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  • nofx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Nov 2002
    • 16826
    #1

    is it legal to fortify your homes surroundings?

    via permits and such.. and if you owned all the property..
    would most local town laws have some gay bullshit law preventing you to do so?

    i'm talking about if I wanted to lets say, build a 20ft. secure steel fence surrounding my house that went 5 feet into the ground, so it would stand 15 ft. tall at ground level. razor wire all around on top. 500 pound hydraulic rolling fence for the entranceway.

    have a watch tower in one of the front corners and constant lights scanning the property.

    fuck, let's even throw in a small security team that stood around my house 24/7

    wonder how fast until you would be questioned about your intentions by some law enforcement agency or be put on some watch list.
    Last edited by nofx; 03-26-2006, 01:20 PM.

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    • sandman!
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      • Mar 2001
      • 15431
      #2
      most places have laws that will prohibit such things.
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        • nofx
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Nov 2002
          • 16826
          #3
          guess i couldnt do it in amerikkka

          i'd have to move to a 3rd world country

          Often times I wonder why
          There's love and hate, theres live or die.
          When sickness comes I must decide:
          When feelings go, theres suicide.

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            • detoxed
              vip member
              • Jan 2003
              • 17798
              #4
              Yeah most places have building codes that limit sizes of fences and additions to houses must fit in with the neighborhood. So no, go out in some county and do it on a few acres of your own property, it wouldnt be much of a problem, just be sure to have lots of ammo and food and water and generators and gas in case they surround you.

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                • MattO
                  The O is for Oohhh
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 10861
                  #5
                  Once it was built it wouldn't really matter if it was illegal.

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                    • nofx
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 16826
                      #6
                      valid point

                      it would take a lot of cash to have a company do a job such as that "under the table" with no permits or ok's from the city...

                      but money talks

                      Often times I wonder why
                      There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                      When sickness comes I must decide:
                      When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                        • avalonp
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 62
                          #7
                          Originally posted by MattO
                          Once it was built it wouldn't really matter if it was illegal.

                          what? they could inforce fines, and at some point get a court order to have it removed

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                            • $5 submissions
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 32195
                              #8
                              Check your local zoning laws.

                              My wife and I looked at some investment properties a couple of months back and one of the places we looked at was located in a housing subdivision. There's no master plan or restrictive covenants for houses in that subdivision. So it wasn't surprising to see one of the houses had 20 foot walls and looked like a desert imperial fortress from Star Wars. Kinda reiterated the need for zoning laws.
                              Last edited by $5 submissions; 03-26-2006, 01:28 PM.

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                                • AdultInsider Cloner
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                                  • Apr 2005
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                                    • ricks
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                                      • Oct 2004
                                      • 924
                                      #10
                                      If somebody cuts themselves on the razor wire, sadly you could be liable.
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                                        • jimthefiend
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                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 18889
                                          #11
                                          Nothing wrong with fences and wire. It's when you start using mines that you get into trouble. LOL

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                                            • nofx
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 16826
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by ricks
                                              If somebody cuts themselves on the razor wire, sadly you could be liable.
                                              they would have to tunnel 5 feet under my fence to serve me the papers.

                                              I hope a vietcong doesnt hurt himself, i'd be in trouble.

                                              Often times I wonder why
                                              There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                                              When sickness comes I must decide:
                                              When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                                                • KRL
                                                  Entrepreneur
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 31429
                                                  #13
                                                  Building codes in most metro cities regulate all that.

                                                  I built a deeper and higher than normal custom full perimeter iron fence once. The way I justitfied it to the inspector was showing him videos of how high my German Shepherds could jump and scale a regular height fence. My building contractor got hit with some extra fees I had to pay, but we got it ok'd no problem.
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                                                    • Downtime
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                                                      • May 2004
                                                      • 7320
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by nofx
                                                      guess i couldnt do it in amerikkka

                                                      i'd have to move to a 3rd world country
                                                      you'd probably need it in a 3rd world country haha
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                                                        • MikeVega
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                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 12788
                                                          #15
                                                          I don't think I could get away with a plan like yours but I could build a 6 foot wall with a foot or two of Iron spikes on top I could also have a heavy gate and a guard. A lot of houses have that by me ..


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                                                            • The Heron
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                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 4496
                                                              #16
                                                              Depends entirely where you live, pretty easy to do extreme stuff if you own lots of property that's not downtown.

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                                                                • BV
                                                                  wtf
                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                  • 10914
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Where I live now you can only have a 4' tall fence in front of your house and it has to be 50% see thru) The sides and back are limited to 6'.

                                                                  Luckily I have an extensive agricultural & horticultural background so I said the hell with a fence and chose to plant Silverthorn hedges (Elaeagnus). I planted them a year ago and they are already over 6 feet tall. In a couple more years they will be 15' + and virtually impenetrable, even a car.

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                                                                    • Webby
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                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 14956
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Sheesh.. it's good to be free and do what the hell you like on your own property
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                                                                        • $5 submissions
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                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 32195
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Webby
                                                                          Sheesh.. it's good to be free and do what the hell you like on your own property
                                                                          Not really. Its horrendous without zoning laws. Here in the Philippines there are some older parts of Manila where you see houses right next to a cement plant right next to a meat packing facility. If the stink and pollution doesn't get you, the traffic will. Zoning laws, while seemingly arbitrary and petty to some are an absolute necessity in this day and age.

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                                                                            • minusonebit
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Feb 2006
                                                                              • 7391
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                              Kinda reiterated the need for zoning laws.
                                                                              The need for zoning laws? What need could that possibly be? You think its OK in a free society for neighbors to rule your roost in addition to their own?


                                                                              If you want to live in a prison, just go out and shoot someone and then call 911 after he is dead.

                                                                              Seriously, you can do this kinda shit out in the country but not in the city.

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                                                                                • MattO
                                                                                  The O is for Oohhh
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 10861
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by avalonp
                                                                                  what? they could inforce fines, and at some point get a court order to have it removed

                                                                                  I was thinking more along the lines of once you had your home fortified you'd hunker down and say "come get me, fuckers!"

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                                                                                    • $5 submissions
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                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 32195
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                                                      The need for zoning laws? What need could that possibly be? You think its OK in a free society for neighbors to rule your roost in addition to their own?


                                                                                      If you want to live in a prison, just go out and shoot someone and then call 911 after he is dead.

                                                                                      Seriously, you can do this kinda shit out in the country but not in the city.
                                                                                      Well, check my other posts above. No zoning laws spawn a lot more problems than without zoning laws

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                                                                                        • puravida
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                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                          • 186
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          almost sounds like ur typical house in costa rica

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                                                                                            • Antonio
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 14136
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              move to South Africa, what you want to build comes as a standard feature with every house ;)

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                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by nofx
                                                                                                  guess i couldnt do it in amerikkka

                                                                                                  i'd have to move to a 3rd world country
                                                                                                  na sure you can.. just go rob a bank and the govt will build you a fortified home with everything you were asking about.
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                                                                                                    • QTbucks_Mark
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                                                                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                                                                      • 254
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by nofx
                                                                                                      i'm talking about if I wanted to lets say, build a 20ft. secure steel fence surrounding my house that went 5 feet into the ground, so it would stand 15 ft. tall at ground level. razor wire all around on top. 500 pound hydraulic rolling fence for the entranceway.
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                                                                                                        • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 51692
                                                                                                          #27
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                                                                                                            • ozmatt
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                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                                              • 1843
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by BV
                                                                                                              Where I live now you can only have a 4' tall fence in front of your house and it has to be 50% see thru) The sides and back are limited to 6'.

                                                                                                              Luckily I have an extensive agricultural & horticultural background so I said the hell with a fence and chose to plant Silverthorn hedges (Elaeagnus). I planted them a year ago and they are already over 6 feet tall. In a couple more years they will be 15' + and virtually impenetrable, even a car.
                                                                                                              hey there, any pics of the hedge? I've always been a fan of hedges over big ugly fences. It sounds like they grow pretty fast, therefore is there alot of maintainance involved with trimming them to keep shape?

                                                                                                              cheers Matt
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                                                                                                                • u-Bob
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                  • 33063
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by ozmatt
                                                                                                                  hey there, any pics of the hedge? I've always been a fan of hedges over big ugly fences. It sounds like they grow pretty fast, therefore is there alot of maintainance involved with trimming them to keep shape?

                                                                                                                  cheers Matt
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                                                                                                                    • Furious_Female
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                      • 8187
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      ROFL what about a moat?

                                                                                                                      you are SO in charge of security at the MooP mansion.
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                                                                                                                        • BV
                                                                                                                          wtf
                                                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                          • 10914
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by ozmatt
                                                                                                                          hey there, any pics of the hedge? I've always been a fan of hedges over big ugly fences. It sounds like they grow pretty fast, therefore is there alot of maintainance involved with trimming them to keep shape?

                                                                                                                          cheers Matt
                                                                                                                          I don't have any pics of mine yet but that link U-bob posted is the same thing. I chose it because they are very salt tolerant and I live right on the ICW.

                                                                                                                          Another type that grows fast and tall is Sweet Viburnum

                                                                                                                          They actually grow even faster. I planted some of these to make some privacy around my patio. They are already over 8' tall and close to 6' thick.

                                                                                                                          Unfortunately all these require pruning at least once or twice a year if you want the natural look. If you want that boxed look like in that first link u-bob posted, then that requires more frequent pruning with some of those electric hedge clippers.

                                                                                                                          But i agree with you, most fences look like crap.

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                                                                                                                            • fuzebox
                                                                                                                              making it rain
                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                              • 22353
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by puravida
                                                                                                                              almost sounds like ur typical house in costa rica

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                                                                                                                                • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 41470
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  if you show it - someone will rob it.

                                                                                                                                  I like sutble security;

                                                                                                                                  graage has transulaent glass on it for light only

                                                                                                                                  bullet proof glass on all the windows.

                                                                                                                                  reenforced doors with shatterproof glass that cant be kicked in but don't look it.

                                                                                                                                  massive alarm system with armed guard service that shows up in under 10 mins

                                                                                                                                  video security

                                                                                                                                  motion detector lights around the yard - some time delayed so lights go on in the house - and one to a red turning light on a time delay so it looks like cops are comming.

                                                                                                                                  fog machine with voice command that says "30 seconds till poison gas release" then fogs the room. (note the video security - it's mostly to film this)

                                                                                                                                  several tazors and handcuffs in case they DO get in so you can have fun with them in the basement


                                                                                                                                  and if all else fails one adreline rushed Jman with a shotgun with salt shells protecting Skufty who'll be hiding under the bed.




                                                                                                                                  but if you look at the house from the street it looks like EVERY other house on the street
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                                                                                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 28609
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      no need to be a prisoner in your own yard.. build your own house , build an underground "panic room" in your house.. it serves the same purpose and wont get you in trouble with the local laws..
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                                                                                                                                        • kmanrox
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                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 29295
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          my milk is fortified and nobody says shit to me... you should be OK
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                                                                                                                                            • nofx
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 16826
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                                                                                              ROFL what about a moat?

                                                                                                                                              you are SO in charge of security at the MooP mansion.
                                                                                                                                              you know it. i got it on l0ck soldierette

                                                                                                                                              Often times I wonder why
                                                                                                                                              There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                                                                                                                                              When sickness comes I must decide:
                                                                                                                                              When feelings go, theres suicide.

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