Originally posted by studio
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As I said, it's neither included in the lost bets or the winnings. The results would essentially be the same, it just complicates the math. You would make more if you hit the number early and lose more if you hit it late - the results would just be amplified. -
Now that the "system" has been revealed,here's my betting system that has worked for me for 4 years.. and always won money.
Using this strategy at internext, i won $2,400 plus the $400 i started with.... i had a high fever during the trip so i couldn't show some other webmasters, so i'll type it up quickly here:
Roulette is about luck and lucky streaks, and it's not as mathematical to analyze.. the numbers DO NOT evenly distribute on the outcome. The numbers do mostly occur in the 2nd and 3rd sets (13 - 36)
here's a table layout for reference:
http://www.roulette.sh/table_layout.html
Assuming a $5 minimum inside bet:
Pick a number that comes to you (ie. 27)
Put down a chip on 27. Put the other 4 chips on other numbers within the 12 grouping (ie. 27 is in the 3rd 12). You can put it on black or red numbers, whichever pops out at you....
27 is a red color, put $5 on red.
27 is an odd number, put $5 on odd
27 is in the 3rd 12, put $5 on it.
(optionally), 27 is in the right hand column, put $5 on the 2to1 spot on the bottom of the column.
Total bet on table = $25 (counting the optional bet)
The wheel spins and if it is 27, you made:
#27 = $35
red = $5
odd = $5
3rd 12 = $10
3rd column = $10
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$65 + $21 of your money (you lost $4 on the single number bets)
hitting 27 is the best case, but wherever the ball landed, you may have a bet placed such that you cover your loss and allows you to keep playing.
worst case in the above scenario would be like a black 2 (example).. then you lose all of your money.
As you start winning, increase your bets.. so you are playing $5 per number, $10 per number, etc.. You win in the short term, so if you have higher money bets on the table, you win more money. I used to average $400 per spin at venetian using this strategy. The pit boss sees you betting high and if you stay there for more than an hour, you can get comped.
The method of betting shows some hedging and backing of your bet (your guess at what single number will show up on the spin)
It is all pure luck, but it's not all mathematics.... have some liquer in ya and have fun.. let the numbers come to you and spread your bets out. You will lose in the long run at sitting at a table... so my rule is once you are up, made back your original starting money plus some extra spending money.. that if you lose big twice in a row, time to leave, you have hit the bad streak.
Go off and spend the casinos money on fun stuff, or try again at another casinio when you are feeling lucky.
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you said that that was just side money... not important to the systemOriginally posted by studioMedia Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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Seriously, there's no such thing as a roulette system.
I design logo's.
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Originally posted by Tipsy
100K turns on a simulator would show us for sure!ICQ: 91139591Comment
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your winnings are off, you put $5 on every option so 27 gets youOriginally posted by FightThisPatent
$175 alone
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When I play roulette, I always do doubeling.....I start out at $10 on a color when that color ha snot come for 2 spins, than I double till I win, the most ive had to spin so far is 7 turns.....was abit sweaty at the 7th though $640 bet to win $10 is abit stiff. LOL
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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
I feel cheated.
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I just ran one and the results are 'interesting' but slightly differently played to his. The four outside bets are on single numbers and NOT split. Splitting is stupid. It simply increases the houses odds hugely. Also the bet is reset if any of the five numbers is hit as waiting for a single number will eventually make for very, very big bets.Originally posted by dready
I'm making sure I haven't cock up on the routines as if not the results are as I say...interesting.
The biggest problem is one of time. The simulator (providing I've made no mistakes) shows a profit BUT to keep within table limits bets have to be $1 and $1 bets make for a LOT os spins to win anything worthwhile.
Again I wanna check my routines and math as the brain gets rusty
Ignorance is never bliss.
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Originally posted by pradaboyyour winnings are off, you put $5 on every option so 27 gets you
$175 alone
If you put $5 on just one number, then yes, 35:1 payout on a $5 bet would be $175.
For those starting out for the first time, putting down $5 bets can burn through your money.
When I play, i start out with $5 chips and make $5 bets on numbers. The payouts are alot higher (and so are the losses when you hit bad streaks).
Once you start winning, and you can modify the strategy, put $100 on black or red, put higher amounts on the 2nd or 3rd 12.
once you get comfortable with the betting strategy and winning, then you will get bolder and bet higher.
Above all, know when to stop. Hitting the bad streak early on can be very discouraging, that's why i suggest starting with the $1 bets to "feel out your luck streak".
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Originally posted by Tipsy
Sitting through 100 spins is alot of time at the table. With any betting strategy, you will ultimately lose.
Statistics only make sense over a long period of time, during the short term, stats are not reliable.. look at any roulette table results board.. the reds and blacks don't show up 50/50 there could be streaks of 15 reds in a row.. but in the long run after 100 spins, it starts to even out.
You can only win at gambling in the short run.. so the higher you bet in the short run, assuming you are on the lucky streak, the more you can make.
Above all, knowing when to fold is the key.
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I just tried studio's theory on 100 spins by a random number generator that includes 0 00. Of course this is only 100 spins, but by following the rules it made $1004 dollars. Not bad.Comment
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done that and lost 11 times in a rowOriginally posted by NickyWhen I play roulette, I always do doubeling.....I start out at $10 on a color when that color ha snot come for 2 spins, than I double till I win, the most ive had to spin so far is 7 turns.....was abit sweaty at the 7th though $640 bet to win $10 is abit stiff. LOL
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nice, keep us updatedOriginally posted by TipsyI just ran one and the results are 'interesting' but slightly differently played to his. The four outside bets are on single numbers and NOT split. Splitting is stupid. It simply increases the houses odds hugely. Also the bet is reset if any of the five numbers is hit as waiting for a single number will eventually make for very, very big bets.
I'm making sure I haven't cock up on the routines as if not the results are as I say...interesting.
The biggest problem is one of time. The simulator (providing I've made no mistakes) shows a profit BUT to keep within table limits bets have to be $1 and $1 bets make for a LOT os spins to win anything worthwhile.
Again I wanna check my routines and math as the brain gets rusty
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do you have software for this???Originally posted by HoudiniMedia Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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By using 1 dollar chips?Originally posted by HoudiniComment
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OK, I did my part... Now let's see all you guys and gals put Pineapplepink on the map...
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Originally posted by pradaboynice, keep us updated
Told you I'd fucked up. I forgot to deduct the outer chips.
Running it with resetting on any bet and the outer chips not split average loss around $6k or so over 100k spins.
Running it with outer numbers split average around $160k loss over 100k spins if resetting on any win.
Running with numbers split and resetting only on main number win running at around $130k average loss over 100k spins.
No real surprise there. If anyone wants to knock up a quick program that does the same and finds different results I'd be interested. BTW - first two results more than prove the point about splitting - always is a very stupid thing to do.Ignorance is never bliss.
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Oh and that was for a $1 bet. Bigger bets than that get scary and would break most house limits at some stage - to be honest in the third example which seems to be the one represnting the guy's model, even at $1 you need a table happy to accept stakes of over $1k on a single spin.Ignorance is never bliss.
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Originally posted by Tipsy
very kool, I thought splitting them would be dumb but this has proven it. Do you have any way of checking (like CoolE did) at what point a win is not profitable anymore (the losses are bigger than the hit)?Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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You mean "if your number hits" as you can be there for a very long time before your number comes up.Originally posted by studioComment
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Tipsy,
I don't know what you are doing...? when you ran 130 K random numbers? How many times did any one number come up?Comment
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It's on my computer, but it's similar to this. http://www.saliu.com/generator.htmlOriginally posted by pradaboyComment
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Yes, $1 dollar chips.Originally posted by QualityMpegsComment
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Wow...don't know who to believe anymore...hehComment
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Don't believe anyone... work it out on paper for yourself... Then just go and spend a day at the casino, watching the wheel spin... Make believe your playing and see how many times you would have won... simple as that...Comment
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I have studied this for over 800 hours... I don't need to be convinced... But I will say Version 2 is better if you have balls...Comment
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Nice site, cute girls, but, You might want to change your tour, I don't think you are allowed to use screenshots of Pluginfeeds, just their approved banners....
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Thanks, for looking... I don't know... they have seen it?Comment
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I ran 100k of numbers and never looked to track it. I was only interested in overall results at the time for curiosity value and certainly not interested enough to go into more detail. As I say if you run that system for 100k spins they were the results I received after those spins.Originally posted by studio
I've no reason to doubt that it's been working for you. Slight mods to the stake whilst playing and a little 'dumb luck' could well make that true. You've already stated that you sometimes increase the amount it's raised depending on results. However I firmly believe that if so it really is simple luck.
I went 18 months once winning several hundred almost every time on regular casino trips and using a VERY basic method at the table. However that's never been repeated and again was just a streak of luck. I enjoy roulette as over time if you bet sensibly you get a lot of entertainment for really very little outlay. However, I far prefer to believe a combination of basic math, restrictive table limits (and funds available to bet) make it impossible to win long-term unless very, very lucky and that you've simply managed that.
Either way may it continue to work for you and good luck for all your future visits
Ignorance is never bliss.
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http://www.wizardofodds.com/gambling...html#challenge
the Wizard of Odds had a challenge going for the past 6 years inviting anyone who thinks they have a "system" to put up 2k to his 20k. Only one person took the challenge and he lost.Comment
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here is system.....bet 5 on black and 5 on red every spin you win, hits red doubleb the
bet on black. hits black double bet red, double bet all losses when u win go to base bet.
you only lose both bets on 0 or 00. hedge by betting 1 buck on 0 and 00 double7ng that every 12 lossesSIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Here's the best system in the world (heh heh heh). Takes 3 or 4 guys to do it. Each guy go to a different table and watch. Once your table has hit a color 3 times in a row, signal the other guys and you all run over to the table and bet on the other color...
then take your money and run.
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Test the systems out on these Flash roulette games
http://www.ildado.com/free_roulette.html
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Yea all these systems work so good that is why people work other jobs because winning easy money in Las Vegas is just too boring. HAHAGFY Voice of ReasonComment
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ok guys... there's no "system" you can win at Roulette..
if you want to run the simulation yourself, i've coded a little javascript that runs through 3000 "spins"... it'll take a bit to load as the script executes within your browser..
http://www.gravicor.com/scratch/asystem.html
sometimes you'll be up.. most of the time you'll be down.. hit refresh and you'll get the idea of how much you can lose..Comment
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kevinale,
I don't know what or how... you are doing there... But I see that the number 23 came up 3 times with in your first 100 spins... You would have won 3 times and would be a head of the game...Comment
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I think the lesson is that those fancy lights and billion dollar casions were payed for by everyone that ahd a system.GFY Voice of ReasonComment
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well it's a "system" sometimes you're up, most of the time you're down.. i don't know what the javascript gave you on your roll, but remember you lose most of the bets you make.. so with the 4 other $1 bets you've lost 97 x $4 is almost $400.. and $35x3 (for your three wins) plus the $3 you bet on those numbers is $105+$3=$108 .. so as i see it you're down almost $300.. this all changes according to your system as to how much you bet on your "lucky number" and where we are..Originally posted by studio
all in all it's a lost cause i'm afraid..Comment
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heck that math is even wrong.. the point is sometimes you can be up and sometimes down.. it's all a matter of how the balls fall for the time being.. over the long haul.. this is a losing "system".. the edge favors the house.Originally posted by kevinaleComment
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kevinale,
I don't think you are understanding... I really don't know how to expain it any better.Comment
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Nice site, and those are some nice girls.Comment
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kevinale,
There is no edge either way with the system... Can we agree if you were to double your bet every time you lost... that when you won... you would win back all your loses? plus the profit. If so, this system achieves the same thing as that... it's not rocket science LOLComment
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pxxx,
Thanks for the kind words... give my program a try...Comment
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Maybe I should post the link again... maybe some missed it...
http://www.nobulladult.com/system/Comment
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Unfortunately, roulette tables are not random number generators and so there is literally no way of calculating what will happen. Mathmeticians will say different and that, for example, the odds of hitting black 10 times in a row are 1 in 1000 (or whatever it is). But then drag their ass into a casino and watch as it happens a few times a night.Originally posted by HoudiniComment
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what you are doing is simply double-each-loss strategy, which has been discovered perhaps 10 centuries ago... You can't beat roulette using a betting system...Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
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The main thing you have to watch out for is hitting the limit when you double down, one strategy that your system helped me realize is by placing bets on many numbers you can help minimize the number of times you need to double down.
I coded this while half asleep so if anyone notices an error lemme know..
http://agentcash.com/gfy/scripts/roulette.htm
You'll see you hit max bet frequently when you bet on a few numbers, but bet on 15 or 20 numbers and watch it get interesting.Comment
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If I understand this correctly, you never touch the values of the 4 extra bets. The only one you ever add $1 to is the main bet.
What do you do if one of the 4 extra bets hits if you are up past $1 on the main bet? Do you continue to go up as if the extra never hit?
I mean if you were on bet number 9 for instance... $2 on the main, $12 into the $2 round, and $47 total... and an extra hit $35, couldn't you take that extra $35 hit into account and send the main bet back a few steps to bet number 3?Comment
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