non USA webmasters... do you use foreign US dollar accounts?

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  • rowan
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 17393

    #1

    non USA webmasters... do you use foreign US dollar accounts?

    I deposit about 5-10 US dollar cheques per week into a standard $AUD bank account. I called my bank today and asked about foreign currency accounts, and it looks like opening a US dollar account can actually save me a bit of money in the long run. The reason? They have different conversion rates depending on the deposit type - teletype transfers (wires) get the best rate, cheques get the second best rate, and cash gets the lowest conversion rate. The transfer from the $USD account to the $AUD account is converted at the teletype rate, which means I can effectively deposit cheques at the TT rate!

    For example, using current rates...

    $USD3000 worth of cheques direct into $AUD account
    check exchange rate 0.7856
    =$AUD3818.74
    minus $AUD10 fee
    =$AUD3808.74

    $USD3000 worth of cheques into $USD account
    no conversion performed at deposit
    =$USD3000
    minus $AUD15 fee ($USD11.57)
    =$USD2988.43
    then I transfer immediately to my $AUD account...
    T/T exchange rate 0.7802
    =$AUD3830.34 ($AUD21.60 more)

    It's not a huge difference, but it is a difference. The other big advantage of a US dollar account is that I can watch the rates and choose exactly when the best time to transfer is.

    Does anyone else here use a foreign US dollar account? I'm going to open one next week and see how it goes. Now I just have to find out how/if this complicates my taxes.
  • pornstar2pac
    Omaha Hi/Lo
    • Nov 2003
    • 17380

    #2
    I always get confused about other countries currency


    it should all be US dollars everywhere
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    • Spunky
      I need a beer
      • Jun 2002
      • 133978

      #3
      Yes it is a very good idea due to the flucuation of our dollar

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      • rowan
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2002
        • 17393

        #4
        Hmmm, the difference on the example I worked out is less than 0.5% Maybe it's not worth the extra hassle...

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        • bigang04
          Registered User
          • Jan 2005
          • 40

          #5
          I;m selling all the USD dollars and buying EURO!

          HA!

          in approx 2 yrs it will be the DOW 5000 ..... thanks BUSH ( you fucking donkey! )

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          • The Other Steve
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2001
            • 2106

            #6
            Rowan - our accountant who seemed to be fairly switched on told us that the easiest way to deal with overseas currency that was earned but not brought into the country was not to declare it until it did hit the country.

            Of course the down side to that is that if you pay any of your expenses from that money in whatever overseas account it might be in, you can't then claim it as a business deduction come tax time.

            Did your bank tell you what the amount was that they required you to deposit into that foreign currency account just to open it?
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            • NewbieNudes
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 940

              #7
              ROWAN - what's ur IM details

              Rowan I too am in Aussie and wanted to talk au related biz stuff with you - whats ur AIM ICQ or MSN?
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              • NewbieNudes
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                • Jan 2003
                • 940

                #8
                Rowan

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                • TheMob
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8584

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                  I always get confused about other countries currency


                  it should all be US dollars everywhere
                  hehe, a world currency would be great

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                  • shima
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2003
                    • 1753

                    #10
                    Rowan, stick with Epassporte, forget the troubles ;)

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                    • Matt_WildCash
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1699

                      #11
                      Yep we use US$ funds accounts for Wildcash. We get money in from processors and keep it in US funds then pay out to affilates promptly via wire transfer, epasporte & paypal. works good and stops us from losing $1000's in bank % fees of double converting the money

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                      • rowan
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        Originally posted by shima
                        Rowan, stick with Epassporte, forget the troubles ;)
                        I've said it in another thread already, but epass has a worse conversion rate than my banks cash rate. In other words, from most $ in my hand to least...

                        1. wires (will get this rate with a US dollar account)
                        2. cheques (currently get this rate with my AU dollar account)
                        3. cash
                        4. epass


                        The Other Steve: At the moment my income is declared as the Australian dollars my bank pays, because the USD cheques have no fixed value until they're deposited and converted... setting up a US dollar account is likely to complicate things, since I'll be doing that extra section on overseas income/investments or similar.

                        Here's the info I got from Westpac about the account:

                        - No setup fee or minimum balance.
                        - $AUD15 fee for deposit of up to 8 cheques of the same currency and payee. Deposits are converted on the spot but take 7 working days to end up in the account.
                        - $AUD8 for inbound teletype transfers
                        - $AUD50/mo maintenance fee if equivalent average AUD balance is between $0-$5000 (I didn't get the other rates, but the fee is obviously lower for higher balances)
                        - Transfer between US dollar account and a standard AUD Westpac account is done at teletype rates (see http://www.westpac.com.au/forms/fore...rm&StartPage=2 )
                        - No online or automated phone banking access to the account. To find out your balance or any other details you have to call during business hours and ask a human...

                        I'm not sure whether the small conversion advantage outweighs the disadvantages and the extra work that will be required to get AUD funds into my account. Since there's no opening minimum it won't hurt to try.

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                        • rickholio
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 1914

                          #13
                          I considered retaining a USD account at RBOC for a while, but it never really yielded any benefits for the cost, plus the downside of inertia (leaving the money parked in the account rather than getting it converted on receipt of payment) would have resulted in a substantial drop in my real revenue.

                          If I did a lot of business travel to the US or paid a lot of bills/made purchases in US funds, it'd probably have more use to me. As it is right now, the faster I can pull USD and switch it to CDN, the more money I make.
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                          • Dalai lama
                            Strength and Honor
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 16540

                            #14
                            USD - EURO is about 30% difference

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                            • Lifer
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 871

                              #15
                              I just keep an account in the US as well as Europe.

                              When in that states, I use the US... or when I buy US.

                              You can always get it out through a money machine if you need it.
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                              • rowan
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Mar 2002
                                • 17393

                                #16
                                Originally posted by rickholio
                                I considered retaining a USD account at RBOC for a while, but it never really yielded any benefits for the cost, plus the downside of inertia (leaving the money parked in the account rather than getting it converted on receipt of payment) would have resulted in a substantial drop in my real revenue.

                                If I did a lot of business travel to the US or paid a lot of bills/made purchases in US funds, it'd probably have more use to me. As it is right now, the faster I can pull USD and switch it to CDN, the more money I make.
                                I'm in a similar situation. I have a home loan which has a feature called an offset account - any balance in your savings account is deducted from what you owe on the loan when calculating the interest. This has two direct benefits...

                                1. It's effectively the same as a savings account paying 6.77% interest.
                                2. The deduction is seamless and applied before interest is calculated, which means that the interest 'earned' doesn't count as income (it's a saving rather than earning), and is therefore not taxed.

                                As an example: if I parked $20k in there for a year I would make/save $1396 in interest (including compounding). If that was fully taxed then I'd have to give the govt $656.12 of that... but it's not taxed at all so I get the full $1396.

                                So it's definitely in my best interests (ha! ha!) to get those USD funds into my AUD account as quickly as possible. A better currency conversion rate along the way helps, which is the point of this thread.

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                                • Rui
                                  web
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 9533

                                  #17
                                  I'm loosing so much money from Dollar to Euro convertions...its fucking unbelivable dammit

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                                  • thaifan99
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 3029

                                    #18
                                    1 US$ account with bank of china................and epassporte for ATM .
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