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Originally Posted by escorpio
What exactly is it you think we're arguing? That "they're ILLEGAL!"? We're not. I'm telling you your XENOPHOBIC plan of big walls will not work.
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Xenophobia means an aversion to foreigners. If I had an aversion to foreigners I wouldn't endorse any type of mexican citizens or any other foreigners working here, and that is not my arguement. Do you understand that? Those who enter legally I have no issue with.
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There's a difference between an "excuse" and a reason. Have you even been to Mexico? have you seen the kind of poverty those people are trying to escape? Until you have you can not understand why your plan will not work.
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I have not visited there and have no significant desire to. From what I understand it's somewhat dangerous to be in the area and since I don't speak the language or have any cultural ties, it's unlikely I'll ever travel there.
I don't doubt the poverty you're speaking of and am not unsympathetic to it, however it's not the USA's problem. I am not against foreign aid - frankly I would rather see assistance go to neighbouring Mexico than to countries halfway around the world - you never know when the USA might need Mexico's aid for some unforseen reason and they are nearby. But allowing everyone to enter the USA who wants to simply isn't a good deal for the USA. Importing poverty in large quantities is not a good idea for those who don't want poverty.
That being said, they do have a "reason" to want to escape poverty. They have a "reason" to go through customs and enter as they are supposed to if they wish to be a guest of this country. Unfortunately this turns into an "excuse" when it involves breaking the laws of the country they're travelling into.
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Where did I say it's ok to hide behind your heritage when you've done something wrong?
How am I causing racial issues? I see this as an economic issue.
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The reason I said this is that you claimed it was a 'latino' issue, when it is clearly only a mexican issue, and not one that even affects all mexicans. That would make as much sense as me saying that it's a white issue if it were only people from finland or something being affected. It's misleading and sets up an attitude of "us vs them" which does bring out the real xenophobes and racists.
Anyway evidently you're at least trying to understand where I'm coming from here, I really don't want to start something with you but I disagree with much of what you say.