Sextracker Busted for Spyware and everybody is still using them?

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  • onlymovies
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2003
    • 906
    #51
    Not having a third party counter such sextracker on our site, has NEVER hurt advertising sales. I've never used one and probably never will. But we're sold out 2 - 6 months in advanced on all spots without ever fully advertising on the boards, etc. Advertisers know where the traffic is, whether you have a counter or not.
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      • Shap
        Confirmed User
        • May 2001
        • 8313
        #52
        Hey Rockbear, Worldsex and Al4a are hosted with Sextracker.

        I will tell you this.
        #1 is 100% false
        #2 is 100% true
        #3 is something they think
        #4 is not the case.

        These guys are doing it to show how big they are and because they think it brings in more advertisers. The flip side of the coin is it makes them a huge target.

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          • Shap
            Confirmed User
            • May 2001
            • 8313
            #53
            Exactly Onlymovies. It helps that you have REALLY kick ass traffic. I think the only advertisers you get from having a public counter are the noobs. And those noobs spend big bucks one month and are too broke to renew.

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              • rockbear
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 806
                #54
                I see netland and striclyhosting here.

                But maybe that your right man. If their host is flyincroc.

                So you think that if they remove their counter Flyingcroc will say: Hey you removed our counter so we don't host you anymore? If I would own a hosting company I would like to keep some big players like them for the long run.

                I would like to know the real reason from worldsex and thehun. Thehun posted several months ago about their spyware but I don't know why that counter is back on the main page.

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                  • SleazyDream
                    I'm here for SPORT
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 41470
                    #55
                    Originally posted by shap
                    Here's a scary thought....

                    Let's take Paycom and Ccbill for example. What if these spyware guys are stealing the hits going to our join forms with the processors. Would this not be possible for them to do?


                    cough chough - remembers somes who's name started with 'C' and ended with 'O'
                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                    Now read without the word dog.

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                      • Shap
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2001
                        • 8313
                        #56
                        Hey Sleazy dude. Thanks for posting. What's your take on spyware? I know that when it comes to TGP people listen to you.

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                          • Shap
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2001
                            • 8313
                            #57
                            Hey Sleazy i think you just got a nice list of TOP NOTCH candidates for this week's Ambush. Bode and Bama.

                            Can you say HUGE views?

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                              • SleazyDream
                                I'm here for SPORT
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 41470
                                #58
                                Originally posted by shap
                                Hey Sleazy dude. Thanks for posting. What's your take on spyware? I know that when it comes to TGP people listen to you.

                                my take is this.
                                I've heard rhumors of sextracker doing this - nothing but rhumors - and NEVER on counter load - some time ago. I havn't heard anything about them using it on their counter from ANYONE other than no name trolls. I have a LOT of surfers and friends that watch and surf my site on a regular basis - as do all the other top sites. If a counter did do this my email and icq would go crazy and i would take their counter down. I've never sceen any instance of this, and untill i do as far as i'm concerned it's rhumors created by people who want to take business away from sextracker.

                                reality is this. If someone cheats on their wife do you stop doign business with them? If someone does illegial drugs do you not trust them?

                                My thought is I concern myself with my own business - if I CATCH someone using spyware or adware on my site I'll cursify them, but I've never caught sextracker doing that and I won't just take the word of others that can't provide me with ANY PROOF of where this happened. With Proof I'll string the fucker up though.


                                note - sextracker does use a cookie on thier counter that does show up in many spy removal software packages - this cookie is NOT spyware or adware - it's been used for years and allows one's site to be properly tracked.
                                This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                Now read without the word dog.

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                                  • TheDoc
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 13827
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                    my take is this.
                                    I've heard rhumors of sextracker doing this - nothing but rhumors - and NEVER on counter load - some time ago. I havn't heard anything about them using it on their counter from ANYONE other than no name trolls. I have a LOT of surfers and friends that watch and surf my site on a regular basis - as do all the other top sites. If a counter did do this my email and icq would go crazy and i would take their counter down. I've never sceen any instance of this, and untill i do as far as i'm concerned it's rhumors created by people who want to take business away from sextracker.

                                    reality is this. If someone cheats on their wife do you stop doign business with them? If someone does illegial drugs do you not trust them?

                                    My thought is I concern myself with my own business - if I CATCH someone using spyware or adware on my site I'll cursify them, but I've never caught sextracker doing that and I won't just take the word of others that can't provide me with ANY PROOF of where this happened. With Proof I'll string the fucker up though.


                                    note - sextracker does use a cookie on thier counter that does show up in many spy removal software packages - this cookie is NOT spyware or adware - it's been used for years and allows one's site to be properly tracked.

                                    Well said.. We have never seen an issue with the counter, cookie, or hosts ran by FCI. I can't speak for the dialer, which is what this spyware issue is about.
                                    ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                    It's all disambiguation

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                                      • boneprone
                                        Hall Of Fame
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 34415
                                        #60
                                        Hey sleazy..

                                        Remeber about a year or so ago your site being hijacked?? It was the Sexocean network boys sending your traffic to some video site.. They were somehow using sites with the sextracker counter on em to manipulate your traffic..

                                        Now that wasnt in any way due to the actions of sextracker was it? It was the punks who we assumed to be sexocean right??

                                        I mean there are still some who insist sextracker had something to do with it all along..

                                        I, just like you try not to believe it. But it was always in the back of my mind..

                                        That was some wicked shit going on about a year ago with sites with the sextracker counter on em. I even took mine down for about a year and just recently put mine back up..

                                        Now this shap thread has me thinking... Are the two stories here unrelated or is this just all one big related issue?

                                        Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
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                                          • boneprone
                                            Hall Of Fame
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 34415
                                            #61
                                            http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...ean+sextracker

                                            Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
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                                              • boneprone
                                                Hall Of Fame
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 34415
                                                #62
                                                http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...tracker+hijack

                                                Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
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                                                  • boneprone
                                                    Hall Of Fame
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 34415
                                                    #63
                                                    Ok I remember the situation now..

                                                    Someone was spreading spyware.. The technology behind it was it was triggered when a surfer hit a site that had the sextracker counter on it..

                                                    It was not the sextracker counter persay doing the action.. It was the adware-exploit that was previously installed via some other site or method.. Then when it was installed, whenever the surfer would hit a site with the tracker on it, it would hijack the surfer taking em to the popups or the dialers..

                                                    At the time it was written on that sextracker was just as much a victum of this act as we were..

                                                    I still till this day feel that they had nothing to do with this..

                                                    But yeah Ive heard stories, and of other unrelated things.. That Bama guy is a smart fucker. If he's programing for Sextracker's counter the sky is the limit.

                                                    But truthfully that hijacking issue some years back was just way too blatant and no way would Sextracker involve themselves in that..

                                                    As if they have ever touched adware in the past, yeah wouldnt suprise me.. But to what extent?? And is it really to the extent of concern??

                                                    Probably not.

                                                    Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                    Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                    http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                    Learn about it kids.

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                                                      • boneprone
                                                        Hall Of Fame
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 34415
                                                        #64
                                                        Anyhow, yeah ive been back and forth on this issue personally when it comes to that tracker..
                                                        The only reason I use it really is for that top 20 ranking placement. I dont really use it to track or give me data.. Its never really been accurate for me.

                                                        Its more of just an advertisement showing off how big your dick is really and adding Value to your advertisers..

                                                        I dont have advertisers or paid spots so I really dont need the thing..

                                                        Im trying to think of why else I use it.. Other than to balance the fact I have a small cock.. Its kinda like the Corvette effect I guess.

                                                        This thread makes ya think.

                                                        Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                        Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                        http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                        Learn about it kids.

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                                                          • boneprone
                                                            Hall Of Fame
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 34415
                                                            #65
                                                            Anyway, someone get me more proof or what extent any of thier spyware-adware has..

                                                            I have no problem with it really, depending on how severe or how intrusive the act is.

                                                            Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                            Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                            http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                            Learn about it kids.

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                                                              • boneprone
                                                                Hall Of Fame
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 34415
                                                                #66
                                                                Damn..

                                                                I got into this discussion a bit too late so it seems..

                                                                Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
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                                                                  • Stephen
                                                                    Consigliere
                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 1771
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by shap
                                                                    We are in an industry where making money is so easy. We all make way more than we would in any another industry. Instead of being happy with that, the greedy bastards go out and try to fuck over our surfers even more. It's the same old shit with this biz. A bunch of lowlifes greedy pricks that are raping the surfer, getting rich and leaving somebody else (the honest webmasters) to clean up the mess they've caused.
                                                                    Amen

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                                                                      • Shap
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 8313
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Hey Bone

                                                                        I just heard that possibly sextracker may not be involved in this at all. We shall see what happens.

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                                                                          • SleazyDream
                                                                            I'm here for SPORT
                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 41470
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                            Hey sleazy..

                                                                            Remeber about a year or so ago your site being hijacked?? It was the Sexocean network boys sending your traffic to some video site.. They were somehow using sites with the sextracker counter on em to manipulate your traffic..

                                                                            Now that wasnt in any way due to the actions of sextracker was it? It was the punks who we assumed to be sexocean right??

                                                                            I mean there are still some who insist sextracker had something to do with it all along..

                                                                            I, just like you try not to believe it. But it was always in the back of my mind..

                                                                            That was some wicked shit going on about a year ago with sites with the sextracker counter on em. I even took mine down for about a year and just recently put mine back up..

                                                                            Now this shap thread has me thinking... Are the two stories here unrelated or is this just all one big related issue?

                                                                            the shit that happend had NOTHING to do with sextracker - the sexocean idiots were targeting sites with the the sextracker counter though. I can guarentee you sextracker had NOTHING to do with it. I'm 100% confident there about that.
                                                                            This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                            Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                              • Screaming
                                                                                I can change this!!!!!
                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                • 18972
                                                                                #70
                                                                                yea just read about that crazy.

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                                                                                  • SleazyDream
                                                                                    I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 41470
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                    Ok I remember the situation now..

                                                                                    Someone was spreading spyware.. The technology behind it was it was triggered when a surfer hit a site that had the sextracker counter on it..

                                                                                    It was not the sextracker counter persay doing the action.. It was the adware-exploit that was previously installed via some other site or method.. Then when it was installed, whenever the surfer would hit a site with the tracker on it, it would hijack the surfer taking em to the popups or the dialers..

                                                                                    At the time it was written on that sextracker was just as much a victum of this act as we were..

                                                                                    I still till this day feel that they had nothing to do with this..

                                                                                    But yeah Ive heard stories, and of other unrelated things.. That Bama guy is a smart fucker. If he's programing for Sextracker's counter the sky is the limit.

                                                                                    But truthfully that hijacking issue some years back was just way too blatant and no way would Sextracker involve themselves in that..

                                                                                    As if they have ever touched adware in the past, yeah wouldnt suprise me.. But to what extent?? And is it really to the extent of concern??

                                                                                    Probably not.
                                                                                    reality is - MOST major companies have touched adware. Most major companies have done lots of things that today would be questionable. The real question is do they do it today - i don't believe sextracker would ever touch their counter or hosting with adware and stand behind them on that cause I believe in them and continue to use them for counter and hosting.
                                                                                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                      • boneprone
                                                                                        Hall Of Fame
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 34415
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                        the shit that happend had NOTHING to do with sextracker - the sexocean idiots were targeting sites with the the sextracker counter though. I can guarentee you sextracker had NOTHING to do with it. I'm 100% confident there about that.

                                                                                        Yep im sure too.
                                                                                        ST was just a target for em.

                                                                                        Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                                        Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                                        http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                                                        Learn about it kids.

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                                                                                          • SCORE Ralph
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                            • 2090
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            bump... looking forward to your follow up post, Shap.
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                                                                                              • BradShaw
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                                • 7840
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                cough chough - remembers somes who's name started with 'C' and ended with 'O'

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                                                                                                  • QuaWee
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                                    • 5791
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    I have never used SexTracker but I do use SexCounter.com because it's an invisible counter, has a nice interface, and its backed by the people from Videosz/Deluxepass/C h o o p a
                                                                                                    i luv mainstream

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                                                                                                      • Shap
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                        • 8313
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Hey Ralph. Still no news. I thought Bode would post by now. I'm guessing they are opting to stay quiet on the matter.

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                                                                                                          • s9ann0
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                                                            • 4873
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            I guess no one cares?

                                                                                                            I mean they can't have spyware in their counter its in the dialer

                                                                                                            and you really think anyone is surprised dialers are full of spyware ?

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                                                                                                              • kush
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                • 3382
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                bump for an interesting thread

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                                                                                                                  • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                    • 32492
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                    Doc I agree. So far I see 5 sponsors that have stepped up and said they are 100% against this.

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                                                                                                                    make that 6 bro!

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                                                                                                                      • Toker
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                        • 891
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                        Mickey, your post really says alot about our industry. If that is the case then we really are a lowlife scumbag industry and the goverment should come in and regulate things for us.

                                                                                                                        We are in an industry where making money is so easy. We all make way more than we would in any another industry. Instead of being happy with that, the greedy bastards go out and try to fuck over our surfers even more. It's the same old shit with this biz. A bunch of lowlifes greedy pricks that are raping the surfer, getting rich and leaving somebody else (the honest webmasters) to clean up the mess they've caused.

                                                                                                                        Why doesn't someone post a list of all the sponsors/companies using spyware and shit. I personally will be more than happy to ban them and their products across all my sites. I'm here for the long run and I'm here to treat our surfers fairly the way I'd like to be treated.
                                                                                                                        Because it's a waste of time.
                                                                                                                        One of the worse things to hit adult sites in years and what's caused
                                                                                                                        more surfers to stop looking for porn than anything else is the XXXtoolbar.
                                                                                                                        Gamacash not only pushes it to it's affils but owns the company that writes it
                                                                                                                        and it's been on the boards for a year and people still get it.
                                                                                                                        At least they took it off their main affil signup page when they were exposed.
                                                                                                                        PeaceAlive and kicking

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                                                                                                                          • Digibucks
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                            • 1899
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Sextracker are up to there neck in it! They are not inocent at all! I took there counters of my page cause of all this bullshit. You guys should check out netponds point of view on this as well.

                                                                                                                            "sextracker have nothing to do with it"

                                                                                                                            BULLSHIT
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                                                                                                                              • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                :glugglug
                                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                • 26118
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                So long as thehun and worldsex use Sextracker, everyone else will also. People do nothing but copy one another in this industry. If the top 10 at sextracker stopped using sextracker, then you'd start to see some change.

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                                                                                                                                  • Bosco4y2k3
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                    • 113
                                                                                                                                    #83

                                                                                                                                    I love spyware. I make 29.00 every time I take it off someones computer and usually end up with a 150.00 sale installing a firewall or tweeking a system out.
                                                                                                                                    I can tell you I seriously doubt that surfer ever goes back to that site again.

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                                                                                                                                      • Hornydog4cooter
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                        • 2859
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        interesting...

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                                                                                                                                          • NastyNed
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                            • 119
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                                                                            Anyhow, yeah ive been back and forth on this issue personally when it comes to that tracker..
                                                                                                                                            The only reason I use it really is for that top 20 ranking placement. I dont really use it to track or give me data.. Its never really been accurate for me.

                                                                                                                                            Its more of just an advertisement showing off how big your dick is really and adding Value to your advertisers..

                                                                                                                                            I dont have advertisers or paid spots so I really dont need the thing..

                                                                                                                                            Im trying to think of why else I use it.. Other than to balance the fact I have a small cock.. Its kinda like the Corvette effect I guess.

                                                                                                                                            This thread makes ya think.
                                                                                                                                            Yes it does... well put!
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