Can you believe this - the registers want to CHARGE ME to get my HI-JACKED URL back

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  • SleazyDream
    I'm here for SPORT
    • Jul 2001
    • 41470

    #1

    Can you believe this - the registers want to CHARGE ME to get my HI-JACKED URL back

    I'll copy the email I got from them - I'm in utter shock.

    Response (Jessica) - 01/21/2005 10:08 AM
    Hello,

    I was sent this email from one of the Representatives from Directi. You will need to contact them so you can work with them to get your domain back. Probably what they will want you to do is pay for the transfer fee at a discounted rate and then once you do this, you can manage the domain there. After you get the domain back, you can then contact me, we will work on getting the domain back to Dotster.

    ***************
    Hello Jessica,

    A thorough search indicates the following domain names having transferred recently from Dotster:


    easy-dater.com

    Yes, you can ask the Registrants to directly get in touch with [email protected] and refer to their conversation with yourself and then we can work upon the previously discussed path of resolving this issue.

    Cheers,

    Saurabh Pande
    Senior Team Lead [Level 5]
    Technical Support

    Directi.com - The Internet Foundation
    Support KB & Help Desk -
    http://support.directi.com
    ************************************************** **********

    Response (Jessica) - 01/19/2005 08:58 AM
    Hello,

    We have contacted the current Registrar of the domain. They have sent the below option to get your domain back.

    ************************************************** ************************************************** *************************

    From Directi:
    This is what we can do in this case:

    1. You ask the Registrant to provide us an E-mail Address which will be used as a Username for the Customer Control Panel [CCP]

    2. We will allot a CCP to the Registrant to manage the domain name shinjukuseries.com

    3. We will then apply Registrar Lock to this domain name and raise an Invoice of USD 6.99 to recover the Cost of Renewal of this domain name. This is will be done since the Customer who transferred this domain name will surely Chargeback [Dispute] the CC transaction. Of course, this price is much lower than our regular Customer's Cost for transferring domain names.

    4. Once this Invoice is paid by the Registrant, we will remove Registrar Lock from this domain name and the Registrant may do whatever with his domain name.

    ************************************************** ************************************************** *************************

    If you agree to these options, please let me know and I will set up a contact for you at Directi.

    Response (Jessica) - 01/17/2005 05:15 PM
    Hello,

    We are in contact with the current Registrar and awaiting their response. Once they have contacted us, I will contact you with further details.














    i can't belive they actually want me to pay them a few dollars to do this. I'm in complete shock at the utter stupidity of this, and it took them a WEEK to get this far.
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    Now read without the word dog.
  • flashfire
    ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
    • Feb 2003
    • 13098

    #2
    idiots...they should be paying you

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    • hydro
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2003
      • 4216

      #3
      Thats a bunch of bullshit but i guess its better than not getting it back at all

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      • Evil1
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2002
        • 3893

        #4
        throw the word's lawyer and lawsuit around a few times..

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        • Donny
          As you wish...
          • May 2002
          • 13754

          #5
          This thread will make you feel better.

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          • r3ap3r
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2004
            • 3535

            #6
            That's got to be the most crap I've ever heard. I hope it works out for you.
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            • SleazyDream
              I'm here for SPORT
              • Jul 2001
              • 41470

              #7
              Originally posted by r3ap3r
              That's got to be the most crap I've ever heard. I hope it works out for you.

              and i get the email fri afternoon AFTER they close their offices. TYPICAL
              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

              Now read without the word dog.

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              • leg4
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                • May 2003
                • 4429

                #8
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                • AgentCash
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 720

                  #9
                  Why is directi talking about shinjukuseries.com?

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                  • webair
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 8531

                    #10
                    get the domiain back, secure it, worry about the bs later


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                    • SleazyDream
                      I'm here for SPORT
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 41470

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AgentCash
                      Why is directi talking about shinjukuseries.com?
                      i have NO FUCKING IDEA.


                      I'm starting to seriously think BOTH registers do way too much crack cocain
                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                      Now read without the word dog.

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                      • gideongallery
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 7082

                        #12
                        time to change registers

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                        • Triple 6
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 5394

                          #13
                          if i got an email like that i would fucking crush the owner of that POS company.
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                          • Mr Pheer
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 22082

                            #14
                            I wouldnt pay it, I'd tell them to keep that domain and all that traffic and the money it generates. Fuck that shit.

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                            • AVM
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 1890

                              #15
                              Don't rock the boat - Pay the peanuts, get the domain back. THEN - talk bullshit to them.

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                              • beemk
                                CLICK HERE
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 20829

                                #16
                                Originally posted by AVM
                                Don't rock the boat - Pay the peanuts, get the domain back. THEN - talk bullshit to them.
                                i agree, pay it or it might delay it even more. THEN do a chargeback.
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                                • Mr Pheer
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 22082

                                  #17
                                  I'd just pay it and then lock the domain down, and write the whole thing off as a lesson learned in not locking the domain down to begin with. And I'd be real fucking happy that I got the domain back.

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                                  • hova
                                    Traffillionaire
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 22430

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by AVM
                                    Don't rock the boat - Pay the peanuts, get the domain back. THEN - talk bullshit to them.
                                    that's the smart way
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                                    • monro
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 787

                                      #19
                                      Best advice for SleazyDream:

                                      Pay your domains in time and have a valid e-mail address at the registrar.
                                      Lock you domains.
                                      Try to be a little more polite at the boards. A lot of enemies won't help you.

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                                      • LA Mike
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 3056

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                        I'll copy the email I got from them - I'm in utter shock.

                                        Response (Jessica) - 01/21/2005 10:08 AM
                                        Hello,

                                        I was sent this email from one of the Representatives from Directi. You will need to contact them so you can work with them to get your domain back. Probably what they will want you to do is pay for the transfer fee at a discounted rate and then once you do this, you can manage the domain there. After you get the domain back, you can then contact me, we will work on getting the domain back to Dotster.

                                        ***************
                                        Hello Jessica,

                                        A thorough search indicates the following domain names having transferred recently from Dotster:


                                        easy-dater.com

                                        Yes, you can ask the Registrants to directly get in touch with [email protected] and refer to their conversation with yourself and then we can work upon the previously discussed path of resolving this issue.

                                        Cheers,

                                        Saurabh Pande
                                        Senior Team Lead [Level 5]
                                        Technical Support

                                        Directi.com - The Internet Foundation
                                        Support KB & Help Desk -
                                        http://support.directi.com
                                        ************************************************** **********

                                        Response (Jessica) - 01/19/2005 08:58 AM
                                        Hello,

                                        We have contacted the current Registrar of the domain. They have sent the below option to get your domain back.

                                        ************************************************** ************************************************** *************************

                                        From Directi:
                                        This is what we can do in this case:

                                        1. You ask the Registrant to provide us an E-mail Address which will be used as a Username for the Customer Control Panel [CCP]

                                        2. We will allot a CCP to the Registrant to manage the domain name shinjukuseries.com

                                        3. We will then apply Registrar Lock to this domain name and raise an Invoice of USD 6.99 to recover the Cost of Renewal of this domain name. This is will be done since the Customer who transferred this domain name will surely Chargeback [Dispute] the CC transaction. Of course, this price is much lower than our regular Customer's Cost for transferring domain names.

                                        4. Once this Invoice is paid by the Registrant, we will remove Registrar Lock from this domain name and the Registrant may do whatever with his domain name.

                                        ************************************************** ************************************************** *************************

                                        If you agree to these options, please let me know and I will set up a contact for you at Directi.

                                        Response (Jessica) - 01/17/2005 05:15 PM
                                        Hello,

                                        We are in contact with the current Registrar and awaiting their response. Once they have contacted us, I will contact you with further details.














                                        i can't belive they actually want me to pay them a few dollars to do this. I'm in complete shock at the utter stupidity of this, and it took them a WEEK to get this far.


                                        Thats almost unbelievable

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                                        • HarlotCash Dyker
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 1828

                                          #21
                                          The main thing is to ensure the daomain is fully back in your control - Paying the small fee will make sure this happens smoothly.
                                          Once all that is sorted, fight them for compensation, especially as it looks like the registra could well be at fault.

                                          Whichever - I am happy to see you got this stuff sorted out pretty quickly - Having been the victim of Eastern European scam merchants in the past (Which cost me about 500 recurring members due to these bastards hacking into my ccbill webmaster stats and cancelling memebers out, and also stealing domains from me), I know how you feel.
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                                          • LiveDose
                                            Show Yer Tits!
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 25792

                                            #22
                                            That is totally ridiculous...

                                            Do it, pay the fee, transfer it and then come up with an excuse to charge that bitch back.

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                                            • OneHungLo
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 40902

                                              #23
                                              Thats scary , switch to directnic.com

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                                              • monaro
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 968

                                                #24
                                                I am happy you are able to get it back.

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                                                • Jace
                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                  • 35562

                                                  #25
                                                  pay whatever to get it back, suck it up, it was your mistake to begin with for not locking your domains...as much as I don't agree with the transfer rules now, there will always be asshole scammers that try and do this shit...it is up to you to protect your ass, and if you are lazy and don't do it, then it is as much your fault as it is the scammer that fucked you

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                                                  • Project-Shadow
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                    • 7340

                                                    #26
                                                    Sue them for lost income, and personal trauma. You locked your domains they shouldnt be able to do this.. then they have the nerve to charge you for their fuckup.

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                                                    • Jace
                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 35562

                                                      #27
                                                      inever did read all the drama thread about this...i was just too busy

                                                      the domains were locked and the person was still able to transfer them away???

                                                      if so, i think you have a nice case that could prove significant monetary value

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                                                      • Rui
                                                        web
                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                        • 9533

                                                        #28
                                                        LOL what a joke, I mean its their fault, their problem, its like if you got shot by a cop and had to pay money to him for the accident...

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                                                        • Sexzity
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 1329

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by LiveDose
                                                          That is totally ridiculous...

                                                          Do it, pay the fee, transfer it and then come up with an excuse to charge that bitch back.
                                                          I agree on that on.

                                                          Normaly i dont like chargeback, but in this case i belive you have every rights to do so.

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                                                          • Major (Tom)
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                            • 32492

                                                            #30
                                                            Damn that sucks bro

                                                            I hope it all works out.
                                                            DUke

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                                                            • DWB
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 31779

                                                              #31
                                                              Fuck. That blows. Pay it, move on and switch to another company, then chargeback whatever you paid them (directi).

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                                                              • TurboAngel
                                                                H.B.I.C.
                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                • 30122

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by LiveDose
                                                                That is totally ridiculous...

                                                                Do it, pay the fee, transfer it and then come up with an excuse to charge that bitch back.

                                                                I would do this.


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                                                                • Video-Post
                                                                  Selling short ICQ numbers
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 1118

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                  After you get the domain back, you can then contact me, we will work on getting the domain back to Dotster.
                                                                  Lol anything but moving it back to Dotster. It was all their fault.

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                                                                  • justsexxx
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                    • 13723

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Were the domains locked?
                                                                    Questions?

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                                                                    • xclusive
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                      • 35218

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Glad your getting it back man, I agree don't rock the boat get your site back and then fuck them over as hard as you feel that you need to do to get some satisfaction.

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                                                                      • fris
                                                                        I have to go potty
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 55789

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by hydro
                                                                        Thats a bunch of bullshit but i guess its better than not getting it back at all
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                                                                        • Dalai lama
                                                                          Strength and Honor
                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                          • 16540

                                                                          #37
                                                                          omg idiots

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                                                                          • pradaboy
                                                                            sell me your banners
                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                            • 12931

                                                                            #38
                                                                            you'd better move all your domains over to directNIC Sleazy... just to be sure this will never happen to you again
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                                                                            • Peaches
                                                                              Old broad
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 13933

                                                                              #39
                                                                              http://www.directnic.com

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                                                                              • Basic_man
                                                                                Programming King Pin
                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                • 27360

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Holy fuck ! That's unbelivable ! Damn man, that sucks big time !
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                                                                                • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                  • 122992

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  godaddy did the same to me , extorted 50 bucks out of me

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                                                                                  • AgentCash
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                    • 720

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Everybody should contact ICANN, maybe they will require better safeguards from the registrars if they get enough complaints. You can send comments & suggestions to [email protected]

                                                                                    But please keep it professional. Sending what looks like rantings of a child won't do anything but harm to the point you're trying to make.

                                                                                    You can also file a problem report against individual registrars. ICANN can't solve it, but they do monitor problem reports to see trends. So show them a trend people.
                                                                                    http://reports.internic.net/cgi/regi...lem-report.cgi

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                                                                                    • arg
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 1164

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Wow, that seems impossibly corrupt, even for Directi. They've got enormous balls.

                                                                                      As someone else suggested, moving back to Dotster doesn't seem that smart anyway. There were several other hijackings from Dotster since this incident, and accusations that it was not just the fault of unlocked domains. I received a message from Dotster last night that they were immediately locking all domains, but it seems to me like they're trying to imply that unlocked domains was the main cause, without answering accusations of multiple flaws in their security. It's possible that Sleazy and the other victims screwed themselves with bogus email contacts or ignoring transfer requests, but I kind of doubt that, and if it were true, I'd think Dotster would say so...in their message they didn't even acknowledged that domains were hijacked from them, they just said domain hijacking reports are "widespread across the internet," and that there have been several attempts to hijack domains at Dotster. As I see it, reports of domain hijacking *from dotster* are widespread, with larger registrars having fewer problems.

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                                                                                      • arg
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 1164

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by pradaboy
                                                                                        you'd better move all your domains over to directNIC Sleazy... just to be sure this will never happen to you again
                                                                                        I think there were two hijackings reported from DirectNIC in the past week. At least one anyway, a high-traffic gallery site reported on GFY.

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                                                                                        • quiet
                                                                                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                          • 25115

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                          • pradaboy
                                                                                            sell me your banners
                                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                                            • 12931

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by arg
                                                                                            I think there were two hijackings reported from DirectNIC in the past week. At least one anyway, a high-traffic gallery site reported on GFY.
                                                                                            really? I didn't hear about that... what site was it???

                                                                                            I think DirectNIC would do a lot more to get the domain back in a jiffy tho
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                                                                                            • arg
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 1164

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by pradaboy
                                                                                              really? I didn't hear about that... what site was it???

                                                                                              I think DirectNIC would do a lot more to get the domain back in a jiffy tho
                                                                                              Whoops, the gallery domain I thought was jacked from Directnic was jacked from Register.com. Directnic lost one belonging to antihotlinking.com...they didn't say which domain, but here's AHL's synopsis:

                                                                                              "It has come to our attention that approximately 2 days ago one of our domains has been stolen due to severe negligence on the part of our domain registrant DirecNic. This domain was used for license authorization of AHL (AntiHotLinker). Thus, for those clients who restarted their Apache web server in the last 2 days AHL has stopped protecting movies."

                                                                                              Registerfly lost a couple recently as well, for anyone keeping score...not sure if they're an eNom subsidiary or reseller, but I think they're connected somehow.

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                                                                                              • pradaboy
                                                                                                sell me your banners
                                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                                • 12931

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by arg
                                                                                                Whoops, the gallery domain I thought was jacked from Directnic was jacked from Register.com. Directnic lost one belonging to antihotlinking.com...they didn't say which domain, but here's AHL's synopsis:

                                                                                                "It has come to our attention that approximately 2 days ago one of our domains has been stolen due to severe negligence on the part of our domain registrant DirecNic. This domain was used for license authorization of AHL (AntiHotLinker). Thus, for those clients who restarted their Apache web server in the last 2 days AHL has stopped protecting movies."

                                                                                                Registerfly lost a couple recently as well, for anyone keeping score...not sure if they're an eNom subsidiary or reseller, but I think they're connected somehow.
                                                                                                That sucks man... I think DNIC is still the best choice tho because they offer good support (right?). Seems like no registrar is safe anymore
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                                                                                                • arg
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                  • 1164

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by pradaboy
                                                                                                  That sucks man... I think DNIC is still the best choice tho because they offer good support (right?). Seems like no registrar is safe anymore
                                                                                                  DirectNIC does have a reputation for responsive support, and that's been my experience. Personally they're not among my top picks for security, but I haven't used them enough lately to know their current situation in detail, so my opinion isn't especially well-informed.

                                                                                                  While no registrar is safe, some are substantially more vulnerable than others. I think all the registrars who are losing domains would do well to publicly explain how it's happening and what they're doing to address the situation - whether it's more the fault of the registrars, or more the fault of the domain owners. In some cases it's a combination...registrars may meet the minimum standards required by ICANN, but there's a lot more they could do.

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                                                                                                  • QuaWee
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                                    • 5791

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    your best beat is to use directnic, my domains were automatically locked after the transfer policy was passed
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