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  • Young
    Bland for life
    • Nov 2004
    • 10468

    #1

    Review Sites = New TGP

    More worthless traffic for programs. I can think of 3 quality review sites out of 100's....and there are 100's more coming.

    There really is no point to this thread other than to say...get creative. sheep.
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  • andrej_NDC
    Registered User
    • May 2004
    • 7760

    #2
    I get sales from much more review sites than just 3, the traffic is far from worthless.

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    • DamageX
      Marketing & Strategy
      • Jun 2001
      • 14293

      #3
      That's bullshit. Traffic quality on review sites should be much higher than on pretty much any TGP, due to a few factors that I will leave up to you to figure out.
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      • Tempest
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        • May 2004
        • 10217

        #4
        You guys are missing the point of what he's saying.

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        • andrej_NDC
          Registered User
          • May 2004
          • 7760

          #5
          Originally posted by Tempest
          You guys are missing the point of what he's saying.
          no, Im not...its better 1M surfers rotate on 1000 review sites than on 1000 TGPs

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          • Tempest
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • May 2004
            • 10217

            #6
            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
            no, Im not...its better 1M surfers rotate on 1000 review sites than on 1000 TGPs
            I think you're assuming that those 1000s of review sites will remain strictly review sites...

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            • beemk
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              • Jan 2002
              • 20829

              #7
              Originally posted by Young
              More worthless traffic for programs.
              so you must have seen a lot of different review sites conversion ratios. so enlighten us on what these shitty conversion ratios are.
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              • DBS.US
                Geo Cities
                • Aug 2003
                • 11843

                #8
                get creative. sheep
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                • andrej_NDC
                  Registered User
                  • May 2004
                  • 7760

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tempest
                  I think you're assuming that those 1000s of review sites will remain strictly review sites...
                  Even if those are partly tgps. It can't hurt, when ppl learn to look for paysites rather than for free content.

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                  • vvq
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 2732

                    #10
                    Review sites do convert better. But in the long run joins from review sites don't convert to full and rebill as long as joins from a TGP site. There are exceptions, but if you sample conversions/rebills over a long period of time from both sources, you'll see TGP joins are more profitable than review site joins.

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                    • HairToStay
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 1521

                      #11
                      Some review sites that have been around for years and years were innovators, not sheep.

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                      • Dwreck
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                        • Nov 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by vvq
                        Review sites do convert better. But in the long run joins from review sites don't convert to full and rebill as long as joins from a TGP site. There are exceptions, but if you sample conversions/rebills over a long period of time from both sources, you'll see TGP joins are more profitable than review site joins.

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                        • fris
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 55701

                          #13
                          my bud just has a review section on his site, and for most of the paysites he has 1st or 2nd page google. and se traffic converts awesome, so i dont know what you are talking about.
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                          • AmeliaG
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 10664

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vvq
                            Review sites do convert better. But in the long run joins from review sites don't convert to full and rebill as long as joins from a TGP site. There are exceptions, but if you sample conversions/rebills over a long period of time from both sources, you'll see TGP joins are more profitable than review site joins.
                            I think that is pretty accurate, but I love getting joins from both. I don't think they have the same surfers entirely, so it is good to get review traffic and good to get TGP traffic. The more, the better.
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                            • HorseShit
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                              • Dec 2004
                              • 17513

                              #15
                              Originally posted by vvq
                              Review sites do convert better. But in the long run joins from review sites don't convert to full and rebill as long as joins from a TGP site. There are exceptions, but if you sample conversions/rebills over a long period of time from both sources, you'll see TGP joins are more profitable than review site joins.
                              so a surfer knows that since he's signing up from a referral from a review site he won't stay a member of that paysite as long? interesting

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                              • Young
                                Bland for life
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 10468

                                #16
                                I can think of a handful of quality review sites and a search on google will bring up 100's.

                                beemk...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that most TGP's click thrus and conversions suck. Why not apply the same science to cookie cutter review sites? Thebestporn.com RabbitsReviews.com and a couple of others are an exception.

                                fris...a review "section" is completely different from a review site. FreeOnes is a pretty good example of a site with a pretty good review section.

                                Oh and OK...I have to agree that Blogs are the new TGP's but Review sites are a close second.
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                                • vvq
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                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 2732

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dwreck
                                  I didnt know that. Thank you
                                  There are definite exceptions. But do you really want bookmarkers from review sites joining your sites? The only kind of surfer I can imagine bookmarking a review site would be the ones constantly joining sites, quitting sites, joining sites, quitting sites. Good for the review site operators, not so good for the affiliate programs paying $30 per join on a surfer that is most likely isn't going to stick around long. They're not bookmarking review sites to come back for free porn like they would with a TGP.

                                  A surfer that frequents TGPs probably doesn't join paysites very often. That's why they're surfing the TGPs enjoying the 15 second clips. One day they see a girl that really sparks their interest. They HAVE to see more of her or want to see more of the scene they just saw. So cock in hand they join your paysite. And now they're introduced to something they're not used to seeing. Full videos. High resolution. Huge selections. Feeds. Pictures. Cams. everything. Because this is new to them, they're more likely to convert to full and stick around.

                                  A surfer that frequents review sites on the other hand... They've seen what paysites have to offer. They've got a harddrive full of videos they've ripped from other sites. The bells and whistles of a paysite aren't new to them. They know the tricks. They'll cancel their trial before they even login to the site.

                                  Again, there are exceptions. You really have to handle review sites on an individual basis to see how they perform. If the surfer comes to the review site from a search engine and joins, that's good. If they're a bookmarker that tries a new site every week, that's bad.

                                  That's my take on review sites vs tgp sites.

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                                  • HorseShit
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                                    • Dec 2004
                                    • 17513

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by vvq
                                    There are definite exceptions. But do you really want bookmarkers from review sites joining your sites? The only kind of surfer I can imagine bookmarking a review site would be the ones constantly joining sites, quitting sites, joining sites, quitting sites. Good for the review site operators, not so good for the affiliate programs paying $30 per join on a surfer that is most likely isn't going to stick around long. They're not bookmarking review sites to come back for free porn like they would with a TGP.

                                    A surfer that frequents TGPs probably doesn't join paysites very often. That's why they're surfing the TGPs enjoying the 15 second clips. One day they see a girl that really sparks their interest. They HAVE to see more of her or want to see more of the scene they just saw. So cock in hand they join your paysite. And now they're introduced to something they're not used to seeing. Full videos. High resolution. Huge selections. Feeds. Pictures. Cams. everything. Because this is new to them, they're more likely to convert to full and stick around.

                                    A surfer that frequents review sites on the other hand... They've seen what paysites have to offer. They've got a harddrive full of videos they've ripped from other sites. The bells and whistles of a paysite aren't new to them. They know the tricks. They'll cancel their trial before they even login to the site.

                                    Again, there are exceptions. You really have to handle review sites on an individual basis to see how they perform. If the surfer comes to the review site from a search engine and joins, that's good. If they're a bookmarker that tries a new site every week, that's bad.

                                    That's my take on review sites vs tgp sites.
                                    some interesting points

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                                    • beemk
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                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 20829

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Young
                                      beemk...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that most TGP's click thrus and conversions suck. Why not apply the same science to cookie cutter review sites? Thebestporn.com RabbitsReviews.com and a couple of others are an exception.
                                      assumption is the mother of all fuckups.
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                                      • Young
                                        Bland for life
                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 10468

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by beemk
                                        assumption is the mother of all fuckups.
                                        ok...go start another top list then....or maybe a warez site....or even better maybe a new myspace.

                                        all i'm saying is that this industry lacks originality. while mainstream has gone the "web 2.0" route...adult will lag behind...dying industry.

                                        surfers are getting smarter by the day. the future customers are all internet savvy. in 5-10 years you will no longer be catering to 50 year old joe blow who saw the invention of the internet and computer and remembers a world without it.

                                        You're going to be trying to sell this stuff to people who have grown up online with pop up after pop up and scam after scam.

                                        those who are creative and innovate will survive...the rest...are a wrap
                                        Last edited by Young; 04-09-2006, 03:52 PM.
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                                        • fris
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 55701

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Young
                                          ok...go start another top list then....or maybe a warez site....or even better maybe a new myspace.

                                          all i'm saying is that this industry lacks originality. while mainstream has gone the "web 2.0" route...adult will lag behind...dying industry.

                                          surfers are getting smarter by the day. the future customers are all internet savvy. in 5-10 years you will no longer be catering to 50 year old joe blow who saw the invention of the internet and computer and remembers a world without it.

                                          You're going to be trying to sell this stuff to people who have grown up online with pop up after pop up and scam after scam.

                                          those who are creative and innovate will survive...the rest...are a wrap

                                          several people run review sites as a way to get se traffic, i am not talking about the review sites that every knows about, i am talking people with free sites having a review section, and their listing sends massive sales. its more of a surfer review site, no links to the actual sponsors.

                                          if someone can send 150 joins a pay period from his surfer review site, why not do it.
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                                          • Young
                                            Bland for life
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 10468

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by fris
                                            several people run review sites as a way to get se traffic, i am not talking about the review sites that every knows about, i am talking people with free sites having a review section, and their listing sends massive sales. its more of a surfer review site, no links to the actual sponsors.

                                            if someone can send 150 joins a pay period from his surfer review site, why not do it.
                                            true fris...thats why i said that freeones has a pretty decent review site.

                                            i'm just speaking about the lack of creativity in this industry.
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                                            • edgeprod
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                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 10019

                                              #23
                                              I can count the threads crying about random shit that are worthwhile on one hand. There are thousands already, with thousands more coming.

                                              Get creative. Sheep. BAAAAH!

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                                              • Nicky
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                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 30071

                                                #24
                                                wow, I need to start a review site

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                                                • vvq
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                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 2732

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Young
                                                  ok...go start another top list then....or maybe a warez site....or even better maybe a new myspace.

                                                  all i'm saying is that this industry lacks originality. while mainstream has gone the "web 2.0" route...adult will lag behind...dying industry.

                                                  surfers are getting smarter by the day. the future customers are all internet savvy. in 5-10 years you will no longer be catering to 50 year old joe blow who saw the invention of the internet and computer and remembers a world without it.

                                                  You're going to be trying to sell this stuff to people who have grown up online with pop up after pop up and scam after scam.

                                                  those who are creative and innovate will survive...the rest...are a wrap
                                                  this industry lacks creativity? tell that to the girls having 50 guys jerkoff onto their face at the same time.

                                                  how much more creative can adult get anyway? we're selling porn... there are only so many ways you can repackage it.

                                                  besides, copying what has already been done seems to work. just ask Google.

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                                                  • edgeprod
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                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 10019

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by vvq
                                                    besides, copying what has already been done seems to work. just ask Google.
                                                    Haha, I'm pretty sure he was just trolling -- I can't imagine this was a "real" thread ... the guy would have to be the SMALLEST player EVER to really believe this or campaign for it ... maybe not even in the business altogether.

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                                                    • Chris
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                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 27880

                                                      #27
                                                      i posted this same damn thing on netpond
                                                      wtf?
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                                                      • edgeprod
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                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                        • 10019

                                                        #28
                                                        He's a hack AND a troll, eh? LOL -- it's pretty funny, because everyone I have talked to has pretty much said the same thing. Guy lives in his mom's basement, and like every picks his fights through a keyboard.

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                                                        • Young
                                                          Bland for life
                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                          • 10468

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                          He's a hack AND a troll, eh? LOL -- it's pretty funny, because everyone I have talked to has pretty much said the same thing. Guy lives in his mom's basement, and like every picks his fights through a keyboard.
                                                          feelings hurt?.

                                                          what do i care about what other people think about me? especially internet people...haha

                                                          unlike you i have a life beyond this keyboard.
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                                                          • Young
                                                            Bland for life
                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                            • 10468

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Chris
                                                            i posted this same damn thing on netpond
                                                            wtf?
                                                            ya according to some in this thread im just trolling and have no clue what i'm talking about.

                                                            did your netpond thread go anywhere? i don't go there...
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                                                            • khs
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                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 1730

                                                              #31
                                                              sheep are like tgps
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                                                              • beemk
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                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 20829

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Young
                                                                ok...go start another top list then....or maybe a warez site....or even better maybe a new myspace.

                                                                all i'm saying is that this industry lacks originality. while mainstream has gone the "web 2.0" route...adult will lag behind...dying industry.

                                                                surfers are getting smarter by the day. the future customers are all internet savvy. in 5-10 years you will no longer be catering to 50 year old joe blow who saw the invention of the internet and computer and remembers a world without it.

                                                                You're going to be trying to sell this stuff to people who have grown up online with pop up after pop up and scam after scam.

                                                                those who are creative and innovate will survive...the rest...are a wrap
                                                                first you say the traffic is worthless, now the sites only lack originality? which one is it?
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                                                                • Young
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                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                  • 10468

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by beemk
                                                                  first you say the traffic is worthless, now the sites only lack originality? which one is it?
                                                                  My first post says get creative sheep...which infers what? no originality.... Learn how to fucking read. jesus fucking christ.

                                                                  just like tgp traffic there are sites with quality traffic...and then there is the rest that make up the dime a dozen. would you rather have tgpshack.com traffic? or hun traffic? I simply said that the abundance of review sites are only going to decrease the effectiveness of the traffic.
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                                                                  • media
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                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                    • 9853

                                                                    #34
                                                                    We get quite good traffic from people like The Best Porn and Rabbits Reviews, their reviews are a bit harsh sometimes, but overall the conversions are nice when the member knows exactly what they are getting..

                                                                    I wish more affiliates would take the time to find out how to sell a site like this...
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                                                                    • edgeprod
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                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 10019

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by beemk
                                                                      first you say the traffic is worthless, now the sites only lack originality? which one is it?
                                                                      Haha, the guy clearly is either A) making $50/year, or B) really stupid. Do you really think he REMEMBERS what he meant at the beginning, here?

                                                                      Remember, what does he "care about what other people think about" him? "especially internet people."

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                                                                      • edgeprod
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                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 10019

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by media
                                                                        I wish more affiliates would take the time to find out how to sell a site like this...
                                                                        Agreed. Why try to reinvent the wheel?

                                                                        I'll put up a review site just for your network, and we'll work together on getting the surfers a fair view of what they're getting "inside." ICQ me.

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                                                                        • 2HousePlague
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                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                          • 14572

                                                                          #37
                                                                          If the review is credible and trustworthy, there can be a considerbale value-add to the receiving sponsor, both qualitatively and quantitatively.



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                                                                          • beemk
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                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                            • 20829

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                            Haha, the guy clearly is either A) making $50/year, or B) really stupid. Do you really think he REMEMBERS what he meant at the beginning, here?

                                                                            Remember, what does he "care about what other people think about" him? "especially internet people."

                                                                            haha yeah no shit. i asked him to show stats to prove his claim on how review traffic converts so shitty, then he goes on a tangent about how they arent original. which i never doubted (most stuff isnt 100% original). then he goes on about how i cant read. idiots like that really arent worth arguing with.
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                                                                            • edgeprod
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                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 10019

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by beemk
                                                                              haha yeah no shit. i asked him to show stats to prove his claim on how review traffic converts so shitty, then he goes on a tangent about how they arent original. which i never doubted (most stuff isnt 100% original). then he goes on about how i cant read. idiots like that really arent worth arguing with.
                                                                              Nah, he's small fry -- everyone has said so. He was shitting in a few random threads I had started/participated in with garbage like "oh, I have a life!" "oh my god, I'm so cool," etc ... when people whip out shit like that unprompted, it's clearly the guilt they're feeling for being tools, and they're afraid they'll get called on it. They preemptively try to bat away things like that.

                                                                              Psychology 101 ... and amusing to boot.

                                                                              The best part is that he can't spell his way out of a paper bag. It's always funnier when someone tries to be high-minded, and fucks up simple words.

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                                                                              • abyss_al
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                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                • 15605

                                                                                #40
                                                                                the only people bitching are the ones who lose their place on se's, don't like competition, and retards like evilgeniuscash who are just plain stupid and think "Busty Amateur Boobs" term belongs to them

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                                                                                • Young
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                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                  • 10468

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  This thread needs a bump

                                                                                  Originally posted by Egomancer
                                                                                  Also if there is a request I will write a script that generates descriptions based on some templates - this way I can generate the 2000-4000 reviews needed for such a site in a matter of minutes. Before you say that it can not be done I will tell you that this is possible - we made someting similar for another project.
                                                                                  especially after that comment from a guy whose selling a automated review script.
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                                                                                  • Antonio
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                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                    • 14136

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    does anybody have a list of the 100s of review sites that you people are talking about in this thread????????

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                                                                                    • Rictor
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                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 12208

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      TGPs are focused on giving away thousands of free pictures and movies every day. Most review sites give away very little free content and are designed to convince a surfer to pay for their porn.

                                                                                      Also, review sites are expensive to run unless you steal your reviews (your site won't last long) or you buy your reviews on a non-exclusive basis (your site will get no traffic). Considering that Google loves paysite review sites because they're full of tons of original text...only sites that write their own reviews and update regularly will ever be successful.

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                                                                                      • xLaborJames
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                                                                                        • Apr 2006
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Rictor
                                                                                        TGPs are focused on giving away thousands of free pictures and movies every day. Most review sites give away very little free content and are designed to convince a surfer to pay for their porn.

                                                                                        Also, review sites are expensive to run unless you steal your reviews (your site won't last long) or you buy your reviews on a non-exclusive basis (your site will get no traffic). Considering that Google loves paysite review sites because they're full of tons of original text...only sites that write their own reviews and update regularly will ever be successful.
                                                                                        Well said! I could't agree with you more. I think exactly like tgps people are going to find the quickest way to cut corners and start pumping out crap that lacks quality. Its all about original text that is consistent and I can't see many people making a profit on a page that that needs new in depth material often without being able to invest the right amount of time/money.

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                                                                                        • Basic_man
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                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                          • 27360

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                          That's bullshit. Traffic quality on review sites should be much higher than on pretty much any TGP, due to a few factors that I will leave up to you to figure out.
                                                                                          That's pretty true!
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                                                                                          • Young
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                                                                                            • 10468

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                            That's bullshit. Traffic quality on review sites should be much higher than on pretty much any TGP, due to a few factors that I will leave up to you to figure out.
                                                                                            Originally posted by Basic_man
                                                                                            That's pretty true!
                                                                                            Yah now it is...but what happens when "Egomancer" unleashes his cookie cutter turnkey script that cranks out "4000 reviews in a couple of minutes" ?

                                                                                            Clutter, crap....seeps into traffic.
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                                                                                            • Young
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                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                              • 10468

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Every time someone asks about review sites I will bump this thread.

                                                                                              Sponsors beware...make sure the person requesting USERNAME/PASSWORDS to your sites has plenty of traffic to throw at it.

                                                                                              Review Sites seem to be the new "get rich quick" idea for noobs (ya..right)....taking over the place of TGP's
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                                                                                              • jayeff
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                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 2944

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Young
                                                                                                Review Sites seem to be the new "get rich quick" idea for noobs (ya..right)....taking over the place of TGP's
                                                                                                Whether we are talking about copycat pay sites or copycat traffic engines, experienced webmasters are the ones most likely to cause more than a blip on the radar. Sure, give it a while and any bandwagon will get loaded down with new webmasters too, but they are rarely the ones who have a lot of impact.

                                                                                                Which points to the flaw in most of what you have written in this thread. Traffic generating business models are not of themselves intrinsically good or bad, guaranteed to produce high conversions, low conversions, good retention or poor retention. There likely is some difference between a site trumpeting the word "free" and another which requires surfers to read text, but when the first handful of sites of a certain type appear, their traffic is relatively fresh. The biggest impact on traffic quality is once hundreds/thousands of sites are all pushing for visibility and most will inevitably be forced to circulate washed out traffic.

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                                                                                                • Mike D
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  We have been doing great with review traffic.
                                                                                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=631867
                                                                                                  I'm sure there are a few sham review sites out there, but we have had good experiences with most we have been dealing with so far.


                                                                                                  Mike......
                                                                                                  Mike D

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                                                                                                  • tenderobject
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    heh i bet a lot of surfers don't like reading reviews. want to rub one out for sure the quickest way LOL


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