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  • Dildozer
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2002
    • 7519

    #101
    All that work for $400
    fucking retards
    Spam link here

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    • SmokeyTheBear
      ►SouthOfHeaven
      • Jun 2004
      • 28609

      #102
      Originally posted by Shoplifter
      It seems like a well planned event, hitting a high traffic domain on a long weekend. They can install toolbars at will until Tuesday.

      To my mind it seems like something someone may have been working on for a while.

      You have my real sympathy with this Sleazy, this is one of my nightmares made real.

      I'm very curious how they did it. If the domain wasn't locked they would have to know your email, but if it was locked they would have to know the email and the Registrar password. Have you checked your machine for key loggers or any other trojans? They may have been able to pull and then decrypt your stored password file, then they would have been able to get them all at once.

      Im pretty sure he got sleazy's passwords when he was previously hacked.

      When the hun was hacked by the same guy he had the hun's passwords for everything, so if his email had the same password , he prob just waited till the right time.
      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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      • SmokeyTheBear
        ►SouthOfHeaven
        • Jun 2004
        • 28609

        #103
        Originally posted by Dildozer
        All that work for $400
        fucking retards

        $400 a day is 12k a month. he was making a grand a day or more from the hun
        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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        • UniversalPass Pete
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2004
          • 7368

          #104
          You need to contact Icann, and open a dispute ticket, you may also need to go through an arbitration service, you also need to get in touch with the current registrar!

          Let me know how it goes for you! you need to make sure you have your domains "Locked" with the current registrar!


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          • pornguy
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Mar 2003
            • 62910

            #105
            that is vry fucked up.
            I would sue the registrar. The new one and the old one, if you were sure that you had it locked down.
            Talk to an attorney. May be there is legal help after all.

            Good luck! and very sorry to hear.
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            • jonesy
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 6688

              #106
              Karma . . .
              .
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              • Shoplifter
                Richest man in Babylon
                • Jan 2002
                • 5863

                #107
                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                Im pretty sure he got sleazy's passwords when he was previously hacked.

                When the hun was hacked by the same guy he had the hun's passwords for everything, so if his email had the same password , he prob just waited till the right time.
                So they are hacking home boxes? I didn't hear about the previous hack.
                I Like Blondes

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                • JayJay
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 3739

                  #108
                  This is why I don't fuck or play around with people on the boards ect..
                  You never know who they are

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                  • Thurbs
                    The Thrilla in Manila
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 4785

                    #109
                    can't claim that I "did" it for legal reasons, but it should either DDOS out or atleast run out of B/W allotted on the hosting plan soon, which should have the account suspended. so either way, it'll go down, ev1 will notice and respond to your emails promptly im sure.

                    icq : 294518867 .. hope it helps.

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                    • 69pornlinks
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5560

                      #110
                      Originally posted by simple simon
                      You probably called someone an idiot one too many times huh? Karmas a bitch

                      i would respect you more if you didn't 'happen' to make this your 1st post
                      It IS what it IS

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                      • SmokeyTheBear
                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 28609

                        #111
                        Originally posted by Shoplifter
                        So they are hacking home boxes? I didn't hear about the previous hack.

                        no it was an exploit in phpbb or in php in particular that gave up root
                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                        • SmokeyTheBear
                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 28609

                          #112
                          hmmm sleazy whats up with this ???

                          http://66.115.134.22/stats

                          that page goes to hackers site , but the cache(on google) is your stats from september. How did he get your IP ?
                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                          • SmokeyTheBear
                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 28609

                            #113
                            that page is on natnet thus your site .. your ip must be pointing to the domain or something
                            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                            • SmokeyTheBear
                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 28609

                              #114
                              http://66.115.134.22/
                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                              • theking
                                Nice Kitty
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 21053

                                #115
                                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                hmmm sleazy whats up with this ???

                                http://66.115.134.22/stats

                                that page goes to hackers site , but the cache(on google) is your stats from september. How did he get your IP ?
                                Do not click on the link. I did and picked up several virus's. I am now running my virus scanner to clean my hard drive.
                                When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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                                • theking
                                  Nice Kitty
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 21053

                                  #116
                                  In addition the link lead to a gallery...not stats.
                                  When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                  FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 28609

                                    #117
                                    hmmm that registrar is shady too..

                                    qnic.com

                                    they have a webmaster program that inserts iframes and their shit looks half ass..
                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                    • Thurbs
                                      The Thrilla in Manila
                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 4785

                                      #118
                                      that registrar is much like gandi.net and others, always spammers registrars.

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                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 28609

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by theking
                                        In addition the link lead to a gallery...not stats.

                                        Yes i think thats fairly clear since i pointed that out above..

                                        look at that thru google and you will get the real page..

                                        sleazy that registrar is fucked.. the one the hacker has it on now doesn't even appear to be a real registrar , plus its asking for webmasters to put this on their website

                                        http://195.42.181.32:8000/connect.cgi?id=1713

                                        dont click that except to test , wow it downloads adware imagine that.
                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 28609

                                          #120
                                          ok i can even see how that guy got your domain..

                                          Go to qnic.com * this is completely safe..

                                          now register as a new webmaster. once your in the webmaster zone they have a box for you to add any domain you want to your account to add the spyware to
                                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                          • Vox
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 2710

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                            hmmm that registrar is shady too..

                                            qnic.com

                                            they have a webmaster program that inserts iframes and their shit looks half ass..
                                            Check the whois
                                            It's just a mail drop located in Delaware.
                                            Fucking russians.
                                            Social profile assassination for hire

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                                            • KRL
                                              Entrepreneur
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 31429

                                              #122
                                              Jesus Christ don't click any links posted in this thread.

                                              WTF? I feel sorry for anyone without virus protection and on IE still.

                                              If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
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                                              • warlock5
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2004
                                                • 2808

                                                #123
                                                Clearly this was a criminal act, I'd be contacting the FBI and making sure all involved parties got the message. The word also needs to be gotten out to other major tech news sites as it seems the new ICANN policy may have made this hacker's job easier.

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                                                • GeorgeK
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                  • 423

                                                  #124
                                                  Does Sleazydream have ICQ or anything? (tried to send him some info, privately, but doesn't seem to be logged in) No need to clue in potential hijackers reading this board.
                                                  I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

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                                                  • theking
                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 21053

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                    Jesus Christ don't click any links posted in this thread.

                                                    WTF? I feel sorry for anyone without virus protection and on IE still.

                                                    Well...as I stated...I clicked the one link and was warned of several different viruses. I am now running my virus scanner to make sure they are all taken care of and this process will take a couple of hours.
                                                    When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                                    FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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                                                    • warlock5
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 2808

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                      Jesus Christ don't click any links posted in this thread.

                                                      WTF? I feel sorry for anyone without virus protection and on IE still.

                                                      The host and registrar have to be assuming some major liability leaving a site like that up. If bulk spam can send people to prison for a decade then surely installing that bullshit on thousands of PCs can too.

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                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 28609

                                                        #127
                                                        what we all need to do is find a way to shutdown iframedollars.biz they are responsible for all of the hackers profit these days.

                                                        how can you hack thehun sleazy and yahoo in a month and they all point to iframedollars.biz and they are still running spyware..
                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                        • KRL
                                                          Entrepreneur
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 31429

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by theking
                                                          Well...as I stated...I clicked the one link and was warned of several different viruses. I am now running my virus scanner to make sure they are all taken care of and this process will take a couple of hours.
                                                          I had to shut down Firefox even. Fucking cock suckers. These guys should be taken out to the ocean and dumped for shark food.
                                                          If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
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                                                          • Magg
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 4467

                                                            #129
                                                            the people who are doing ddos's... do it to the the actual site (easy-dater.com) and do it to the SPONSOR:

                                                            213.159.117.203

                                                            iframedollars.biz^

                                                            keep him from making money, and everyone else using them!

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                                                            • Thurbs
                                                              The Thrilla in Manila
                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                              • 4785

                                                              #130
                                                              yah it kills firefox pretty fast.

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                                                              • KRL
                                                                Entrepreneur
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 31429

                                                                #131
                                                                Scott, I judy got an inside top level connection at Dotster for you through one of my domain guys.

                                                                He's one of the head execs at the company and you can use my friends name who knows him as the referral.

                                                                E-Mail me and I'll send you his contact info.

                                                                [email protected]
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                                                                from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION!

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                                                                • KRL
                                                                  Entrepreneur
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 31429

                                                                  #132
                                                                  2 trojans detected so far running VirusScan.

                                                                  If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
                                                                  from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION!

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                                                                  • BVF
                                                                    Black Vagina Finder
                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                    • 13975

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                    Does anyone here know HOW to get this site down?

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                                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 41470

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                      for all of you FUCKING idiots ICQing me, I had nothing to fucking do with this shit...

                                                                      Sleazy and I had our spat, but I would never do anything like this AT ALL

                                                                      Sleazy, I hope you get this taken care of, it's some fucked up shit
                                                                      I spoke to my buddy who has some domains with them and he only had the numbers already given in this and the other thread
                                                                      i honestly don't believe you had anything to do with this
                                                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                      • stevo
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 2051

                                                                        #135
                                                                        ev1 = old rachshack = wont do shit to help you out

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                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 41470

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by JayJay
                                                                          This is why I don't fuck or play around with people on the boards ect..
                                                                          You never know who they are

                                                                          are you a complete and total fucking idiot?

                                                                          few people knew i owned that url. they hit several other major gallery urls as well at the same time not owned by me. GFY had nothing to do with it - they went after traffic, pure and simple.
                                                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                          • SleazyDream
                                                                            I'm here for SPORT
                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 41470

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                            what we all need to do is find a way to shutdown iframedollars.biz they are responsible for all of the hackers profit these days.

                                                                            how can you hack thehun sleazy and yahoo in a month and they all point to iframedollars.biz and they are still running spyware..
                                                                            who runs iframedollars.biz?
                                                                            This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                            Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                            • SleazyDream
                                                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 41470

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by thurbs
                                                                              can't claim that I "did" it for legal reasons, but it should either DDOS out or atleast run out of B/W allotted on the hosting plan soon, which should have the account suspended. so either way, it'll go down, ev1 will notice and respond to your emails promptly im sure.

                                                                              icq : 294518867 .. hope it helps.
                                                                              ev1 doesn't want to do anything. i don't think they will run out of bandwidth - this was obviously planned and prepared for
                                                                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                              • amaze
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                • 816

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                who runs iframedollars.biz?
                                                                                http://www.whois.biz/whois.cgi?TLD=b...h=Submit+Query

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                                                                                • Odin
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 2545

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by theking
                                                                                  Do not click on the link. I did and picked up several virus's. I am now running my virus scanner to clean my hard drive.
                                                                                  Motherfucker, should of scrolled down and read this first. Thanks for the warning Smokey.
                                                                                  ICQ: 637//961--015

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                                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                    • 28609

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by Chief
                                                                                    Motherfucker, should of scrolled down and read this first. Thanks for the warning Smokey.

                                                                                    Sorry but if you are getting trojans from that your not protected , yu shouldnt be running i.e. with no patches as if you are your bound to get much worse things than that..

                                                                                    Those exploits are geared towards an affiliate program so they have to be very flexible..

                                                                                    updated i.e. shouldnt get anything from those pages.. ( you might get alerts from your virus protection programs but they wouldnt work anyways )
                                                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                    • Odin
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                      • 2545

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      I think I am ok, running stuff now to make sure though. Am running Firefox, not IE though.
                                                                                      ICQ: 637//961--015

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                                                                                      • X37375787

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        karma is a bitch.

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                                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 41470

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by Equinox
                                                                                          karma is a bitch.
                                                                                          excuse me FUCK FACE? please tell me dumbass who's business I've EVER fucked with?
                                                                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                          • sandman!
                                                                                            Icq: 14420613
                                                                                            • Mar 2001
                                                                                            • 15427

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                            excuse me FUCK FACE? please tell me dumbass who's business I've EVER fucked with?

                                                                                            Choker
                                                                                            Pichunter


                                                                                            If you ask a question an answer will be given.
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                                                                                            • JayJay
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                                              • 3739

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                              are you a complete and total fucking idiot?
                                                                                              You just can't help yourself can you?
                                                                                              Wonder why we we cancelled advertising on your site not once but twice?

                                                                                              Like I said that's why I don't fuck with people on the boards.
                                                                                              Your attitude here can effect your business and your bottom line,
                                                                                              Like you are learning the hardway today
                                                                                              Last edited by JayJay; 01-16-2005, 12:23 AM.

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                                                                                              • SleazyDream
                                                                                                I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                • 41470

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by sandman!
                                                                                                Choker
                                                                                                Pichunter


                                                                                                If you ask a question an answer will be given.
                                                                                                when did I EVER fuck with choker's business? Personally i think HE's an ASS, and he has his own opinions of me and my business that i don't agree with but I never once said there was a problem with his biz to my knowledge. I regurally endorse it as a great option to buy traffic from on here and to friends and associates.

                                                                                                ok, yes - i DID catch pichunter sending me hitbot traffic - mind you it was years ago......i suppose that did effect him, but he was cheating me. And I won't do business with him.
                                                                                                This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                • X37375787

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                  excuse me FUCK FACE? please tell me dumbass who's business I've EVER fucked with?
                                                                                                  I'm sorry for your unfortunate hijack. All I tried to point out, is that karma is a whore. That's all. You love to put yourself in the spotlight wherever you go, whatever you do - and your attitudes come right with you. Maybe you've just called the wrong person an "idiot". Who knows.

                                                                                                  Besides, if you are pushing millions of uniques a day across your visible domains, you better damned make sure you lock your anus down like Fort Knox would only do. And if you don't know how to do it (since you're a "marketer"), you damn better damn well have people who can do it for you.

                                                                                                  Exposure and availability will always make you more susceptible to attacks and exploits of some sort.

                                                                                                  Good luck getting shit straightened out.

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                                                                                                  • sandman!
                                                                                                    Icq: 14420613
                                                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                                                    • 15427

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                    when did I EVER fuck with choker's business? Personally i think HE's an ASS, and he has his own opinions of me and my business that i don't agree with but I never once said there was a problem with his biz to my knowledge. I regurally endorse it as a great option to buy traffic from on here and to friends and associates.

                                                                                                    ok, yes - i DID catch pichunter sending me hitbot traffic - mind you it was years ago......i suppose that did effect him, but he was cheating me. And I won't do business with him.
                                                                                                    thought i saw you saying shit about chokers traffic before.
                                                                                                    I could be wrong.

                                                                                                    I wont get into the pichunter thing proving hitbot traffic is not easy and not everyone will just take your word for it.
                                                                                                    Plus many sites have been sent hitbot traffic that got passed along so its possible to get fake traffic in reality from allmost anyone nowdays
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                                                                                                    • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                      • 3277

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      1. lawsuit will do you nothing
                                                                                                      2. id kiss so much ass at dotster its not even funny..till you get your domain..
                                                                                                      3. move it to directnic asap. they are the best by far. I had a domain taken and had it back within minutes. thats right..minutes.


                                                                                                      Honestly, ev1 probably cant legally do anything, unless they investigate who is hosting and find that the guy is using phoney info to even get hosted.

                                                                                                      I think your probably screwed till Monday. And I dont think an attorney will get you back on any quicker than you can.

                                                                                                      I hate to sound like a sourpuss but I think that is the reality you are facing. I would hold off on an attorney till monday afternoon after having talked to dotster on monday am.. remember that once you mention lawsuits and lawyers, people stop helping.

                                                                                                      I have about 15 servers at ev1, if I thought it would help I would contact them, but in reality they will want proof or tell you that your battle is dotster. adware isnt illegal, but spam complaints may get him pulled which may not be a bad idea, flooding ev1 with phoney spam complaints would get him pulled.

                                                                                                      it totally sucks but im just trying to give you the honest opinion and tomorrow will seem like one of the longer days youll have...i would take krl's info and go that route asap.

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