Has anyone ever shot those girls flashing at Mardi Gras and used it as content?
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Yeah, that's cool for content. I don't have but I've seen it somewhere. -
LOL....I've been shot at Mardi Gras and used as content. Girls Gone Wild to be exact. Now I am careful about who shoots what for who when I am there.Originally posted by inthestars
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How the hell can you use it without documents?
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Dunno if any of you remember VegasLee but I believe he used to shoot Mardi Gras for their content site.
From what I understand there were lawsuits that determined no documentation was needed for PUBLIC nudity photos.If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.
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I have pics from Fantasy Fest. I understand that if the pics are taken outside they are good to use.
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I'd be interested in the legalities too.
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What do you need as far as model ids and releases?Originally posted by leg4 LIZZIE Comment
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I'm sure there's a fine line, though.Originally posted by vicki
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Originally posted by Sammy4u
thats good to hear i have tons of pics from fantasy fest i'm thinking of going again this year and shooting down there. i thought pics like that were PUBLIC domain but you can never be sure thats whats up atleast now i know for next time.Got Cam Models?
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From what I understand if its in a public place then you don't need any documentation and it doesn't matter if they turn out to be underage for the most part. How do you think Frank and GGW got out of trouble alot of times. I remember once they had filmed a underage girl on the streets I believe or in her car and later the father tried to sue but lost because it was in public.Comment
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What constitutes 'public'. I don't think it means out doors as suggested above.
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so full of shit and made up.Originally posted by infecto
sorry folks , this thread really shows who is an adult webmaster and who is not.
of course you need documents and there is no way in hell you can shoot just any girl you see flashing her tits in Mardi Gras and use it on sex site. i grew up there and can tell you half the girls ARE IN FACT UNDERAGE, so go shoot any girl and throw the pics up and make a gallery to submit - funny
expecially if underage.
keep talking out ass. half the girls in "flashing" shoots are *RINGERS* and are paid.
but none of you know this because most dont have a clue about shooting content, you still just a surfer.Last edited by Fletch XXX; 01-25-2005, 08:46 AM.
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Not even talking about underage people but people in general:
Isn't there some picture-right? In the Netherlands there is as far as I know which says no-one is allowed to take pictures of you without your permission. But I don't know how that's handled international or in the US.Comment
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i think it might be legal as long as you have the camera out in plain view. im sure theres lots of details to the law. i would contact a lawyer before filming anything there, not gfy.I host with VacaresComment
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As a veteran photojournalist... public means what you can see at eye level from any point on public land. if you have to shoot into someone's window or doorway or over a fence it get's sketchy. Upskirts are definitely illegal and if they are shot on government property I believe it is now a federal crime. And all of this doesn't stop you from being sued. There are a number of suits from idiots out in public parks with some girl they're cheating on their wife with. There was even a lawsuit brough on by a guy that was busted while supposedly getting workmans comp for an injury.Comment
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I filmed a couple of porn movies in N.O. during Mardi Gras before. I brought a few girls with me for the sex scenes back at the hotel, but I also shot a lot of public flashing with the 'civilian' girls in the street. It was quite an experience. You have to be careful though about what you film. And you will get a lot of different opinions about what you can expect to get away with depending on what attorney you talk to and how risk averse you want to be.Comment
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I believe the guys from www.Gorillagras.com shoots there content at Mardi Gras and other venues like that.Comment
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when was the last time you shoot content? at mardi gras?Originally posted by Fletch XXXComment
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i shoot content almost everyday.Originally posted by nnweb
mardi gras content? hell i have friends with bars there, we are MORE than up on the game.
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i was shooting videos in new orleans before i was even 18
dont ask me about mardi gras content.
my point was, you cannot just snap away pics of girls and put them up on a site.
you cant, anyone who says otherwise knows NOTHING
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i was also the person who helped launch the FIRST live cam in new orleans.
including the BOURBOCAM. we had to investigate LOTS of laws regarding female flashing, and having a live cam.
we were reading up on these laws when you kids were in highschool and we were setting up a t1 for Bourbocam. ;)
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bottom line is it is risky, seek a lawyer not gfy help.
anyway, off to lunch.
later.
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tons of people do it and get away with it.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
like someone said earlier GGW is one of them.Comment
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so do rapists.Originally posted by nnweb
go rape women then.
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soo funny.
you use GGW as an example, when the guy was BUSTED AND JAILED for UNDERAGE GIRLS
hahahahahahahaha
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im trying to break for lunch, but this thread is hilarious
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Good adviceOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
have a good lunch
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while he awaits trial, you go do same thing.
"The beauty of his scheme is that he doesn't have to pay his talent; he need only train his cameras on drunken young women glad to flash their naked breasts at Mardi Gras revelers, an American tradition whose origins remain mysterious. Of course, not everyone has applauded Francis' approach. He's awaiting trial on charges of racketeering and enticing underage girls to do grown-up things."
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So all of our scenes from Mardi Gras and springs break places ..for Dream Girls Videos are all paid models/RINGERS ? We have been selling these videos for over 10 years...... Take a step back and think about what you are talkingOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
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I don't think that I have ever seen an "expert" be so far off before. Fletch, you usually say some pretty smart things....but you are way off on this threadOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
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I believe he was busted for trying to solicit underage girls to ?engage in sexual activities? with him.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
and also they got them on camera telling him they where under 18 and he said it does not matter just say you are 18.
Read some of the judge?s opinions/responses in the GGW cases regarding underage girls especially the Mardi Gras ones.
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all i said was to think you can just snap pics and be protected by law is silly.Originally posted by jmc
ay what you will, that fact stands.
this is such a touchy subject its crazy to even attempt or begin to think of having a good discussion on the board about it.
impossible.
too many factors.
YES - you can go and take beach pics and if some hottie happens to be flashing in background awesome.
but you and i both know, you simply cannot FOCUS your CAMERA ON girls and snap away and expect to be "public domain"
thats all i was saying really.
soooo many noobs want to jump in get a camera snap some pics and expect to be GGW.
hahahahaha
GGW spends more in legal fees than the clowns with cameras (myself included) will see.
these people comparing themselves to GGW for sake of argument are the ones off base, not me. ;)
now,... back to beer and work.
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Speaking as one who shoots for dream girls sometimes, and has shot since 91 in clubs and bars, I'd say Fletch was erring on the side of caution, which is good. However his comment about ringers was totally off base. I've never used/shot a ringer once. If your doing the standard beads for a flash trick, your fine as long as your out on the street. GGW got in trouble for drugs and underage girls, and being stupid enough to tell girls to say they were over 18, and taping it. That was stupid.Comment
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falls under public nudity.. don't need the docs for it..Originally posted by Kard63In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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isnt ther also a law that you cant use it for an advertisement? i think i remember ggw losing a lawsuit because they used a girl on a commercial without her permission.Originally posted by James GreuelI host with VacaresComment
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i heard that exact same thing on a whole story about GGW & the lawsuits, but they also said that from now one, he has to get them sign a waver of consent.Originally posted by infecto
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This thread is halarious!
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Hi Fletch. First off much respect.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I am almost sure that filming flashing in public IS ok. Filming topless minors (if one happened to be in there) is ok too if they are not engaged in anything sexual or lascivious. The flashing of a breast of a minor, and I am almost positive of this, is not a crime if filmed and published as long as it's done with no reference, or intimation of sexual behavior, and not done deliberately to elicit sexual arousal. It does, however, raise some moral issues.
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not worth the risk unless you get the 2257 info from everybody don't wanna fuck up and get the underage ones in there or bubba might get a new love mateComment
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WTF....sorry but you got it all wrong manOriginally posted by infecto
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Isn't taking pictures of people and using it on a website illegal? Unless they sign a consent form, or whatever?
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it's different. they are somewhere where they KNOW it's full of guys with cameras. so they are aware of the risks.Originally posted by WankTankSEO Mogul | ICQ: 163671223Comment
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is showing your breasts in the city of New Orleans illegal? If so, then the girls are breaking the law...therefore, I don't think they can do anything. I don't think you can sue someone if what you are doing is against the law.Comment
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never shot it myself but i did see pics ;)
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