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  • Brad Gosse
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2002
    • 2616

    #51
    Looks like the jury has decided in this "court of our business peers" that you need to pay GTS and cut your losses.

    Oh yeah and I think you owe the 5th car payment too.
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    • rollinOn20s
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2004
      • 2006

      #52
      Thats really odd, cause my roommate, who is really good friends with the GTS crew, and ecpecially DH, as he went to his B-day party last night, has had nothing but good things to say about him, and or his business practices. So far it seems like you're the only one who has had lots of problems with them.
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      • psyko514
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        • Oct 2002
        • 22366

        #53
        I can't believe this thread was even started. Pay GTS what you owe them.

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        • MaDalton
          I am Amazing Content!
          • Feb 2004
          • 39861

          #54
          Originally posted by angelsofporn
          You can say that again brother.
          guess why i have the 42 as my custom title....

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          • spanky part 2
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2003
            • 1981

            #55
            I have yet to deal with a more professional bunch than GTS. They are always there to help and go overboard. They are about the only people you can say that about in the traffic biz.

            You bought a placement, not sales fool.

            Grow up or move to the wading end of the pool.

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            • DaLord
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2001
              • 3318

              #56
              Stupidity at its finest

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              • Sosa
                In Tushy Land
                • Oct 2002
                • 40149

                #57
                wow you bought a spot, it didn't convert. you still owe em money

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                • Choker
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 9024

                  #58
                  Very very rarely will I post in a thread about another broker, but I can't resist this one.

                  Dude you make a post complaining about GTS thinking DH will read it, which he did, then he gave you your money back. Here is the link of the old thread

                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...inum%2Flantern


                  Then right after that you spammed GTS in the same thread? Why would you spam him if you think his traffic is bad? Where is your conviction man? This point alone says a lot about you. $1500 that's cheap to buy someone. You must feel like a hooker after her very first trick. Used and bought, cheap I might add.

                  The car thing? LOL, try it and watch the repo man tow your car away.

                  As far as the spot, well you KNOW you owe him the money. BE A MAN and Pay your debt.
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                  • TheSenator
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 13330

                    #59
                    this is a good thread to use for future reference......bookmarking now.

                    I pay for traffic and it is sometime a hit or miss. One day I can get 20 sign ups and the next maybe 2. Buying traffic is not a short term deal that would yield results for future traffic purchases. The learning curve for purchasing traffic is a steady one and does not rise sharply.
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                    • Brad Mitchell
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 9813

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Platinum Lantern
                      I remember a man who was perfect and sinless..
                      they flogged him publicly
                      nailed him to a cross and put a crown of thorns on his head...
                      They even drew lots to see who would get to keep his clothing...
                      Hey but I got unbanned eventually....

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                      Sorry to hear things didn't work out. I can't say that I believe a refund was ever due, if there is one thing that can't be guaranteed it's traffic in our industry. I still don't see the point of making a thread on GFY for any of this. Would it have been that hard to call him and say everything on your mind?

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                      • rowan
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #61
                        I once purchased a text link via GTS, and had some disappointing results (only received about 5-10% of the clicks-per-day estimate I was given before I decided to go with it). After a bit of discussion they gave me a pro-rata refund. I'm reasonably happy with that result. That's all I wanted to say.

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                        • Platinum Lantern
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 1564

                          #62
                          See..
                          thats what I like about GFY..
                          everybody has an opinion..
                          my whole entire point is....

                          If somebody..
                          especially The Owner of a company gives me a refund on a package..
                          and tells me that if there is ever another problem they'll take care of it..

                          Thats what DH said..
                          and he can't deny the refund or the "I'll fix it" "I'll take care of it part"....

                          He said it..
                          he did it...

                          So I took at that
                          I believed him

                          but shit went sour....

                          I see it now..
                          as him talking to me as a friend, and not as a business man, when he gave the refund and made the "assurance" statement....

                          I'm willing to try and settle this...
                          but a phone conversation is necessary...

                          DH icq me with a working cell....
                          my people will get the info and pass it on to me

                          I will call you within a week if at all possible
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                          • uno
                            RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 18450

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Brad Gosse
                            Ditto that!

                            Sounds to me like u need to pay your bills.

                            I wish I could get a refund every time one of my print or web ads didn't pay off. That would take all the risk out of running a business.

                            I know Mark personally and today he is not around to defend himself. I have done business with GTS and always got exactly what I paid for. Gallery placements. It's YOUR job to do the selling not GTS's.
                            Didn't you lose some nice coin on that billboard campaign?
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                            • slapass
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 14625

                              #64
                              DH and GTS have rocked for me. BUT if you had a guarentee. They need to make good on the agreement. What everyone is failing to realize is like most of us you would have moved on after the first package tanked and not gone back but the guarentee kept you buying as you were in a riskless situation.

                              All the holier then thou "advertising is a risk" is BS. You should be able to rely on the deal made.

                              Did he really have the guarentee, now that is the question.

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                              • 69pornlinks
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 5560

                                #65
                                you're not the only would have got shitty results from them...in a thread not too long ago someboy said the same...and he got 'insulted' for his opinion
                                It IS what it IS

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                                • sherie
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 7020

                                  #66
                                  Wiredguy is correct along with the majority of people here. It's a good thing you got a refund the first time.
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                                  • RedShoe
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                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 14831

                                    #67
                                    If I buy an ad on a billboard on the side of the freeway, and I get good results to my taco stand for which the billboard is advertising, then I'm a happy taco vendor. I do this for 4 months and I make out ok. On the 5th month, I sell no tacos.. should I have to pay for the ad on the billboard?

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                                    • realed
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 834

                                      #68
                                      DrinkingHard(Mark) and GTS offer a great service.

                                      Sometimes advertising works, sometimes it doesn't....

                                      That's business for you.

                                      Terry
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                                      • Peaches
                                        Old broad
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 13933

                                        #69
                                        Mark giving you the refund the first time was a favor to you. He didn't have to do it and you've done nothing but prove what a good guy he is by bringing it up.

                                        As others have stated, when you buy traffic, ads, etc. you take what you get. It looks like you wanted to again take advantage of a friendship and Mark being a good guy to get your money back a second time. You looked the gift horse in the mouth.

                                        Drinkinghard, Magnus and GTS are as good as they come, so if you're having problems with them when others aren't, you might want ask YOURSELF why that is......

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                                        • LadyMischief
                                          Orgasms N Such!
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 18135

                                          #70
                                          You have yo understand that traffic is a dynamic thing, hardly static. EVERY site is going to have it's ups and downs, and traffic is never always going to perform exactly the same every time.. It's a changing trend. Did you think, perhaps, that you were promoting the wrong type of site with the traffic package you bought? TGP traffic is HIGHLY niche-driven, and you can sell one paysite on one set of traffic, and have great results, and turn around and try to market the same site to different traffic, and do TERRIBLY. Blaming GTS for the woes is not goign to change the fact that traffic is a wild card, and expecting results to be perfect every time is unrealistic to the max. The sites that GTS sells packages for have AMAZING traffic, if you are promoting the wrong site with the traffic, I don't care HOW amazing the traffic it, the site won't sell. THere a million different factors involved in gallery spots... The results could have been from anything... The gallery design didn't convert, the niche was wrong, whatever. I don't see how anyone could blame GTS, Mark, or even the tgps for unpleasing results. It's called "try and try again". It's a shame all this has come to the boards the way it has, I was stunned to see this thread. But I must say that I'm surprised you wouldn't have realized previously that NOTHING involving traffic is 100% guaranteed.

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                                          • LadyMischief
                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 18135

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Platinum Lantern
                                            See..
                                            thats what I like about GFY..
                                            everybody has an opinion..
                                            my whole entire point is....

                                            If somebody..
                                            especially The Owner of a company gives me a refund on a package..
                                            and tells me that if there is ever another problem they'll take care of it..

                                            Thats what DH said..
                                            and he can't deny the refund or the "I'll fix it" "I'll take care of it part"....

                                            He said it..
                                            he did it...

                                            So I took at that
                                            I believed him

                                            but shit went sour....

                                            I see it now..
                                            as him talking to me as a friend, and not as a business man, when he gave the refund and made the "assurance" statement....

                                            I'm willing to try and settle this...
                                            but a phone conversation is necessary...

                                            DH icq me with a working cell....
                                            my people will get the info and pass it on to me

                                            I will call you within a week if at all possible
                                            Stop crying and trying to convince everyone of your divine rightness. You are in the wrong and should pay up. As far as I'm concerned, Mark went ABOVE AND BEYOND the call of duty and professionalism, and if it was ME, you would NEVER have gotten that first refund. I have NEVER known Mark and the GTS crew NOT to go FAR out of their way to make a customer happy. In any other industry, paying him would NEVER even BE in question.. You'd pay up or go to collections.

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                                            • Juicy D. Links
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 122992

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Thomas van de Koch
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                                              • eMonk
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                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 2310

                                                #73
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                                                • TheSenator
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 13330

                                                  #74
                                                  bump....nice informative thread......newbies take notice..........
                                                  see ya
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                                                  • TheSenator
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                    • 13330

                                                    #75
                                                    Just had a nice girl give me a bj..............
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                                                    • sherie
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 7020

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by TheSenator
                                                      Just had a nice girl give me a bj..............
                                                      Since when did "nice" girls give head? >=)
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                                                      • Tipsy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 6989

                                                        #77
                                                        The most interesting thing about this thread is how nice people are being to someone who continues to be a total dick head. Rather than having something that's very, very simple to comprehend explained over and over he simply needs to STFU and pay the money he owes. Then anyone else considering doing business with him needs to think long and hard about it first.
                                                        Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                        • TheEbonyFelony
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 1964

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Tipsy
                                                          The most interesting thing about this thread is how nice people are being to someone who continues to be a total dick head. Rather than having something that's very, very simple to comprehend explained over and over he simply needs to STFU and pay the money he owes. Then anyone else considering doing business with him needs to think long and hard about it first.


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                                                          • Nicky
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 30071

                                                            #79
                                                            You buy traffic, its you job to convert it......sure if they guaranteed you a certain amount of hits and you didnt get it than you can bitch abit.....

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                                                            • Pete
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 6617

                                                              #80
                                                              Traffic brokers dont gaurantee results you fuckin no mind.
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                                                              • Thurbs
                                                                The Thrilla in Manila
                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                • 4785

                                                                #81
                                                                choker said it best, as he called them brokers. if you really want to be a bitch platinum lantern, why not contact the TGP? GTS brokers the spots, they don't sell them, they are the middle man for sites that would rather see the money than have to actively collect it. so just to start, you're barking at the wrong tree.

                                                                you should just pay DH what you owe him, GTS brokered your spot into a TGP and therefore paid that TGP some money feeling that you would then pay them. You were basically fronted a spot, and now you're just welching on that.

                                                                Here's the real life example of your situation. You get fronted a pound of weed from the dealer, but no one wanted to buy from you. Do you not pay the dealer? No, the dealer, just breaks your face and takes the weed back.

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                                                                • Martin
                                                                  "Assassins"
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 17274

                                                                  #82
                                                                  I didn't make a sale from the hun listing I got, I think I'm going to mail the hun and ask him to pay my BW bill..lol

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                                                                  • Holly
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 10017

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Aren't you the same one who started the thread whining about the $500 bet with Boneprone?

                                                                    Jesus, what a fucken crybaby you are.
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                                                                    • Nickless
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 1955

                                                                      #84

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                                                                      • Nickless
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 1955

                                                                        #85
                                                                        i mean

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                                                                        • OneHungLo
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 40902

                                                                          #86
                                                                          DH & company run a first class operation with superb traffic.

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                                                                          • Headless
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 26727

                                                                            #87
                                                                            bump for the moron

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                                                                            • Observing
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                              • 809

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Amazing... you actually refunded him the first time DH?!? That's a heart of gold right there. Time to cut this friendship though and collect what this guy owes you.

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                                                                              • iwantchixx
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 12860

                                                                                #89
                                                                                if you ordered a hooker but she fucked like shit, aren't you still suposed to pay for the services?

                                                                                Pay up man, Save your rep and do the right thing.

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                                                                                • Rui
                                                                                  web
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 9533

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                                  if you ordered a hooker but she fucked like shit, aren't you still suposed to pay for the services?

                                                                                  Pay up man, Save your rep and do the right thing.
                                                                                  somehow I think its already a bit late for that

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                                                                                  • fris
                                                                                    I have to go potty
                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 55826

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                    I'll put my comments in here since I've boughts tons of paid spots from search engines and paid gallery spots, including GTS. You're buying a placement, there is absolutely no guarantee's of any sales or returns for that matter. I've had mixed reviews of GTS, some campaigns were very profitable, some brought in not a single join. It really depends on so many factors that its very difficult to predict how well something will do. But in the end, GTS is just brokering the transactions and if Mark even offered you a refund, consider yourself lucky. A bad buy is not GTS' fault, but a combination of factors. I'd just absorb the losses and move on to a different site...

                                                                                    WG
                                                                                    exactly. if i buy a text link on a site and i dont get a sale pointing to my pay site. i cant complain and get my money back. it could be the surfer wasnt interested, my site could have sucked. you decided to go through with the package. they do not say you will get x amount of sales.
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                                                                                    • corvette
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 7880

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by Platinum Lantern

                                                                                      He has forgotten his "fix it" statement...
                                                                                      He has forgotten his friendly "I'll take care ot it" statement...
                                                                                      He probably meant that he would take care of it with you and make sure that you walk away happy, good customer service; not necessarily promising to eat the cost of the spot for the second time. He seems to run good business; he could have sold your placement to another that would have been happy with it.
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                                                                                      • yuvalus
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                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                        • 1906

                                                                                        #93
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                                                                                        • Headless
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 26727

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          he asked for it

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