Netbilling vs. CCBill for Scrubbing

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  • Nysus
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2001
    • 7817

    #1

    Netbilling vs. CCBill for Scrubbing

    IBill allows about 10-15% more transactions through than CCBill.

    How does Netbilling compare to CCBill in these regards? Does Netbilling let more through than CCBill, and if so what's the % around?

    Thanks for any info.

    Matt
    What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

    Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

    See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645
  • ace0r
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 1410

    #2
    when you are using your own merchant account like via netbilling, you can adjust the scrub yourself in the gateway.

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    • Nysus
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2001
      • 7817

      #3
      Originally posted by ace0r
      when you are using your own merchant account like via netbilling, you can adjust the scrub yourself in the gateway.
      Ahh. Neat. What are the variables you can control?

      Matt
      What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

      Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

      See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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      • Zprogramz
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2003
        • 1360

        #4
        There are tons of different variables that you control such as which level of AVS, CVV2, fre email blocks, proxies and alot more. Call them for a demo.

        Z

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        • venus
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2003
          • 3112

          #5
          you can control everything.
          But remember, the looser your controls the higher your chargeback rate.

          I have loose controls, but I check every signup to make sure that the info (address, name, state, IP address) looks right. If I see 123 main street, its automatically refunded, if a email receipt bounces, its refunded, anything that does not look right I disable the password and email the the customer, no response in an hour and its refunded. This way I have gotten my chargebacks down to 1 or 2 a month, for like 3 months in a row I had zero chargebacks!!!
          Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
          Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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          • Booger
            At least I make a living at this
            • Jan 2005
            • 621

            #6
            Originally posted by venus
            you can control everything.
            But remember, the looser your controls the higher your chargeback rate.

            I have loose controls, but I check every signup to make sure that the info (address, name, state, IP address) looks right. If I see 123 main street, its automatically refunded, if a email receipt bounces, its refunded, anything that does not look right I disable the password and email the the customer, no response in an hour and its refunded. This way I have gotten my chargebacks down to 1 or 2 a month, for like 3 months in a row I had zero chargebacks!!!
            Depending on how many sales you get a day that could turn into alof of work

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            • See Cig
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2005
              • 515

              #7
              no charge backs? cool
              See Sig

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              • venus
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2003
                • 3112

                #8
                Its allot of work but its cheaper then the 25$ fine you get hit with PER chargeback.,
                back in 2000 I was getting 40-45 chargebacks a day ...

                Most of them I dont catch untill midnight when I go through my events log for the days billings, but its ok, as long as you catch it before the chargeback comes through your good.

                a couple of months ago I had 3-4 webmasters trying to run a scam, I noticed that I had allot of people calling the call center claiming fraud and they wanted refunds, so after several days of this I started looking up the affiliate owner and found they all belong to a few affiliates, running TGP's. Since EVERY one they had was comming back as a chargeback or a refund, I just went through their accounts and refunded EVERYONE who joined under those guys. Thats an advantage of having total control over your signups and writing the affiliates checks yourself. I stopped allot of chargebacks and those webmasters did not get paid, if I had been using ccbill or something they would have got paid and I would not have had control over stopping the checks, nor would I have known that they were even calling the call center and what they was claiming.
                Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
                Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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                • Zprogramz
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 1360

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nysus
                  IBill allows about 10-15% more transactions through than CCBill.

                  How does Netbilling compare to CCBill in these regards? Does Netbilling let more through than CCBill, and if so what's the % around?

                  Thanks for any info.

                  Matt
                  BTW - our sales conversions are at least 20% higher than with any 3rd party processor we used in the past.

                  Z

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                  • EZRhino
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 6258

                    #10
                    Netbilling gave me great service when I opened my account.

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                    • dcortez
                      DINO CORTEZ™
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 2145

                      #11
                      Originally posted by venus
                      back in 2000 I was getting 40-45 chargebacks a day ...
                      Wow! I've only had 3 chargebacks since 1999 (yes, I've had more than 3 sales).

                      Regardless of processor scrubbing, each of my signups is human reviewed for 'red flags' - this has worked well so far and is cost justified.

                      -Dino

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                      • andrej_NDC
                        Registered User
                        • May 2004
                        • 7760

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nysus
                        IBill allows about 10-15% more transactions through than CCBill.

                        How does Netbilling compare to CCBill in these regards? Does Netbilling let more through than CCBill, and if so what's the % around?

                        Thanks for any info.

                        Matt

                        but so far I know, Ibill has 100% fees right now.

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                        • NETbilling
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8599

                          #13
                          Nysus,

                          We would be happy to show you our admin interface and fraud tools.

                          Please contact our sales department.

                          Thank you, Mitch Farber


                          Mitch Farber
                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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