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  • Greg B
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    No Shit!!! Top Scientists Announce Extra-Terrestrials/ UFO Visitations?

    In all my years as a UFO researcher I thought I would never read something like this. The story broke 2 hours ago. After the latest probe landed on the moon Titan around Saturn... Coincidence?
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    http://www.space.com/searchforlife/e...ds_050114.html
    ET Visitors: Scientists See High Likelihood
    By Leonard David
    Senior Space Writer
    posted: 14 January 2005
    06:47 am ET

    Decades ago, it was physicist Enrico Fermi who pondered the issue of extraterrestrial civilizations with fellow theorists over lunch, generating the famous quip: "Where are they?" That question later became central to debates about the cosmological census count of other star folk and possible extraterrestrial (ET) visitors from afar.

    Fermi?s brooding on the topic was later labeled "Fermi?s paradox". It is a well-traveled tale from the 1950?s when the scientist broached the subject in discussions with colleagues in Los Alamos, New Mexico. Thoughts regarding the probability of earthlike planets, the rise of highly advanced civilizations "out there", and interstellar travel -- these remain fodder for trying to respond to Fermi?s paradox even today.

    Now a team of American scientists note that recent astrophysical discoveries suggest that we should find ourselves in the midst of one or more extraterrestrial civilizations. Moreover, they argue it is a mistake to reject all UFO reports since some evidence for the theoretically-predicted extraterrestrial visitors might just be found there.

    The researchers make their proposal in the January/February 2005 issue of the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society (JBIS).

    Curious situation

    Pick up any good science magazine and you?re sure to see the latest in head-scratching ideas about superstring theory, wormholes, or the stretching of spacetime itself. Meanwhile, extrasolar planetary detection is on the verge of becoming mundane.

    "We are in the curious situation today that our best modern physics and astrophysics theories predict that we should be experiencing extraterrestrial visitation, yet any possible evidence of such lurking in the UFO phenomenon is scoffed at within our scientific community," contends astrophysicist Bernard Haisch.

    Haisch along with physicists James Deardorff, Bruce Maccabee and Harold Puthoff make their case in the JBIS article: "Inflation-Theory Implications for Extraterrestrial Visitation".

    The scientists point to two key discoveries made by Australian astronomers and reported last year that there is a "galactic habitable zone" in our Milky Way Galaxy. And more importantly that Earth?s own star, the Sun, is relatively young in comparison to the average star in this zone -- by as much as a billion years.

    Therefore, the researchers explain in their JBIS article that an average alien civilization would be far more advanced and have long since discovered Earth. Additionally, other research work on the supposition underlying the Big Bang -- known as the theory of inflation -- shores up the prospect, they advise, that our world is immersed in a much larger extraterrestrial civilization.

    Point-to-point distances

    Given billion-year advanced physics, might not buzzing around the galaxy be possible?

    Even today superstring theory hypothesizes other dimensions... which could be habitable Universes adjacent to our own, the researchers speculate. It might even be possible to get around the speed of light limit by moving in and out of these dimensions.

    "What we have done is somewhat of a breakthrough," Haisch told SPACE.com. "We have pulled together various recent discoveries and theoretical issues that collectively point to the strong probability that we should be in the midst of one or more huge extraterrestrial civilizations," he said.

    Haisch said that superstring dimensions and wormhole and spacetime stretching possibilities address the "can't get here from there" objection often argued in view of the interstellar, point-to-point distances involved. Also, diffusion models predict that even a single civilization could spread across the Galaxy in a tiny fraction of the age of the Galaxy - even at sub-light speeds, he said.

    ET signature in the data

    Can the scientific community bring itself to consider any evidence coming from mysterious sightings of strange things by the public?

    In large measure, the scientific community seemingly has eyed ET visitation as far from being serious stuff to cogitate over. Why so?

    "The dismissal has several causes, all reinforcing each other," Haisch responded. "Most of
    the observations are probably misinterpretations, delusions and hoaxes. I have seen people get confused by Venus or even Sirius when it is flashing colors low in the sky under the right conditions. Having been turned off by this, most scientists never bother to look any further, and so are simply blissfully ignorant that there may be more to it," he said.

    Deardorff, the lead author of the JBIS article, points out in a press statement: "It would take some humility for the scientific community to suspend its judgment and take at least some of the high quality reports seriously enough to investigate?but I hope we can bring ourselves to do that."

    According to Haisch, there is a motivation not just for scientific tolerance of the UFO issue, but a strong scientific prediction that there ought to be some genuine ET signature in the data.

    "This potentially changes the relationship of the UFO phenomenon to science in a significant way. It takes away the ?not invented here? prejudice, pointing out that a ?yes? toha ET visitation is exactly what side our current physics and astrophysics theories would come down on as the most likely situation," Haisch concluded.
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      • alias
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        #4
        Our universe and this planet and its organisms are cyclic.

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        • junction
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          #5
          Originally posted by ADL_JD
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          • Evil1
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            #6
            Originally posted by ADL_JD
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            • NaughtyRob
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              #7
              I have read many books on the subject and listen to Coast to Coast AM nearly every night since 1995. I would find it very very hard to believe if there were not other civilizations. There had to be.
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              • LadyMischief
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                #8
                Assuming that earth is the only planet that can sustain life is like planting an entire field of corn and having only one ear of corn grow. Human beings are extremely hung up on their own sense of superiority,and it's either going to have to grow up and get humble, or it's going to be the destruction of humanity someday.

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                • Rochard
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                  #9
                  There is no doubt in my mind that they are out there. The question should be more like are they an intelligent race.

                  First, take a look at Earth itself. With all the different kinds of animals we have here, only one is smart enough to ever have left the planet. If there is life out there, are they intelligent and physically able to leave their planet?

                  And it there is life out there much more advanced than ours.... They should have discovered weapons of mass destruction many times over and perhaps have killed themselves long before we even thought about going to the moon.

                  Just some food for thought this morning.
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                  • tranza
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                    #10
                    Who doesn't believe in ETs?
                    I'm just a newbie.

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                    • Furious_Male
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                      #11
                      The general public is not ready for any sort of official announcement or the revealing of life on other planets. Perhaps in another 20 years it would be safe to reveal.
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                      • ADL Colin
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                        #12
                        "Top scientists". Umm, no. Who are these guys? There is no announcement. Just speculation.


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                        • ADL Colin
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Furious_Male
                          The general public is not ready for any sort of official announcement or the revealing of life on other planets. Perhaps in another 20 years it would be safe to reveal.
                          Safe? You think there would be a panic or something?


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                          • ADL Colin
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by tranza
                            Who doesn't believe in ETs?
                            I'm agnostic on it.


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                              • Furious_Male
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                Safe? You think there would be a panic or something?
                                It doesn't matter what I think. But I am sure many things are hidden from the public for fear of panic.
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                                  • ADL Colin
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                    Assuming that earth is the only planet that can sustain life is like planting an entire field of corn and having only one ear of corn grow. Human beings are extremely hung up on their own sense of superiority,and it's either going to have to grow up and get humble, or it's going to be the destruction of humanity someday.
                                    Given the conditions, how many times has life started from non-life on our planet? Seems like one. Why not more?


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                                    • ADL Colin
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                      It doesn't matter what I think. But I am sure many things are hidden from the public for fear of panic.
                                      I care what you think.

                                      I guess you could use the "War of the Worlds" example ;-)


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                                      • ADL Colin
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BoNgHiTtA
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                                        • Furious_Male
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                          I care what you think.

                                          I guess you could use the "War of the Worlds" example ;-)
                                          Thanks.. Yes I am afraid the general population may feel they are at risk. Hollywood has done a good job at feeding these scenerios for many years.
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                                          • ADL_JD
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by tranza
                                            Who doesn't believe in ETs?
                                            I think it is possible that their are ET's. They have NOT come here.
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                                            • Greg B
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ADL_JD
                                              A monkey flew out of my ass this morning.
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                                              • vas
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                                                #24
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                                                • StuartD
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RocHard
                                                  And it there is life out there much more advanced than ours.... They should have discovered weapons of mass destruction many times over and perhaps have killed themselves long before we even thought about going to the moon.

                                                  Just some food for thought this morning.
                                                  That's assuming they'd be like us. Anger and hatred and greed could just be a human thing. Just because we feel the need to blow ourselves up, doesn't mean that everything out there would have the same desires.
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                                                  • ADL Colin
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                                    Thanks.. Yes I am afraid the general population may feel they are at risk. Hollywood has done a good job at feeding these scenerios for many years.
                                                    I'm a member of the general public. I'd be way more interested than afraid. How about you?


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                                                    • Michaelious
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                                                      #27
                                                      Nice to see the scientists are smoking weed

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                                                      • Furious_Male
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                        I'm a member of the general public. I'd be way more interested than afraid. How about you?
                                                        I would be very interested as well. Keep in mind not everyone thinks like us. Look at the last election for example.
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                                                        • Dirty Dane
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                                                          #29
                                                          Just ICQ'd God, and he told me to bring this message:
                                                          "I'm sorry to disappoint you dudes, but you will never meet ET; Earth is another planet's hell."

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                                                          • ADL_JD
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                            Just ICQ'd God, and he told me to bring this message:
                                                            "I'm sorry to disappoint you dudes, but you will never meet ET; Earth is another planet's hell."
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                                                            • ADL Colin
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ADL_JD
                                                              God always ignores me when I ICQ him. Bastard!
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                                                              • wedouglas
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                                                                #32
                                                                well, i find it very likely that there is other life out there and may be just as intelligent as we are in not 10000x over. the universe is far older than the life on earth....in 500 years from now, if humans are still around, we will be much much more advanced. so lets just say life like ours started elsewhere 1000 years before us. 1000 years is but a second in terms of how long the universe has been around so it wouldnt be unlikely. how far away life like this may be from us...god knows. obviously nowhere attainable for us and maybe earth is too far away for them

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                                                                • ADL_JD
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by wedouglas
                                                                  well, i find it very likely that there is other life out there and may be just as intelligent as we are in not 10000x over. the universe is far older than the life on earth....in 500 years from now, if humans are still around, we will be much much more advanced. so lets just say life like ours started elsewhere 1000 years before us. 1000 years is but a second in terms of how long the universe has been around so it wouldnt be unlikely. how far away life like this may be from us...god knows. obviously nowhere attainable for us and maybe earth is too far away for them
                                                                  You are assuming that life on other planets is in any way related to life here. That "intelligence" advances at a similar rate, etc. What if that life on another planet advances at 1,000,000,000 years to our 1?
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                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • LauraLee
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                      Just ICQ'd God, and he told me to bring this message:
                                                                      "I'm sorry to disappoint you dudes, but you will never meet ET; Earth is another planet's hell."
                                                                      Bingo, score 1 for the gipper!
                                                                      I am just wondering what the heck i did so bad on that other planet!?

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                                                                      • wedouglas
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by ADL_JD
                                                                        You are assuming that life on other planets is in any way related to life here. That "intelligence" advances at a similar rate, etc. What if that life on another planet advances at 1,000,000,000 years to our 1?
                                                                        well im honestly only assuming that one scenario. it could be 1 years to their billion or 100 years to there one...there is no telling its only a brief thought on a porn webmaster board.


                                                                        anyhow, keep the threads like this coming. nice to read something remotely interesting for a change

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                                                                        • Furious_Male
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by LauraLee
                                                                          Bingo, score 1 for the gipper!
                                                                          I am just wondering what the heck i did so bad on that other planet!?
                                                                          Well if this was true you are an angel in this hell.
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                                                                          • ADL Colin
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by wedouglas
                                                                            well, i find it very likely that there is other life out there and may be just as intelligent as we are in not 10000x over. the universe is far older than the life on earth....in 500 years from now, if humans are still around, we will be much much more advanced. so lets just say life like ours started elsewhere 1000 years before us. 1000 years is but a second in terms of how long the universe has been around so it wouldnt be unlikely. how far away life like this may be from us...god knows. obviously nowhere attainable for us and maybe earth is too far away for them
                                                                            How do you assign a data point from one example? The problem is how likely abiogenesis is. What are the odds that life will form from non-life? What is the probability that a sufficiently complex self-replicating molecule will appear in nature?

                                                                            There's the well-known Drake's formula which attempts to estimate such a thing. The difficulty is that nothing is known at all about the fraction of suitable planets where life will actually form. It could be 1 in 1000. It could be
                                                                            1/10^22 in which case we might be the only planet. There's no evidence that it is more one than the other.

                                                                            In more than 5 billion years life seems to have only arisen once on earth. So what are the odds? Not enough info.

                                                                            As far as "advanced life forms". There have been many millions of species on earth and only one wielding advanced technology. The earth was getting along just fine evolving new species befre us. If you had taken a gander a few million years ago, the answer would have been zero. It's not necessary. It just happened.


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                                                                            • ADL Colin
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by LauraLee
                                                                              Bingo, score 1 for the gipper!
                                                                              I am just wondering what the heck i did so bad on that other planet!?
                                                                              Earth is heaven to me. If this is hell, I don't want to leave.


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                                                                              • LeeNoga
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I believe in Roswell

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                                  How do you assign a data point from one example? The problem is how likely abiogenesis is. What are the odds that life will form from non-life? What is the probability that a sufficiently complex self-replicating molecule will appear in nature?

                                                                                  There's the well-known Drake's formula which attempts to estimate such a thing. The difficulty is that nothing is known at all about the fraction of suitable planets where life will actually form. It could be 1 in 1000. It could be
                                                                                  1/10^22 in which case we might be the only planet. There's no evidence that it is more one than the other.

                                                                                  In more than 5 billion years life seems to have only arisen once on earth. So what are the odds? Not enough info.

                                                                                  As far as "advanced life forms". There have been many millions of species on earth and only one wielding advanced technology. The earth was getting along just fine evolving new species befre us. If you had taken a gander a few million years ago, the answer would have been zero. It's not necessary. It just happened.
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                                                                                  • ADL_JD
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by LeeNoga
                                                                                    I believe in Roswell

                                                                                    Lee, just because you were abducted at Roswell doesn't make you an expert ;)

                                                                                    A tin can the size of my living room did not come from another solar system millions of light years away. What aliens don't need food for travel either right?
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                      Assuming that earth is the only planet that can sustain life is like planting an entire field of corn and having only one ear of corn grow. Human beings are extremely hung up on their own sense of superiority,and it's either going to have to grow up and get humble, or it's going to be the destruction of humanity someday.
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                                                                                      • swedguy
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Whow, that is very interesting. I've always been a believer of "we can't be alone in this enormous space".

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                                                                                        • wedouglas
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ADL_JD
                                                                                          Were you a science major at Harvard or something?
                                                                                          i think he just took a little more time to think about his post than I did haha.

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                                                                                          • ADL Colin
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                            Assuming that earth is the only planet that can sustain life is like planting an entire field of corn and having only one ear of corn grow. Human beings are extremely hung up on their own sense of superiority,and it's either going to have to grow up and get humble, or it's going to be the destruction of humanity someday.
                                                                                            We know something about the odds of corn growing. About life appearing from molecules we do not.

                                                                                            Say the odds of an apple growing from a seed are 1 in 100. You plant 100 seeds. Would you be surprised if only one tree appeared?


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                                                                                            • Greg B
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Dang!

                                                                                              Check out the big brain on Colin!

                                                                                              Way to go bro'.

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                                                                                              • naughty_weena
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                                                interesting read

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