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  • vanbest
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2006
    • 240

    #1

    Which sponsors are known for shaving?

    Hi all,

    Before accusing anyone, I was thinking that if you know any sponsor who are disabling from time to time one's sign-ups, to let others know that... it'll be helpfull! It's just that you are trying hard to build up a good relationship with the sponsor and to send good, quality traffic and all of a sudden, the sponsor is taking away your money... WTF???

    Speaking of this... DOES PIMPROLL SHAVE? For example, the period between February 1st-28th, the conversion was ~1:250, after March 1st, 0(zero):5000!!!

    Pimroll, please explain.

    Thanks.

    Vanbest
  • Jarmusch
     
    • May 2003
    • 12479

    #2
    That's not a good way to make your 1st post here..

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    • Cash
      Click on my TCG signature
      • Feb 2002
      • 20825

      #3
      Drama ... btw, Gillette shaves.
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      • darksoul
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        • Apr 2002
        • 4997

        #4
        you should've asked the reverse question.
        most sponsors shave one way or another.
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        • CuriousToyBoy
          Crazy Aussie Bastard
          • Aug 2005
          • 16787

          #5
          http://www.CuriousCash.com shaves !!!!!

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          • vanbest
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2006
            • 240

            #6
            Originally posted by Cash
            Drama ... btw, Gillette shaves.
            Drama indeed...! I don't think anyone likes that, it's good to know anyway. Thanks. So you don't think Pimproll is shaving? What's the matter than?

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            • DamageX
              Marketing & Strategy
              • Jun 2001
              • 14293

              #7
              Pick one. Any one.
              Whitehat is for chumps

              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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              • Theo
                HAL 9000
                • May 2001
                • 34515

                #8
                "between February 1st-28th, the conversion was ~1:250"

                how many sales during that period?

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                • vanbest
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 240

                  #9
                  Originally posted by darksoul
                  you should've asked the reverse question.
                  most sponsors shave one way or another.
                  It's sad... You're busting your ass out to make things happen and don't have any kind of control... is it so hard to run an honest business partnership?

                  Vanbest

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                  • vanbest
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 240

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DamageX
                    Pick one. Any one.
                    LOOOOL!

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                    • vanbest
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 240

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                      "between February 1st-28th, the conversion was ~1:250"

                      how many sales during that period?

                      Around 20-ish... I repeat, they used to act great, I was only asking them, not accusing.

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                      • Blogster
                        For cybersex, do I need a hole in my monitor?
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 234

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vanbest
                        Around 20-ish... I repeat, they used to act great, I was only asking them, not accusing.
                        IF, i write IF, they would shave like this. Well, it would be very stupid. Cant imagine a sponsor would cut 20 sales in a period to zero.. :]
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                        • Theo
                          HAL 9000
                          • May 2001
                          • 34515

                          #13
                          Well now you know your ratio for a month period is 1:500. Estimate your value/click based on the payout you are receiving and stick with these data.

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                          • SomeCreep
                            :glugglug
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 26118

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy
                            http://www.CuriousCash.com shaves !!!!!

                            It's boys.

                            ;-)

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                            • vanbest
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 240

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                              Well now you know your ratio for a month period is 1:500. Estimate your value/click based on the payout you are receiving and stick with these data.

                              Yes, it varies, the data I was talking about was from February, imagine that on previous months it was better... Based on the traffic sent, I had waaaay better ratios.. that's why I don't understand why are they doing this....

                              Anyone you know that might give a shout to pimproll?

                              Thanks

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                              • vanbest
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 240

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Blogster
                                IF, i write IF, they would shave like this. Well, it would be very stupid. Cant imagine a sponsor would cut 20 sales in a period to zero.. :]

                                Considering they shave, right? That is my question, too!! Why would they? When you're used with a certain ratio/conversion and all of a sudden it's going down the drain, you start asking questions...

                                Thanks

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                                • Wolfy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2003
                                  • 3574

                                  #17
                                  There's all kinds of reasons why a sponsor might shave.

                                  For example, (and i don't use the sponsor in question so this is nothing more than a generic piss in the wind) let's say you sent 20 sales and 18 of them charged back. The sponsor has one of two choices - cancel your account and blacklist you from signing up with anything that could ever affect their account again, or place your account on hold and monitor it.

                                  Maybe you only had 10 chargebacks, or maybe none, I have no idea.

                                  Maybe they didn't do a thing, and your traffic changed - is it still coming from the same place?

                                  Maybe it IS coming from the same place, and all the surfers who were going to sign up did, and you need to start sending them to another sponsor, because the current one is no longer tripping their trigger.

                                  And as always, like it has been said many times before - skimming is part of this business. Count your own clicks, calculate how much you make per click, and choose your sponsors that way, not based on ratios.

                                  Of course, 0:5000 could be a fluke, it happens every now and then.

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                                  • ozmatt
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 1843

                                    #18

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                                    • SkyWalker2k
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2006
                                      • 181

                                      #19
                                      just because a sponsor one period converts and another period it turns shit, dosnt mean they shave, can just be your unlucky that your surfers dont wanna buy

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                                      • bigdog
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 6964

                                        #20
                                        porncash

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                                        • Tom_PM
                                          Porn Meister
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 16443

                                          #21
                                          vanbest, why don't you hit me up on support ICQ 245-666-586 and give me your account number and I'll look through it and see if I can give you some insight. Or post it here if you want to and I'll post my response in the same public forum you chose, lol.

                                          Either way, I'm here to help you so take advantage.
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                                          • ShaveBucks
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2005
                                            • 467

                                            #22
                                            See Sig

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                                            • GatorB
                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 18208

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by vanbest
                                              Hi all,

                                              Before accusing anyone, I was thinking that if you know any sponsor who are disabling from time to time one's sign-ups, to let others know that... it'll be helpfull! It's just that you are trying hard to build up a good relationship with the sponsor and to send good, quality traffic and all of a sudden, the sponsor is taking away your money... WTF???

                                              Speaking of this... DOES PIMPROLL SHAVE? For example, the period between February 1st-28th, the conversion was ~1:250, after March 1st, 0(zero):5000!!!

                                              Pimroll, please explain.

                                              Thanks.

                                              Vanbest

                                              I don't believe PR shaves. I will say March has been crap though. Maybe it's spring break. Maybe by the end of the month things wil even out.

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                                              • polish_aristocrat
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 40377

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by vanbest

                                                Speaking of this... DOES PIMPROLL SHAVE?
                                                who knows...
                                                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                • vanbest
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                  • 240

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Wolfy
                                                  The sponsor has one of two choices - cancel your account and blacklist you from signing up with anything that could ever affect their account again, or place your account on hold and monitor it.

                                                  Maybe you only had 10 chargebacks, or maybe none, I have no idea.
                                                  That a very cool theory, thanks. It would've been great to know that, I could've check thoroughly my trades. So? I should wait to see some sign-ups or what? Any Pimproll guys around?

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                                                  • vanbest
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                    • 240

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                    I don't believe PR shaves. I will say March has been crap though. Maybe it's spring break. Maybe by the end of the month things wil even out.

                                                    Yeah, lot of my friends are complaining about poor conversions.... Although the traffic increased, the sign-ups are down the drain....

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                                                    • vanbest
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                      • 240

                                                      #27
                                                      correction:

                                                      Yeah, lot of my friends are complaining about poor conversions from various sponsors.... Although the traffic increased, the sign-ups are down the drain.... It might be the "printemps"... LOL!

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                                                      • vanbest
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2006
                                                        • 240

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                        vanbest, why don't you hit me up on support ICQ 245-666-586 and give me your account number and I'll look through it and see if I can give you some insight. Or post it here if you want to and I'll post my response in the same public forum you chose, lol.

                                                        Either way, I'm here to help you so take advantage.

                                                        Hi Pr_Tom,

                                                        I guess you're the right guy I need... I'll hit you on icq, thanks.

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                                                        • Manowar
                                                          jellyfish  
                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                          • 71528

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ozmatt

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                                                          • rafe43119
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2005
                                                            • 281

                                                            #30
                                                            yea, I'm down almost 50% for march across the board. Doesnt matter what sponsor it is, they all seem to not be converting as well this month

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                                                            • Tom_PM
                                                              Porn Meister
                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 16443

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by vanbest
                                                              Hi Pr_Tom,

                                                              I guess you're the right guy I need... I'll hit you on icq, thanks.
                                                              Yep, ICQ is on our Contacts page.

                                                              My personal sales are *slightly* down from last month BTW, but nothing insurmountable or catastrophic by any means whatsoever.
                                                              I do notice more competition where my traffic is from, so it's a more active battle you might say.
                                                              43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                              • Quick Buck
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                • 1026

                                                                #32
                                                                could be processor related if you're seeing it across the board.

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                                                                • Pornopat
                                                                  AdultTubeSubmits.com
                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 10598

                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • nico-t
                                                                    emperor of my world
                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                    • 29901

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i dont have great ratios at PR either, but sometimes i have periods with really crappy ratios (for instance last period 1:4000, 1 sale) Most of the traffic comes from old free sites....
                                                                    Its the only sponsor out of appr. 15 sponsors with these kinda ratios.

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                                                                    • FIX01
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                      • 183

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Havent had a sale at pimproll this month either. Looks really bad. They should fix all those broken galleries in their members areas.

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                                                                      • Tom_PM
                                                                        Porn Meister
                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                        • 16443

                                                                        #36
                                                                        The thing with PimpRoll is that we have 300 sites or so. So if you send 20 clicks to each of 300 sites without a sale, you will show a 0:6000 ratio.

                                                                        Thats basically the case. The most uniques to any one site would put the ratio into the "normal" level with only a couple of sales.

                                                                        I very often take a look and find that it's only a few hundred uniques at the most per site, which is an important difference.
                                                                        43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                        • Tom_PM
                                                                          Porn Meister
                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 16443

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by FIX01
                                                                          Havent had a sale at pimproll this month either. Looks really bad. They should fix all those broken galleries in their members areas.

                                                                          What broken galleries? Can you give me an example please and I'll get it fixed immediately!
                                                                          43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                          • HammerALL
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                                            • 3506

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy
                                                                            http://www.CuriousCash.com shaves !!!!!

                                                                            It's boys.

                                                                            ;-)

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                                                                            • vanbest
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                              • 240

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                              i dont have great ratios at PR either, but sometimes i have periods with really crappy ratios (for instance last period 1:4000, 1 sale) Most of the traffic comes from old free sites....
                                                                              Its the only sponsor out of appr. 15 sponsors with these kinda ratios.
                                                                              It's weird man... you should get better ratios, they are converting great for me, at least, some of their sites... overall, I am happy with them, it was only from the beginning of March that sales dropped and that is my concern...if you have 2 (or more) sponsors on the same page and one goes to zero, maybe there's cause to be suspiscious ( as a friend of mine said)

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                                                                              • PR_Dave
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 2792

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Usually when I see a thread like this.

                                                                                The poster is a NEWB.

                                                                                They send 10 hits to each of 300 sites and complain about 1 in 3000 ratios.

                                                                                DOES PIMPROLL SHAVE?

                                                                                FUCK NO.

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