Very interesting quote on war by a german after WW2

**CybermedAndy** · 01-18-2005, 06:18 PM

Hmm...that is interesting

**Screaming** · 01-18-2005, 06:19 PM

hmm interesting

**Webby** · 01-18-2005, 06:19 PM

And still works well :-)

**xclusive** · 01-18-2005, 06:19 PM

very interesting

**BRISK** · 01-18-2005, 06:21 PM

Scary how true that is

**Webby** · 01-18-2005, 06:22 PM

Myst:

And here is where Hermann ripped his lessons off from.....an older master...

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has 'closed', the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. AND I AM CAESAR." --Julius Caesar

**Pornwolf** · 01-18-2005, 07:19 PM

Ceasar really said that? Interesting.

**DEA - banned for life** · 01-18-2005, 07:22 PM

lol thats why they lost the war

**nofx** · 01-18-2005, 07:23 PM

its sad but true

war mongers are experts at playing sheppards

**Illicit** · 01-18-2005, 07:28 PM

I cant wait to attack Iran !

just kidding ;)

**Spunky** · 01-18-2005, 07:30 PM

Words that apply today and probably 100 years from now

**dready** · 01-18-2005, 07:39 PM

bump for the truth!

**suesheboy** · 01-18-2005, 07:46 PM

And many of you did not vote against Bush...

**Warden** · 01-18-2005, 07:59 PM

Here is some Snopes info about the quote. This is actually fragments of a conversation.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm

**Warden** · 01-18-2005, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by spunky

Words that apply today and probably 100 years from now

Yeah it is a pretty timeless quote. It's orgins actually are from the Roman Empire era!

**Myst** · 01-18-2005, 08:53 PM

good stuff

amazing how people of the past were so fluent and artistic with their writing

its really a shame to see the kind of shit people spit out nowadays.. our education system is failing

**Rochard** · 01-18-2005, 09:02 PM

Sometimes.... I wonder.... About Bush and company.

I didn't vote for him, but I wonder if he's seeing thirty years into the future - with the US being firmly planted in Iraq.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

**Praguer** · 01-18-2005, 09:13 PM

but I wonder if he's seeing thirty years into the future - with the US being firmly planted in Iraq.

I think he is seeing 4-8 years into the future, another Bush in da house.

**Hustlin Entertainment** · 01-18-2005, 09:14 PM

what what?

**Kapitan Ivanov II** · 01-18-2005, 09:16 PM

Yes and all you can conclude is that soldiers are mindless idiots.

**pxxx** · 01-18-2005, 09:18 PM

That was very intersting, that was a crazy war.

**The Sultan Of Smut** · 01-18-2005, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Kapitan Ivanov II

Yes and all you can conclude is that soldiers are mindless idiots.

No, it's the public that are mindless idiots. You, me, everybody.

**smack** · 01-18-2005, 09:21 PM

those who do not learn from history....

**Relish XXX** · 01-18-2005, 09:23 PM

http://www.sidetraked.com/index.php?cmd=media&id=169
I think these two kids are wannabe Nazis....

**Kapitan Ivanov II** · 01-18-2005, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut

No, it's the public that are mindless idiots. You, me, everybody.

We aren't the ones pulling the triggers.

**jukeboxfrank** · 01-18-2005, 09:47 PM

that would work for sure, as it really helps when someone flys planes into building right.

**corvette** · 01-18-2005, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf

Ceasar really said that? Interesting.

shakespear really said that

hardly a german, that was hitlers minister of propeganda...to clarify a point

**Zerof8** · 01-18-2005, 09:50 PM

Unfortunately, I think about 51% of people are ignorant bastards so as long as you control the sheep you are in the clear.

**corvette** · 01-18-2005, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by corvett

shakespear really said that

whoops, snopes says i am wrong

Likewise, Shakespeare did not stuff this soliloquy into the mouth of the title character in his play Julius Caesar, nor did any of the Bard's other characters utter it.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/caesar.htm

**jt420** · 01-18-2005, 10:45 PM

lets hope theres not another fucking bush in the whitehouse.

**D Flower** · 01-18-2005, 11:08 PM

That's very interesting and seems to very true - then and now.

**AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE** · 01-18-2005, 11:18 PM

Well not to brag...
I was if not the first but amoung the first to create multiple photos of Bush in Nazi uniforms photo chopping.

At first I was ridiculed! I expected that though. What I didnt expect is for thousands of people to be lookin for the graphics and hotlinking me and stealing the photos off of google.
Not that I minded at all, it brought awareness.

What does that mean? It means That German General is right and he was a learned man from Shakespear. Yet American's are under assault from its own government and still refuse to acknowledge what the current administration has done to our country and continues to do.

These are some very dark times for America and it has not even been realised.

**fulcrumstudio** · 01-18-2005, 11:18 PM

"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."
- General George Patton

**reynold** · 01-18-2005, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by Myst

Well-said.

This is probably one of the few posts here that actually made sense.

**Shoehorn!** · 01-18-2005, 11:22 PM

I've read that and similar quotes before. Aside from the fact that Hitler was a fucked up individual, he was a brilliant leader and could get people to do what he wanted them to do. Too bad he had them do what they did.

**Mark-JoinRightNow** · 01-18-2005, 11:22 PM

Word on that quote. Very, very true. Kinda sad to know but...true.

**AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE** · 01-18-2005, 11:23 PM

America is 2 steps from rounding up "Undesirables" and putting them in prison for various excuses but the main excuse will most likely for being American and holding fast to the values this country was wrought from. Freedom.

**pornguy** · 01-18-2005, 11:24 PM

"Only the Dead have seen the end of War!"

I think was said by Plato

**Shoehorn!** · 01-18-2005, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

America is 2 steps from rounding up "Undesirables" and putting them in prison for various excuses but the main excuse will most likely for being American and holding fast to the values this country was wrought from. Freedom.

Its sad, because that is very true.

**AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE** · 01-18-2005, 11:26 PM

Just a last note.

Republican's aint bad however its structure has been hi jacked. I have always been an advocate for less government and the things Republican stand for, however what the current Republican's do and what they say are completely different.

**Shoehorn!** · 01-18-2005, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Just a last note.

I have always been an advocate for less government

I agree with that one.

**Entropy** · 01-18-2005, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Praguer

I think he is seeing 4-8 years into the future, another Bush in da house.

if that happens, i will leave for good...

**Corleone** · 01-18-2005, 11:40 PM

its still working very well..

**marzzo** · 01-18-2005, 11:45 PM

IBM worked with the Nazi's to create the first cataloging system for humans which would later become the base for the US Census System.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/021...k,33412,1.html

"Documents were obtained from IBM files shipped to NYU for processing and from scores of other archival sources here and abroad. Not a single sentence written by IBM personnel has been discovered in any of the documents questioning the morality of automating the Third Reich, even when headlines proclaimed the mass murder of Jews."

PC or Mac?

http://news.com.com/2009-1082-269157.html

"What exactly did the Nazis need IBM's equipment for?
When Hitler came to power in 1933, his desire to destroy European Jewry was so ambitious an enterprise, it required the resources of a computer. But in 1933 no computer existed. What did exist was the Hollerith punch-card system. It was invented by a German-American in Buffalo, New York, for the Census Bureau. This punch-card system could store all the information about individuals, places, products, inventories, schedules, in the holes that were punched or not punched in columns and rows."

**kowntafit** · 01-18-2005, 11:47 PM

Very true indeed, nice find.

**BRISK** · 01-18-2005, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

America is 2 steps from rounding up "Undesirables" and putting them in prison for various excuses but the main excuse will most likely for being American and holding fast to the values this country was wrought from. Freedom.

Freedom has been hijacked

Very interesting quote on war by a german after WW2

Very interesting quote on war by a german after WW2

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