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  • VeriSexy
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    • Apr 2002
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    Microsoft and Texas go after "fourth biggest spammer"

    Ryan Pitylak, a student at the University of Texas in Austin, and California resident Mark Trotter were named in the suits, which claim breaches of Washington spam law, Texas trade law, and the CAN-SPAM Act.

    This outfit, according to The SpamHaus Project's Register of Known Spam Operations, ROKSO, is the fourth-largest spamming group, going by the names PerAction LLC, Leadplex LLC and Leadplex Inc, all Nevada companies.

    Microsoft's suit claims the defendants failing to identify millions of messages as being spam, and that spoofed domains and misleading text was used, in violation of CAN-SPAM.

    The alleged spammers were traced from e-mails caught by Hotmail and MSN spam traps, as well as through the work of Texas resident Dewey Coffman, chief executive of anti-spam vendor Net-Sieve Inc.

    The Texas complaint claims that the defendants' spam attempted to gather leads for loans and mortgage companies.

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  • xclusive
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    #2
    about damn time they stop some of these fuckers

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    • Furious_Female
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      • Oct 2002
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      #3
      CAN SPAM is such a joke. I get about 20 lbs of paper postal junk mail a week. And probably 100 million Americans get the same amount or more. I never asked for or wanted any of it, but that's ok because it's paid for, right? Unreal.
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      • $5 submissions
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        #4
        Originally posted by Furious_Female
        CAN SPAM is such a joke. I get about 20 lbs of paper postal junk mail a week. And probably 100 million Americans get the same amount or more. I never asked for or wanted any of it, but that's ok because it's paid for, right? Unreal.
        Unfortunately, that's how courts look at the matter. That's the reasoning behind court decisions allowing junk mail--the cost theory. With physical mail, the mailer assumes the heavy costs. With email, the costs are transferred to the receiving ISP and, in terms of time processing the mail, the recipient. Regardless, in both scenarios the receiver wastes time filtering.

        I've always thought spam is more of a technical issue instead of a legal one.

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        • nofx
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          • Nov 2002
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          #5
          Originally posted by Furious_Female
          CAN SPAM is such a joke. I get about 20 lbs of paper postal junk mail a week. And probably 100 million Americans get the same amount or more. I never asked for or wanted any of it, but that's ok because it's paid for, right? Unreal.
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          • andrej_NDC
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            • May 2004
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            #6
            I will hit them up, Im after him also...

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            • Trax
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              • Aug 2001
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              #7
              well... more money to the rest of the spammers lol

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              • polish_aristocrat
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                • Jul 2002
                • 40377

                #8
                Originally posted by Furious_Female
                CAN SPAM is such a joke. I get about 20 lbs of paper postal junk mail a week. And probably 100 million Americans get the same amount or more. I never asked for or wanted any of it, but that's ok because it's paid for, right? Unreal.
                In other countries people dont get postal spam, or at least not that much for sure.....
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                • FIX01
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                  • Dec 2004
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Furious_Female
                  CAN SPAM is such a joke. I get about 20 lbs of paper postal junk mail a week. And probably 100 million Americans get the same amount or more. I never asked for or wanted any of it, but that's ok because it's paid for, right? Unreal.
                  The truth of the matter is that if enough citizens complained loudly enough to lawmakers then postal mail spam would be eliminated. It doesnt get the attention email spam does beacuse it isnt quite as sleazy and is relatively minimal compared to 500 porn spam mails in your in box every day.

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                  • Head
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                    • Nov 2003
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                    #10
                    Took them long enough!

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                    • Furious_Female
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                      • Oct 2002
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by $5 submissions
                      Unfortunately, that's how courts look at the matter. That's the reasoning behind court decisions allowing junk mail--the cost theory. With physical mail, the mailer assumes the heavy costs. With email, the costs are transferred to the receiving ISP and, in terms of time processing the mail, the recipient. Regardless, in both scenarios the receiver wastes time filtering.

                      I've always thought spam is more of a technical issue instead of a legal one.
                      Yeah, it all comes down to money and who's not making any from what and what's costing who what. Junk postal mail costs people who receive it money and very few complain about that. I pay like $50/month for garbage removal, I'm sure it would be a lot less if there was less advertisement paper/brochure waste. Ok, yeah spam costs X, Y and Z money but it's just an outrage that high volume email deployers are classified as common criminals and would be burned at the stake by the masses if they could. Meanwhile, drunk drivers, rapists and other violent offenders get probation.

                      Antis suck, they go around legally terrorizing people for sport. Greedy, corporate America sucks. Not every spammer is a multi-millionaire, with elaborate international setups like the media sensationalizes these few stories we have heard as of lately. They want to make examples of people, and it's backfiring because people see the money that the media exaggerates and suddenly, everyone wants to spam. "yo, where can I get Dark Mailer?"
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                      • ronbotx
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                        • Jan 2002
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                        #12
                        How nice... a spammer lovefest.

                        Where else but GFY and other spam support boards can we get a vile, bottom feeding, IM spamming skank and various other lowlifes who will instantly get on their knees for a buck explain to us how spam is good, Pitylak is just a misunderstood entrepreneur, and anti-spammers suck?

                        Can Spam essentially legalized SPAM in the US. All you need to do is follow the SIMPLE RULES and the Feds can't touch you. But spammers are lazy, greedy, totally devoid of ethics, generally stupid, and believe that "silly rules" don't apply to them. But listen to them whine when the Feds, or the State of Texas (yay!) in this case, FINALLY start enforcing the law.

                        Most internet users, ISPs and "ethical" Web hosts hate SPAM. It cost billions of dollars a year in wasted bandwidth, filtering, labor, and storage costs. Only corrupt and bottom feeding spammers, sponsors, and "Spam Support" outfits here on GFY think otherwise.

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                        • Twe Russ
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                          • Jan 2003
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Trax
                          well... more money to the rest of the spammers lol
                          He wasnt cutting throat anyway, he was doing leads. Not adult.

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                          • Basic_man
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                            #14
                            I hope Doctor Dre isn't one of them !!! hehe
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                            • Furious_Female
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ronbotx
                              How nice... a spammer lovefest.

                              Where else but GFY and other spam support boards can we get a vile, bottom feeding, IM spamming skank and various other lowlifes who will instantly get on their knees for a buck explain to us how spam is good, Pitylak is just a misunderstood entrepreneur, and anti-spammers suck?

                              Can Spam essentially legalized SPAM in the US. All you need to do is follow the SIMPLE RULES and the Feds can't touch you. But spammers are lazy, greedy, totally devoid of ethics, generally stupid, and believe that "silly rules" don't apply to them. But listen to them whine when the Feds, or the State of Texas (yay!) in this case, FINALLY start enforcing the law.

                              Most internet users, ISPs and "ethical" Web hosts hate SPAM. It cost billions of dollars a year in wasted bandwidth, filtering, labor, and storage costs. Only corrupt and bottom feeding spammers, sponsors, and "Spam Support" outfits here on GFY think otherwise.
                              Someone isn't getting enough fiber in their diet
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                              • seeric
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                                #16
                                LMAO LMAO

                                just like the u.s. is gonna end the drug war. LOL.

                                suckas

                                aint happening!

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                                • Antonio
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                                  • Oct 2001
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                                  #17
                                  I haven't sent a single spam mail in my life but IDIOTS like you will make me start doing it.


                                  Originally posted by ronbotx
                                  Where else but GFY and other spam support boards can we get a vile, bottom feeding, IM spamming skank and various other lowlifes who will instantly get on their knees for a buck
                                  Do you have any idea how many millions of peolpe say exactly the same thing about anyone involved in adult?

                                  And it's not about how good or bad spam is, it's all about having your priorities in order. Do you really think that your government should spend millions on fighting spam, when you have one of the highest crime rate in the world, when you have so many kids that can not afford more than one meal a day?

                                  Or yea and last but not least, selling cigarettes is OK with you, it's perfectly legal, it doesn't cost a cent to your country, and nobody ever has died from a smoking related illness. One of the main reasons why the USA government decided to go after spammers - it doesn't get slice of the pie!!!!

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                                  • SmokeyTheBear
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                                    • Jun 2004
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                                    #18
                                    charge 10 cents per email . every isp. this makes spam go bye bye problem solved
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                                    • wes
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                                      #19
                                      interesting

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                                      • AdultNex
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                                        #20
                                        CAN SPAM is a joke, and the spammers know it too.

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                                        • Antonio
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                                          • Oct 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                          charge 10 cents per email . every isp. this makes spam go bye bye problem solved
                                          lol
                                          It's not that simple I'm afraid ;)

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                                          • xlogger
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                                            • Jul 2004
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                                            #22
                                            This is what i think, they need to focus more on getting the rite technology (filters) rather going after people one by one. That will stop the spam.

                                            If one goes down, another one will replace it in a heart beat. So spam still comes in.
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                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                              #23
                                              If SPam through physical mail were regulated or halted to some degree the over all savings would reach the billions.

                                              The Paper savings alone would be good for the envirnment.

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                                              • Antonio
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                                                • Oct 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                If SPam through physical mail were regulated or halted to some degree the over all savings would reach the billions.

                                                The Paper savings alone would be good for the envirnment.
                                                w o r d

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                                                • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                  • Jun 2004
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Antonio
                                                  lol
                                                  It's not that simple I'm afraid ;)
                                                  sure it is..

                                                  10 cents per email charged by isp. isp's only recieve email from other isp's that charge the 10 cents.
                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                    • Jun 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    infact if you added a link inside each email to waive the 10 cent fee if you know the user..

                                                    So it costs anyone 10 cents to email someone , but if the recepient knows the sender he clicks the waiver link and it waives the fee. So only unsolicited email gets charged the 10 cents
                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                    • Rui
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                                                      • Dec 2001
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                                                      #27
                                                      The bastards deserve death penalty

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                                                      • Antonio
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                        sure it is..

                                                        10 cents per email charged by isp. isp's only recieve email from other isp's that charge the 10 cents.
                                                        That only means that email will die as a communication tool. Not sure how it is in the States but here I can send an SMS form a website for free.... Which means that peolple will start SMSing instead of emailing each other. Next thing you'll stgart getting thousand of messages on your cellphone: "Cheap Rolex! Get yours now!" etc ;)

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                                                        • VeriSexy
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                          LMAO LMAO

                                                          just like the u.s. is gonna end the drug war. LOL.

                                                          suckas

                                                          aint happening!

                                                          There's billions to be made in drugs every year, how much is made in spam?
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                                                          • hydro
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                                                            #30
                                                            I stopped spamming for the moment. Dealing cocaine is safer

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