amazon sells, along with all the porn.


                                                                      Guess no one here can list M.Jackson's autobiography as a favorite read ... his name after all is synonymous with CP.

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                                                                        • Mr.Fiction
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 9484
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by MandyBlake
                                                                          its not the book...its the word lolita.
                                                                          Erotic BPM looks like a community website. How can a community website not be allowed to discuss classic books?

                                                                          What about GFY - it's an adult forum. Should no adult sites be allowed to have forums because someone might mention a book or movie that offends someone?

                                                                          What if someone on Killshot's site wants to discuss how terrible child porn is? What if they want to talk about a news story where some priest molested a child?

                                                                          People who visit adult sites shouldn't be allowed to condemn child porn or talk about the news?

                                                                          Should they be allowed to talk about mainstream movies that have rape or murder in them?

                                                                          Does any of that make any sense?
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                                                                            • Paco, of Large Cash.
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                              • 2267
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                              Erotic BPM looks like a community website. How can a community website not be allowed to discuss classic books?
                                                                              What about GFY - it's an adult forum. Should no adult sites be allowed to have forums because someone might mention a book or movie that offends someone?
                                                                              What if someone on Killshot's site wants to discuss how terrible child porn is? What if they want to talk about a news story where some priest molested a child?
                                                                              People who visit adult sites shouldn't be allowed to condemn child porn or talk about the news?
                                                                              Should they be allowed to talk about mainstream movies that have rape or murder in them?
                                                                              Does any of that make any sense?


                                                                              No, and it never will to a person who truly has common sense

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                                                                                • killshot
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                  • 456
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                  Erotic BPM looks like a community website. How can a community website not be allowed to discuss classic books?

                                                                                  What about GFY - it's an adult forum. Should no adult sites be allowed to have forums because someone might mention a book or movie that offends someone?

                                                                                  What if someone on Killshot's site wants to discuss how terrible child porn is? What if they want to talk about a news story where some priest molested a child?

                                                                                  People who visit adult sites shouldn't be allowed to condemn child porn or talk about the news?

                                                                                  Should they be allowed to talk about mainstream movies that have rape or murder in them?

                                                                                  Does any of that make any sense?
                                                                                  Makes sense to me

                                                                                  I just think there needs to be better flexability here
                                                                                  If my site was using the word "lolita" in an attempt to draw in customers looking for CP.. yeah, that is wrong and i would never do that and i can understand visa rules not allowing that word for that reason.

                                                                                  but when a community of models and members want to have harmless discussion.. or talk about a favorite book that has been enjoyed by many many people in mainstream culture.... i think they should be allowed to.

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                                                                                    • swedguy
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 7981
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by MandyBlake
                                                                                      its not the book...its the word lolita.
                                                                                      BIG difference between

                                                                                      "Lolita by Vladimir Nobokov"

                                                                                      and

                                                                                      "1000 pics of horny lolitas"

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                                                                                        • William-Xfactor
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 299
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by killshot
                                                                                          Makes sense to me

                                                                                          I just think there needs to be better flexability here
                                                                                          If my site was using the word "lolita" in an attempt to draw in customers looking for CP.. yeah, that is wrong and i would never do that and i can understand visa rules not allowing that word for that reason.

                                                                                          but when a community of models and members want to have harmless discussion.. or talk about a favorite book that has been enjoyed by many many people in mainstream culture.... i think they should be allowed to.
                                                                                          As an adult Webmaster you understand the stigma that is associated with such words. You already had your site canned by ccbill, so ask your self this. Is it really worth it?
                                                                                          Common sense should tell you no.

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                                                                                            • swedguy
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 7981
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                                                                              As an adult Webmaster you understand the stigma that is associated with such words. You already had your site canned by ccbill, so ask your self this. Is it really worth it?
                                                                                              Common sense should tell you no.
                                                                                              So it should be forbidden to say that you have "2 children" in your bio on an adult site since the word "children" is not something you want associated with porn?

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                                                                                                • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                  • 9484
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                                                                                  As an adult Webmaster you understand the stigma that is associated with such words. You already had your site canned by ccbill, so ask your self this. Is it really worth it?
                                                                                                  Common sense should tell you no.
                                                                                                  So what exactly do you think the entire adult industry supposed to do - ban people from talking about things that everyone else is talking about?

                                                                                                  You are posting on an adult forum which is part of an adult company that has credit card processing. Do you think that credit card companies should cancel processing for any site linked from this forum because people on this board discuss news stories and movies and other things that contain words you don't like?

                                                                                                  Answer this - why should an adult community not be allowed to talk about the news or mainstream movies?
                                                                                                  Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                                                                                    • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                      • 16015
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Visa doesn't care about Nabokov, they don't care about porn, and they don't care about Amazon.

                                                                                                      Visa is about protecting their brand. Selling a book that's a classic is fine within their brand strategy, selling a membership to a site called Lolitas is not within their brand strategy.

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                                                                                                        • William-Xfactor
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                          • 299
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by swedguy
                                                                                                          So it should be forbidden to say that you have "2 children" in your bio on an adult site since the word "children" is not something you want associated with porn?
                                                                                                          Now you?re just being silly.

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                                                                                                            • freeadultcontent
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                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                              • 9976
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                                                                                              Free speech is one thing and common sense is another.
                                                                                                              You lost me after free speech.
                                                                                                              Text should always be protected, even if it is completely fucking sick and wrong. With the legal exception of libel.

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                                                                                                                • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                  • 9484
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                                  Visa doesn't care about Nabokov, they don't care about porn, and they don't care about Amazon.

                                                                                                                  Visa is about protecting their brand. Selling a book that's a classic is fine within their brand strategy, selling a membership to a site called Lolitas is not within their brand strategy.
                                                                                                                  The site is called "Erotic BPM" and on that site they have a place where models or members can list their favorite books and one of them listed the book Lolita.

                                                                                                                  Do you think that Visa should ban adult sites from having forums because some member might talk about a movie, book, or news story that might offend someone?

                                                                                                                  What about the example of GFY itself? People here talk about everything you can imagine - should this forum be banned by Visa from processing? What about sites linked from it?
                                                                                                                  Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                                                                                                    • killshot
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                      • 456
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                                                                                                      As an adult Webmaster you understand the stigma that is associated with such words. You already had your site canned by ccbill, so ask your self this. Is it really worth it?
                                                                                                                      Common sense should tell you no.
                                                                                                                      Is what worth it?

                                                                                                                      I have thousands of user profiles and discussions that happen on the site.
                                                                                                                      and while i monitor things and moderate as best i can.. i cant see everything that is said.. i didnt even know the word existed on my site until they told me.

                                                                                                                      it seems stupid i should have to censor things down to individual words without considering context

                                                                                                                      Example... once someone made a post about how disgusting it is that these "artistic nude" and "teen model" sites are allowed to exist.
                                                                                                                      An intelligent conversation followed. but certain words could have been said that might not be allowed. Should i have to ban conversations like that? even though it is a conversation condemning such things?

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                                                                                                                        • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                          Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                          • 5863
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                                          Visa doesn't care about Nabokov, they don't care about porn, and they don't care about Amazon.

                                                                                                                          Visa is about protecting their brand. Selling a book that's a classic is fine within their brand strategy, selling a membership to a site called Lolitas is not within their brand strategy.

                                                                                                                          KK has such a way with words. Succinct and true.
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                                                                                                                            • killshot
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                              • 456
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                                              selling a membership to a site called Lolitas is not within their brand strategy.
                                                                                                                              ummm yeah.. i'm not selling memberships to a site named that..

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                                                                                                                                • Mike Okitch
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 4126
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  It's sad to say but double standards do exist.
                                                                                                                                  SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                                                                                    • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 9484
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                      KK has such a way with words. Succinct and true.
                                                                                                                                      It may be true but it is irrelevant in relation to the site in question, which is called "Erotic BPM" not "Lolitas".

                                                                                                                                      It would be interesting to know what KK thinks about the actual site and the actual content that was flagged.
                                                                                                                                      Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                                                                                                                        • swedguy
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 7981
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                                                                                                                          Now you?re just being silly.
                                                                                                                                          No, I'm not. It's the same thing. It's all about the context.

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                                                                                                                                            • killshot
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 456
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                              It would be interesting to know what KK thinks about the actual site and the actual content that was flagged.
                                                                                                                                              Here is a copy of the profile flagged (uploaded somewhere else so not to offend visa)

                                                                                                                                              Link

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                                                                                                                                                • William-Xfactor
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 299
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  My last post in this thread have work to do sorry.

                                                                                                                                                  This debate could go on forever but at the end of the day,
                                                                                                                                                  Whether it?s right or wrong. The word is frowned upon by visa, why risk your business.
                                                                                                                                                  Common sense people.


                                                                                                                                                  Cheers

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                                                                                                                                                    • jimmyf
                                                                                                                                                      OU812
                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 12651
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                                                                                                                                      As an adult Webmaster you understand the stigma that is associated with such words. You already had your site canned by ccbill, so ask your self this. Is it really worth it?
                                                                                                                                                      Common sense should tell you no.
                                                                                                                                                      I would think so..

                                                                                                                                                      don't think I would have posted on GFY either. But that's just what my common sense tells me.
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                                                                                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Manowar
                                                                                                                                                          the words lolita on an adult site are never going to go down well. Amazon can get away with it because they have nothing to do with adult, they have books about everything.
                                                                                                                                                          NO they have NOTHING ot do with ADULT

                                                                                                                                                          http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...479265-8088121

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                                                                                                                                                            • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                                              Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 5863
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                                              It may be true but it is irrelevant in relation to the site in question, which is called "Erotic BPM" not "Lolitas".

                                                                                                                                                              It would be interesting to know what KK thinks about the actual site and the actual content that was flagged.

                                                                                                                                                              The point is that it doesn't matter.

                                                                                                                                                              CCBill ran a word filtering script and it came up positive. Just fix it and move on.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Young
                                                                                                                                                                  Bland for life
                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 10468
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Do you actually think those idiots took time to read your whole site???? They most likely either searched it or briefly skimmed through it. Saw Lolita and flagged it....period. They don't have time to read about walks on the beach and cookies and cream ice cream
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                                                                                                                                                                    • killshot
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 456
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                                                      The point is that it doesn't matter.

                                                                                                                                                                      CCBill ran a word filtering script and it came up positive. Just fix it and move on.
                                                                                                                                                                      I fixed it.. but i'm still going to bitch about it.

                                                                                                                                                                      I don't know why it is so easy for huge corporations to push americans around
                                                                                                                                                                      we just keep saying "deal with it"

                                                                                                                                                                      Soon enough the wishes of all those high school students who want press to be government approved will come true..

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Wiggles
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                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14423
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          amazon is less likely to have underage models then a random website on the internet.
                                                                                                                                                                          no sig

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                                                                                                                                                                            • killshot
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 456
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Wiggles
                                                                                                                                                                              amazon is less likely to have underage models then a random website on the internet.
                                                                                                                                                                              What about the girls that model "lolita" underwear on amazon?
                                                                                                                                                                              they could be underage. maybe amazon.com is trying to lure in guys looking for underage girls modeling underwear

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                                                                                                                                                                                • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 18208
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Wiggles
                                                                                                                                                                                  amazon is less likely to have underage models then a random website on the internet.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I think it has to do more with that Amazon brings in more $$$$ ot Visa and some ma and pop website.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                                      I think it has to do more with that Amazon brings in more $$$$ ot Visa and some ma and pop website.
                                                                                                                                                                                      That is probably the bottom line.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Cassie
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by killshot
                                                                                                                                                                                          But they sell adult books
                                                                                                                                                                                          you can buy books full of nude girls on amazon.
                                                                                                                                                                                          so i would say it does indeed involve adult
                                                                                                                                                                                          they sell adult books, adult toys, adult supplements.

                                                                                                                                                                                          i am baffled by the logic as well.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                                                                              It may be true but it is irrelevant in relation to the site in question, which is called "Erotic BPM" not "Lolitas".

                                                                                                                                                                                              It would be interesting to know what KK thinks about the actual site and the actual content that was flagged.
                                                                                                                                                                                              It doesn't matter one bit what I think about the book, the site, the word or the Visa brand. I'm not in charge over there. They are a private company and they have the right to do what they feel like they want to in order to run their company and protect their brand. Including being complete jerks if they feel like it.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Not a thing that can be done about it but to try and find as many alternative billing methods for your site that you can.

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