What do those folks buy? They are hotlinking me but they are also generating about 6k of 404 traffic a day. Any ideas? Hot link protect to drive them off or leave it alone and try and convert the freeloaders?
1/2 of my 404 traffic is Fusker.Leww
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you should give freeloaders things they want... i would try referring them to the free item sites, you could possibly get something out of it, but i doubt they will pay for anything...ICQ me for any programming projects - Agency quality work for non-agency prices
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Good ole fusker lewww people. I hope they hotlink every fucking gallery I have online.Comment
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The traffic is useless. If you dig deeper, you will find that they are not seeing your gallery, only the pics from the gallery. They don't see your advertising. Plus, you can't redirect them. (You can't redirect an image, just an html page).
What I did is put a command in my htaccess file to substitute all images called by fusker with another hotlink image. You can still make money with this. Make the image an ad for your site. And then add some kind of wording the indicates that the surfer must type the url into his browser's address box.
Otherwise, you are simply providing free images to fusker, with no chance of making a penny.Comment
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I redirected my 404 traffic to Adult action cam. The referrer list is all fusker. Going back on the link I can see why. They number the pics in sequence. I do not do this so pic 123 is not next to 124 so there are gaps. The people look in the gaps.
123 pic
124 no pic
125 no pic
126 pic
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Luckily for me, I didn't take the hun's advice and I kept my watermarks on my pics. One time, he said that I could get accepted if I took off the watermarks and I was like fuck that.Originally posted by slapassWhy do you like them?
So now. every picture of mine that is hotlinked has my domain on it anyway, therefore it's free advertising.Comment
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Cool but not useful for me. I should go in and mass renumber the pictures.Originally posted by BVFLuckily for me, I didn't take the hun's advice and I kept my watermarks on my pics. One time, he said that I could get accepted if I took off the watermarks and I was like fuck that.
So now. every picture of mine that is hotlinked has my domain on it anyway, therefore it's free advertising.
The other question that comes up is why is this ok?Comment
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If I can redirect their request ot them, why can't i redirect it to a paysite?Originally posted by RawAlexIt's free advertising to people who aren't going to pay anyway. Fusker is a blight on the adult industry.
Want some real fun? Redirect all their requests back to them... Let them generate a page each time. Their servers will melt.
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I used to be able to mass de-list their stuff, but they've put a character recognition thing on their site that you have to fill out in order to remove a gallery, so removing thousands at a time is impossible.
I'd love to see thieir shit go away.Comment
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Hmmm.seems that no one wants to take my suggestion. Oh well, you can continue to let them slow down your servers by serving up thousands of images...hoping that that one out of a thousand surfers will then try to go directly to your site..resulting in a 404. Or you can reread my suggestion, and make sure EVERY fusker visitor sees an ad for your site...and use a lot less bandwidth.
Oh why oh why do I bother giving advice. It seems much easier to let most of you muddle about in your own mediocraty.Comment
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I can't track the ACC sales that well but last month I made $40 with AFF on this traffic. My idea was to increase the amount and hurt them. They assume that there are imagess in between so what if I number mine 50 apart? a 12 pic gallery would load 600 sections. Now their bandwith is getting used and I am getting more hits to my sposnor.Originally posted by 49thParallelHmmm.seems that no one wants to take my suggestion. Oh well, you can continue to let them slow down your servers by serving up thousands of images...hoping that that one out of a thousand surfers will then try to go directly to your site..resulting in a 404. Or you can reread my suggestion, and make sure EVERY fusker visitor sees an ad for your site...and use a lot less bandwidth.
Oh why oh why do I bother giving advice. It seems much easier to let most of you muddle about in your own mediocraty.
But otherwise I am going to use your idea in addition.Comment
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That is what I do alsoOriginally posted by RawAlexIt's free advertising to people who aren't going to pay anyway. Fusker is a blight on the adult industry.
Want some real fun? Redirect all their requests back to them... Let them generate a page each time. Their servers will melt.
Alex
It's a waste of time and effort to try to send their traffic to anything. It's a free loader site that will never buy anything, so send them their BW right back to them.
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If you decide to go the htaccess method, here's the best way to do it. This will load a new image for all of the fusker sites, not just fusker.lewww. Depending on your server, you may not need the first 2 lines below.
Options +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} .*.fusker* [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jpg|jpeg|bmp)$ http://www.yourdomain.com/hotlink.gif [R,NC]Comment
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Using this logic, then TGP and search engine traffic would also be useless. How many people do you know that initially go to the web looking to find a pay site? Almost all traffic starts as freeloader traffic. You then have to use your best marketing pitch to convert them into purchasers.Originally posted by AfrinThat is what I do also
It's a waste of time and effort to try to send their traffic to anything. It's a free loader site that will never buy anything, so send them their BW right back to them. 
And again I stress, you can not redirect images. You can, however serve up a "hotlink" image. So, as I stated before, 99.9% of the bandwidth will still be from your server. And yep, you may get 1 out of 1,000 visitors who will then try to see what else is on your domain, resulting in the 404. But the other 999 will simply see your entire gallery, free of advertising...served up from YOUR server.
Oh, this makes my head hurt....Comment
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Awesome and what happens if I do not have an image in that spot?Originally posted by 49thParallelIf you decide to go the htaccess method, here's the best way to do it. This will load a new image for all of the fusker sites, not just fusker.lewww. Depending on your server, you may not need the first 2 lines below.
Options +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} .*.fusker* [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jpg|jpeg|bmp)$ http://www.yourdomain.com/hotlink.gif [R,NC]Comment
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It will just load a red x. It won't redirect the page to your 404 page, although it would be nice if it did. The only way you can get a image to go to a 404 is if the surfer actually types in his address bar http://www.yourdomain.com/image.jpg and image.jpg doesn't exist.Originally posted by slapassAwesome and what happens if I do not have an image in that spot?Comment
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Awesome well it is all in place lets see if I generate some typeins to my other site and so more 404.Originally posted by 49thParallelIt will just load a red x. It won't redirect the page to your 404 page, although it would be nice if it did. The only way you can get a image to go to a 404 is if the surfer actually types in his address bar http://www.yourdomain.com/image.jpg and image.jpg doesn't exist.
And who says GFY is just surfers with nothing to share.Comment
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No problem! But don't celebrate to much..overall GFY is still a place filled with bitching and complaining..and very little in the way of useful information. For real info, GFY shall remain on the very bottom of my list of resources.Originally posted by slapassAwesome well it is all in place lets see if I generate some typeins to my other site and so more 404.
And who says GFY is just surfers with nothing to share.Comment
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If you can't make money from the traffic and just want to make things unpleasant for the freeloaders, create a gigantic image (say, 5,000x5,000 pixels) and fill it in all white. The image will still be small in filesize (also, the browser won't download the image over and over again) but will wreck the freeloaders' experiences.
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Dude this is really sweet! I am seeing typeins. I am promoting a very low volume domain so the upswing is noticable. I will let everyone know if this works out.Originally posted by 49thParallelNo problem! But don't celebrate to much..overall GFY is still a place filled with bitching and complaining..and very little in the way of useful information. For real info, GFY shall remain on the very bottom of my list of resources.
Anyone know what I change to make the htaccess work for all sites that hotlink me?Comment
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todd hit me up. babes.coolios.net raped one of my sites.Originally posted by slapassDude this is really sweet! I am seeing typeins. I am promoting a very low volume domain so the upswing is noticable. I will let everyone know if this works out.
Anyone know what I change to make the htaccess work for all sites that hotlink me?
i just fixed it.
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Just experimenting here with image redirects....
this image does not exist on the domain heatcam.com, inserting it into the page anyway
ok and now making a link to it
http://blah.heatcam.com/gfy.jpgComment
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Originally posted by MrPheerJust experimenting here with image redirects....
this image does not exist on the domain heatcam.com, inserting it into the page anyway
ok and now making a link to it
http://blah.heatcam.com/gfy.jpg
cool , did you redirect or use php ?hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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403 + .htaccess... bye-bye fuskerOriginally posted by MattOI used to be able to mass de-list their stuff, but they've put a character recognition thing on their site that you have to fill out in order to remove a gallery, so removing thousands at a time is impossible.
I'd love to see thieir shit go away.Last edited by thonglife; 01-30-2005, 04:45 PM.Comment
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mcpheer figure out how to throw him to a paysite on image hotlink and these free hotlink sites will be golden
BTW here is what I ended up with:
Options All -Indexes
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yourdomain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yourdomain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|png|bmp|exe|zip|swf|mp3|rar)$ http://www.yourdomain.com/banners/Broken.gif [R,NC]
Works so it is very cool.Comment
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Originally posted by sexdwarfyou should give freeloaders things they want... i would try referring them to the free item sites, you could possibly get something out of it, but i doubt they will pay for anything...
SHHH... stop giving away all the good ideas.
Although it is brilliant because these people dont understand in free trials if you have to have your credit card verified.
But this free****.com doesnt ask for a CC when the register.Care about me?
Who?
Me!
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I'm not sure what my SE script would do if it tried to load an image from a domain that was a 404 instead of an image redirect... but I'm about to find outOriginally posted by slapassmcpheer figure out how to throw him to a paysite on image hotlink and these free hotlink sites will be golden
BTW here is what I ended up with:
Options All -Indexes
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yourdomain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yourdomain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|png|bmp|exe|zip|swf|mp3|rar)$ http://www.yourdomain.com/banners/Broken.gif [R,NC]
Works so it is very cool.
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Care to share? Or am I going to have to hunt this one down myself? Pretty neat trick.Originally posted by MrPheerJust experimenting here with image redirects....
this image does not exist on the domain heatcam.com, inserting it into the page anyway
ok and now making a link to it
http://blah.heatcam.com/gfy.jpgComment
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Did the same thing a few weeks ago. Went back and checked. My links were gone. Of course I knew that from my stats report.Originally posted by DonovanPhillipsI emailed them and asked them to remove anything relating to my domains. They claim that they have done so and that my domains are not allowed anymore.
When I saw that they were eating 3% of my bandwidth for one site, I got pissed. Now it would appear I could of made some bank with code in my htacsess.Comment
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http://leww.fusker.com/ is really fucked up now. Most of the images are red-x or a message pops that says the image has been removed. Looks like most webmasters have taken note of them.
Think Leww has been fuckered
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It's been said a few times in this thread but half of you are not absorbing it... so I'll make it crystal clear for you.
You can redirect an img src, but only to another image. The browser is expecting an image and will not render HTML.
Here, I'll prove it, img src'ing yahoo:
Depending on your browser you'll either see a red X, broken pic, or nothing at all. You cannot img src HTML and expect it to display.
Thank you for listening and understanding.
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You have to remember, this isn't traffic - they are loading images, not pages. If they were loading pages, you could live with it.
So you just redirect image hotlinks back to random pages on their domain (just use the file name they requested as a page... that is enough to generate a 404 on their end). So when they request 100 images from your server, they have to handle 100 404 requests.
Fusker as a service needs to die.
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I've decided to post a free tip because hotlinking sucks... use this script to send back a 401 result (authentication failed/password required). This will pop up a password prompt.
<?php
$msg = "Visit www.mydomain.com for the real pics";
header("HTTP/1.0 401 authreq");
header("WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=\"$msg\"");
die;
?>
Use your htaccess to redirect hotlinks to that script. Replace $msg with whatever text you want to appear in the password prompt box.
Enjoy.Comment
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That's interesting.Originally posted by rowanI've decided to post a free tip because hotlinking sucks... use this script to send back a 401 result (authentication failed/password required). This will pop up a password prompt.
<?php
$msg = "Visit www.mydomain.com for the real pics";
header("HTTP/1.0 401 authreq");
header("WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=\"$msg\"");
die;
?>
Use your htaccess to redirect hotlinks to that script. Replace $msg with whatever text you want to appear in the password prompt box.
Enjoy.Comment
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Wow. I must say that I am surprised by how many webmasters followed this thread and implemented .htaccess. Even a couple of days ago, you could go to fusker and 99% of the galleries showed pics. Now, it's about 1/2 pics and 1/2 red x's or advertising messages.
And slapass, the method for .htaccess you have chosen will work. Just so others know the difference between the htaccess I provided and the one you listed...mine is used to block specific domains, such as fusker. Yours prevents hotlinking from any and all sites, except for your own domain.
The only reason I prefer my method better is that some TGPs pull a thumbnail from your gallery, and display it on their front page, which then links to your full gallery, complete with your advertising. I don't want to block this legitimate use of images.Comment



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