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  • Carmensita
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    • Jan 2005
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    Madonna sues Dr. Dre, Mary J. Blige, and Eve

    Legendary pop singer Madonna is reportedly suing R&B songstress Mary J. Blige, Aftermath producer Dr. Dre and rapper Eve for copyright infringement.

    A publishing company claims that Blige's recent song "Not Today," featuring Eve and produced by Dre, too closely resembles Madonna's classic 1983 hit "Holiday."

    According to court documents, the company alleges that parts of "Not Today," which was featured in the film "Barbershop 2" starring Eve and Ice Cube, includes several obvious instances of reproduction.

    New York musicologist Judith Finell, an expert witness on copyright infringement, compared the two songs and concluded that "Not Today" is similar enough to
    "Holiday" and warrants further investigation.

    "Both the pitches and the rhythms sound closely related," Finell told the Associated Press. "I don't think they're identical, because Madonna's song is in what we call 'major key' and Mary J Blige's song is in a ?minor key.?"

    The publishers of Madonna's song could receive at least $15 million if the case goes to trial and jurors determine that "Not Today" sounds notably similar to "Holiday."

    I think it's stupid that Madonna gives a shit...but at the same time people should make original music and stop copying people's older works.
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    • tony299
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      • Aug 2002
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      #2
      Why is it stupid if its your original creation .Why should others profit from it

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        • EyesWideShut
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          #3
          yea I fuckin hate copycats. Always trying to profit from other peoples masterpieces
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            • Young
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              • Nov 2004
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              #4
              This is Dr. Dre's like 8th case against him. That dude needs to be more original.
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                • Chris
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                  • May 2003
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                  #5
                  imitation is the best form of flattery
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                    • Young
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                      • Nov 2004
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by JupZChris
                      imitation is the best form of flattery
                      not when its fucking with your money
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                        • PerfectionGirls
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Carmensita
                          Legendary pop singer Madonna is reportedly suing R&B songstress Mary J. Blige, Aftermath producer Dr. Dre and rapper Eve for copyright infringement.

                          A publishing company claims that Blige's recent song "Not Today," featuring Eve and produced by Dre, too closely resembles Madonna's classic 1983 hit "Holiday."

                          According to court documents, the company alleges that parts of "Not Today," which was featured in the film "Barbershop 2" starring Eve and Ice Cube, includes several obvious instances of reproduction.

                          New York musicologist Judith Finell, an expert witness on copyright infringement, compared the two songs and concluded that "Not Today" is similar enough to
                          "Holiday" and warrants further investigation.

                          "Both the pitches and the rhythms sound closely related," Finell told the Associated Press. "I don't think they're identical, because Madonna's song is in what we call 'major key' and Mary J Blige's song is in a ?minor key.?"

                          The publishers of Madonna's song could receive at least $15 million if the case goes to trial and jurors determine that "Not Today" sounds notably similar to "Holiday."

                          I think it's stupid that Madonna gives a shit...but at the same time people should make original music and stop copying people's older works.
                          Shes seeing the end of her 20 plus year ride come to an end and now shes bitter. Thats pretty sad if you ask me.
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                            • NinjaSteve
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                              • Dec 2003
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Young
                              This is Dr. Dre's like 8th case against him. That dude needs to be more original.
                              But selling old #1 hits just make sense because people will love it since they have already.
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                                • flashfire
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                                  #9
                                  these guys need to quit ripping off other peoples music

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                                    • iwantchixx
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                                      #10
                                      r&b and rap are always ripping people off. that's what makes that type of music my least favorite

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                                        • Chris
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                                          • May 2003
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Young
                                          not when its fucking with your money
                                          people take songs from the 60's and remake them
                                          is that wrong?
                                          why arnt they sueing?
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                                            • beergood
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                                              #12
                                              its not about the $ its about someone stealing your idea. You get pretty pissed when someone steals your designs don't you?
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                                                • Violetta
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                  r&b and rap are always ripping people off. that's what makes that type of music my least favorite
                                                  True true. Rap and R&B rips of to many beats and lines. They should start thinking of making something of their own!
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                                                    • Polak
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                                                      #14
                                                      The 2 songs sound nothing alike. WTF.

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                                                        • Young
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by JupZChris
                                                          people take songs from the 60's and remake them
                                                          is that wrong?
                                                          why arnt they sueing?
                                                          They are not suing because all of those are licensed out.... have you ever bothered to look inside the sleeve of a CD? Royalties....thats how most of the older artists are still making a living.

                                                          Snares are sampled out and paid for.
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                                                            • Drake
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                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                              #16
                                                              I had never heard either of these songs before. I just downloaded them. There is a brief portion of the "Not Today" chorus that sounds similar to the way Madonna sings the chorus word "Holiday" in her song "Holiday". Quite frankly not enough to be considered problematic IMO. The songs don't sound anything alike.

                                                              Both songs are terrible btw.

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                                                                • Drake
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  On a similar note, Dre has been sued at least twice before for using a sample without giving credit to the persons he sampled from. He was sued by some Jazz musician for a sample used in an Eminem song and by an East Indian singer in India who's sample he used on the song he did with Rakim. He didn't get permission from those parties and obviously no royalties so they rightfully sued.

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                                                                    • Drake
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      On a similar note, Dre has been sued at least twice before for using a sample without giving credit to the persons he sampled from. He was sued by some Jazz musician for a sample used in an Eminem song and by an East Indian singer in India whose sample he used on the song he did with Rakim. He didn't get permission from those parties and obviously no royalties so they rightfully sued.

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                                                                        • Chris
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                                                                          Originally posted by Young
                                                                          They are not suing because all of those are licensed out.... have you ever bothered to look inside the sleeve of a CD? Royalties....thats how most of the older artists are still making a living.

                                                                          Snares are sampled out and paid for.
                                                                          no i just work with a record lable
                                                                          im an idiot
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                                                                            • Wiggles
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              she's getting old and needs cash flow from sources other then performing.
                                                                              no sig

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                                                                                • Pornwolf
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Look, as BB. King told me some years ago, "All the greats do when they make hits is just take a riff from another song that they love, build on it then add their own flavor to it."

                                                                                  Sampling is not new and it's not limited to hip hop. This Mary J. song isn't a rip of Madonna's song. Madonna will lose this one quickly in any court of law.
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                                                                                    • cadillac sparks
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                                                                                      • Dec 2004
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      "Justify My Love" completely ripped off Public Enemy. i shed no tears.


                                                                                      Cabala chick should know by now that what goes around comes around.

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                                                                                        • Rilose
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Gotta admit that there is alot of bitting in the urban scene right now as far as beats go. Kinda sick of hearing totally noticable samples as the main hooks in some tracks these days. I love hip hop but not the mainstream shit!
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                                                                                            • Drake
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Rilose
                                                                                              Gotta admit that there is alot of bitting in the urban scene right now as far as beats go. Kinda sick of hearing totally noticable samples as the main hooks in some tracks these days. I love hip hop but not the mainstream shit!
                                                                                              I know what you mean. It's one of the reasons I don't listen much anymore. Sampling is fine if you make it into something fresh (like Naughty By Nature's song OPP sampling of Micheal Jackson; a fresh twist sprinkled with bits of an old song in the background). But when the entire song is based around a familiar song we've all heard before, its boring.

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                                                                                                • Persius
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                                                                                                  gooo madonna! sue the bitches

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                                                                                                    • foolio
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                                                                                                      'holiday' was a stupid song anyway, why would they copy that?

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                                                                                                        • Twe Russ
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                                                                                                          Originally posted by foolio
                                                                                                          'holiday' was a stupid song anyway, why would they copy that?
                                                                                                          you are one to speak about music, she set a trend in her day. dont speak
                                                                                                          if you dont know shit, all the top start from all cultures respect her.

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                                                                                                            • colorsoundoblivion
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                                                                                                              madonna is one dumb, lame bitch who needs to be slapped in public
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                                                                                                                • TaDoW
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Carmensita
                                                                                                                  I think it's stupid that Madonna gives a shit...but at the same time people should make original music and stop copying people's older works.
                                                                                                                  was that part of the article or just your opinion?
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                                                                                                                    • d00t
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by foolio
                                                                                                                      'holiday' was a stupid song anyway, why would they copy that?
                                                                                                                      exactly...there are much better ones to rip!

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                                                                                                                        • pxxx
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Everybody just want money these days.

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                                                                                                                            • Young
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by JupZChris
                                                                                                                              no i just work with a record lable
                                                                                                                              im an idiot
                                                                                                                              Unfortunately my friend. If your under the impression that these artists are just jacking songs from the 60's without paying a dime in royalties you are sadly mistaken and need to find a new job.
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                                                                                                                                • Taboo
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                                                                                                                                  ...some of you think Madonna's suing because she needs the money? think her career is over or winding down? LOL.

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                                                                                                                                  she has every right to sue... whether or not she wins is another matter.

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                                                                                                                                    • BlueQuartz
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JupZChris
                                                                                                                                      imitation is the best form of flattery
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                                                                                                                                        • xclusive
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                                                                                                                                          Hey is they stole it's wrong but if they didn't they are owed an apology

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                                                                                                                                            • clickhappy
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                                                                                                                                              I'm listening to it now. It sounds nothing like Holiday except when they say "Not today" it sounds like "Holiday", just 1 word. Everything else sounds completely different.

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                                                                                                                                                • Babagirls
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                                                                                                                                                  funny, i just said in another thread that hip hop these days sux ass.....
                                                                                                                                                  this just proves my point on why lol




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                                                                                                                                                    • TheFrog
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                                                                                                                                                      copycats get what they deserve in the long run!!!

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                                                                                                                                                          Doesnt sound anything alike to me...

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                                                                                                                                                              rap is the least original of all music
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