MarcDE and Quiet...... WHY??????????

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  • Shap
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 8313
    #1

    MarcDE and Quiet...... WHY??????????

    Both of you guys are on top of your game. Both made some SERIOUS coin and the whole industry knows you guys are extremely sharp.

    This leads me to my question....
    WHY?
    Why are you guys both still pushing all your sales thru IbillEU?

    Everything that has happened in the past 60 days leads everyone to believe Ibill isn't going to make it out of this. They are having serious financial issues and now their EU processor is an issue. Why are you guys still with them? Ccbill and an EU solution why not switch to them? Is there something I'm missing? I didn't mean to call you guys out I'm just seriously curious as to why neither of you have dumped ibill.
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    • WiredGuy
      Pounding Googlebot
      • Aug 2002
      • 34515
      #2
      I've often wondered this myself but it is their business so I won't intrude...
      WG
      I play with Google.

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        • Shap
          Confirmed User
          • May 2001
          • 8313
          #3
          True

          You can be sure that the sales ars and quiet are pushing are probably one of the few reasons ibill still has their doors open for business. They are helping us other ibill clients have hope of one day seeing a dime of the money owed.

          I know Quiet has no revshare program so whatever happens to him is a hit on him alone. However I wonder what this would do to ARS. If ibill were to be unable to pay them for over a month of sales (that Marc has already paid out on) and unable to rebill their members that is going to have to hurt.

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            • Veterans Day
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              • Jul 2003
              • 8403
              #4
              Marc isnt missing a single payment, take that to the bank
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                • MaDalton
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                  • Feb 2004
                  • 39861
                  #5
                  Ibill pays for a yacht - CCBill pays for a Döner Kebap. Some are impressed, some are simply hungry.


                  (no need to understand - some will and that's enough)
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                    • Rui
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                      • Dec 2001
                      • 9533
                      #6
                      I don't think if ARS ibill funds get frozen/dissapear/whatever MarcDE will have no problems fixing the mess and compensate his affiliates...

                      as for quiet god ridance if I know what goes tru that head

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                        • Nysus
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                          • Aug 2001
                          • 7817
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Veterans Day
                          Marc isnt missing a single payment, take that to the bank
                          Need to also keep in mind that they could be one of the first to get customer dumps if IBill did go under.

                          Matt
                          What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                          Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                          See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                            • Shap
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                              • May 2001
                              • 8313
                              #8
                              Are you saying Marc isn't missing a single Ibill payment? or Not missing a webmaster payout? I know he won't miss a payout. However if ibill is having issues with their euro processor that is beyond payments. Basically transactions are being made but nobody is seeing the money.

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                                • Nysus
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                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 7817
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by shap
                                  Are you saying Marc isn't missing a single Ibill payment? or Not missing a webmaster payout? I know he won't miss a payout. However if ibill is having issues with their euro processor that is beyond payments. Basically transactions are being made but nobody is seeing the money.
                                  I personally believe IBill has been shifting money around.. using new revenue to pay past monies owed, and perhaps not to the right person..

                                  Matt
                                  What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                  Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                  See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                    • Shap
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 8313
                                      #10
                                      Stefan ibill didn't even pay for the yacht They called in a favour and got it free.

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                                        • Shap
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                                          • May 2001
                                          • 8313
                                          #11
                                          Do you guys think there is any truth to this?

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                                          Our EU funds are still being held securely by our EU Processor. The initial commercial account that was established did not meet the depository standards of our EU bank and processor. We have established another relationship with Credit Suisse and expect to have the account open in the next week. At that time, our European processor will transfer funds for payout to our clients. We will provide an update on Wednesday, January 26th on the status of the scheduled payout.
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                                          If that is true then this is not a good sign for ARS and Quiet.

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                                            • Veterans Day
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                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 8403
                                              #12
                                              i believe with serious volume accounts, ibill will not jeopardize those by not paying the program owner. I think marc is smart enough to know what to do and whats really going on with ibill
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                                                • Shap
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                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 8313
                                                  #13
                                                  Veteran i agree. However remember if ibill gets dumped on by their EU processor then there is nothing they can do, and the same goes for Marcde. I've been an ibill supporter since the beginning of this. However nothing since Sept has gone right for ibill and there is no sign of that trend changing.

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                                                    • MaDalton
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                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 39861
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by shap
                                                      Stefan ibill didn't even pay for the yacht They called in a favour and got it free.
                                                      so basically CCBill spend more money for my Döner than IBill for the yacht. that's quite funny
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                                                        • andrej_NDC
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                                                          • May 2004
                                                          • 7760
                                                          #15
                                                          dont they have merchant accounts?

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                                                            • BVF
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                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                              • 13975
                                                              #16
                                                              Ibill: Mr. Quiet, if you keep your trap shut and keep sending joins, we'll at least pay you while all of the little sheep starve. If you say anything, the sheep will revolt and that means YOU wont' get anything.

                                                              Quiet: Okie Dokie


                                                              So I doubt that either will post in this thread.

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                                                                • Manowar
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                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 71528
                                                                  #17
                                                                  i'm sure MarcDe must recieve payments from them, the sheer volume of sales ARS does would cripple anyone if they were paying affiliates but not recieving from the processor

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                                                                    • MaDalton
                                                                      I am Amazing Content!
                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 39861
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by BVF
                                                                      Ibill: Mr. Quiet, if you keep your trap shut and keep sending joins, we'll at least pay you while all of the little sheep starve. If you say anything, the sheep will revolt and that means YOU wont' get anything.

                                                                      Quiet: Okie Dokie


                                                                      So I doubt that either will post in this thread.

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                                                                        • Drake
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                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 12508
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I guess one reason is that if they stopped using Ibill they might not see any money at all (Ibill has supposedly stopped paying those who have stopped sending them new traffic/joins). If you have an enormous recurring base, you may not want to risk losing it all.

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                                                                            • Drake
                                                                              Hello world!
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 12508
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Manowar
                                                                              i'm sure MarcDe must recieve payments from them, the sheer volume of sales ARS does would cripple anyone if they were paying affiliates but not recieving from the processor
                                                                              Yep, that sounds about right.

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                                                                                • Shoplifter
                                                                                  Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 5863
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                  I guess one reason is that if they stopped using Ibill they might not see any money at all (Ibill has supposedly stopped paying those who have stopped sending them new traffic/joins). If you have an enormous recurring base, you may not want to risk losing it all.
                                                                                  This dilemma is the worst for the old timers. We have been processing with them since 98 and still have lot's of rebillers from 2000/2001. I could not get out of bed for the next six months and still do more from those rebills than most -programs- here.

                                                                                  So what do you do?

                                                                                  I am aware that some big accounts have been seem to have been prioritized but I am equally aware that others have not. If these guys are not posting about this it's most likely because there isn't much left to be said on the topic.
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                                                                                    • Dawgy
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 5856
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      ive been saying for weeks that certain people are getting paid every week on time without delay. this makes no sense, since ibill's excuses are that they have banking problems. its obvious that they are collecting plenty of money to pay their customers, but they're only paying the ones who produce volume. i have friends that are owed 100's of 1000's of dollars, but i guess those arent big enough accounts.

                                                                                      its great that some people are getting paid, but its going to look very, very bad for ibill when they get dragged into court.
                                                                                      the revolution is coming.

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                                                                                        • Juicy D. Links
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                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 122992
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          good post

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                                                                                            • Theo
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                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                              • 34515
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              good question, but u know the answer ;-)

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                                                                                                • jay23
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 1444
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Which program does Quiet runs ?

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                                                                                                    • Hung Like Bull
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                                                      • 235
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                      Both of you guys are on top of your game. Both made some SERIOUS coin and the whole industry knows you guys are extremely sharp.
                                                                                                      You've seen quiets books?
                                                                                                      MarcDe can prove he's worth money. Quiet has yet to prove he is worth anything except for the smoke he blows up all the sheep's asses here. Bahhh bahhh...

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                                                                                                        • keyboard warrior
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                                                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                                                          • 1435
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          MarcDE owns 51% of ibill
                                                                                                          - nothing here -

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                                                                                                            • Pornwolf
                                                                                                              Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 22712
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Asking why Ibill is doing this is like asking a stripper that you turned into your girlfreind how many men she slept with. You already know the answer (too many) but you still want to hear it for yourself for some stupid reason.
                                                                                                              I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                                                              Webair, bitches.

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                                                                                                                • Spunky
                                                                                                                  I need a beer
                                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                  • 133978
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Speculation and propaganda

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                                                                                                                    • Manowar
                                                                                                                      jellyfish  
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                      • 71528
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by jay23
                                                                                                                      Which program does Quiet runs ?
                                                                                                                      he owns ultrawiredsex. not a program

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                                                                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                          • 41470
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          i'm betting ibill has said something like if new signups decrease they will keep the renewals.

                                                                                                                          It;s the only reason I can think of.....

                                                                                                                          but what do i know, maybe I should change to ibill..............
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                                                                                                                            • Rui
                                                                                                                              web
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                              • 9533
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BVF
                                                                                                                              Ibill: Mr. Quiet, if you keep your trap shut and keep sending joins, we'll at least pay you while all of the little sheep starve. If you say anything, the sheep will revolt and that means YOU wont' get anything.

                                                                                                                              Quiet: Okie Dokie


                                                                                                                              So I doubt that either will post in this thread.
                                                                                                                              That actually sounds very problable...Anyway its kinda sad to see this sort of thing, but it happens everywhere

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                                                                                                                                • hova
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                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 22430
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BVF
                                                                                                                                  Ibill: Mr. Quiet, if you keep your trap shut and keep sending joins, we'll at least pay you while all of the little sheep starve. If you say anything, the sheep will revolt and that means YOU wont' get anything.

                                                                                                                                  Quiet: Okie Dokie


                                                                                                                                  So I doubt that either will post in this thread.
                                                                                                                                  That sounds like the truth
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                                                                                                                                    • TheFrog
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                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 4095
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      they must get paid i am 100 percent sure of it

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                                                                                                                                        • Gottis
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                                                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 1746
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          quiet was a little worried at times (use the search tool).
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                                                                                                                                            • realed
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 834
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I'm an IBILL EU client and I received my check yesterday...

                                                                                                                                              Terry

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                                                                                                                                                • slavdogg
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 3570
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Who is Quiet ?
                                                                                                                                                  Adult Traffic for Sale

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                                                                                                                                                    • Calvinguy
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                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 1752
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by realed
                                                                                                                                                      I'm an IBILL EU client and I received my check yesterday...

                                                                                                                                                      Terry
                                                                                                                                                      As a client (not revsharer) ? And for which period?

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                                                                                                                                                        • johnny1
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 872
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          IbillEU still owes us!!
                                                                                                                                                          CcbillEU is good to us, hopefully Epoch comes to EU!
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                                                                                                                                                            • justsexxx
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                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 13723
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I asked as well, and they told here on GFY, IBILL EU, does not miss aSINGLE payment, and they are good for them.

                                                                                                                                                              But now with this new crap... we will see
                                                                                                                                                              Questions?

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                                                                                                                                                                • Marc De
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 632
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I've been a faithful iBill client for 8 years now. They owe me VERY significant money for their domestic processing debacle (7 figures). That is an issue I'm working with them on, as are many other clients. The moment that issue arrived we were already at iBill EU with our new processing. Our content partner Storm Media is located in the EU and was using their EU processing. I haven't had one hiccup in payment with their foreign stuff. I have my ear to the ground and my fingers on their pulse and I have alternatives in place. In the event of a repeat in the EU, I'll jump ship to protect my business, you can be guaranteed.

                                                                                                                                                                  As for now, things are running quite smoothly and with iBill EU our sales are VERY strong. *Also note that CCBill EU does not offer pre checked x sells, a huge portion of our business model. **Further note that Epoch will get busines from us the moment their EU processing is online!


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                                                                                                                                                                    • Entropy
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      that sucks...i hope they sort it all out
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                                                                                                                                                                        • bigdog
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 6964
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          once epocheu comes out ibill is dead

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Shap
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                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 8313
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Marc De Thanks for the reply. I figured you were on top of it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Nutella
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 2792
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                                                                                  Marc De Thanks for the reply. I figured you were on top of it.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Why do you even care in the first place?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Really, you should just focus on your own one hit wonder and leave other peoples business decisions to them.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Are sales at Twistys low? Need to pull the "Marc De" card to get some attention?

                                                                                                                                                                                  LOL!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Schwick
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 543
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                      Ibill pays for a yacht - CCBill pays for a Döner Kebap. Some are impressed, some are simply hungry.


                                                                                                                                                                                      (no need to understand - some will and that's enough)
                                                                                                                                                                                      I would kill for a Döner Kebap right now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Holly
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 10017
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                                                                                                                                          Who is Quiet ?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Shap
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • 8313
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Nutella. LOL Twistys sales low.

                                                                                                                                                                                              And why do i care? I'm owed a substantial 6 figure amount from ibill. What happens with ibill concerns me.

                                                                                                                                                                                              While I focus on my one hit wonder keep focusing on keeping your identity a secret.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by Shap; 01-22-2005, 09:52 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Shap
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  By the looks of it Nutella you are simply a big pimproll fan.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  What's your beef with us Nutella?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aric
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                                                                                                      By the looks of it Nutella you are simply a big pimproll fan.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      What's your beef with us Nutella?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      There's rumors... on the internets?
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