proving all religions thus far wrong would solve many problems...lets get to work

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  • wedouglas
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    #1

    proving all religions thus far wrong would solve many problems...lets get to work

    I think its great to have faith and I do, but imagine how much better the world would be without any of the current religions.
  • Pete
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    #2
    There would be peace on earth if that was the case.
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    • Veterans Day
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      you cant prove or disprove And sayin no religion would cure all is ludicrous at best
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      • wedouglas
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        #4
        Originally posted by Veterans Day
        you cant prove or disprove And sayin no religion would cure all is ludicrous at best
        it wouldnt cure all but it would help quite a bit

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        • Veterans Day
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          #5
          Originally posted by wedouglas
          it wouldnt cure all but it would help quite a bit
          you have no idea if it would help or not
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          • swedguy
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            People would just find other things to fight over.

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            • swedguy
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              #7
              People want to believe, if it's religion sports or whatever. They will find things to believe in and fight over.

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              • wedouglas
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                #8
                Originally posted by Veterans Day
                you have no idea if it would help or not
                are there religious conflicts nowadays? are they violent in anyway? well if there are then those would be solved pretty quick...now wether or not the religious conflicts of today are in fact for religious purposes or because poeple are greedy and power driven is another story.the church is just a big powerful corporation with special ammunities IMO.

                if we could just discover a superold spaceship or discover life elsewhere in the universe all would be better hahaha

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                • Veterans Day
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by wedouglas
                  are there religious conflicts nowadays? are they violent in anyway? well if there are then those would be solved pretty quick...now wether or not the religious conflicts of today are in fact for religious purposes or because poeple are greedy and power driven is another story.the church is just a big powerful corporation with special ammunities IMO.

                  if we could just discover a superold spaceship or discover life elsewhere in the universe all would be better hahaha
                  I wonder how many crimes and nonsense is NOT committed because of peoples faith
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                  • wedouglas
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by swedguy
                    People want to believe, if it's religion sports or whatever. They will find things to believe in and fight over.
                    id rather see fighting over something acknowledgable than something with no logical proof or outcome.

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                    • rambler
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Veterans Day
                      I wonder how many crimes and nonsense is NOT committed because of peoples faith
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                      Yah religous people never commit crimes (like murder in the name of thier fucking god)

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                      • wedouglas
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Veterans Day
                        I wonder how many crimes and nonsense is NOT committed because of peoples faith
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                        many, but you cant always kill two birds with one stone. i guess the only benefit of religion that i see is mental health and keeping those who beleive in it in line...but then again some people beleive killing others is "in line"

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                        • Veterans Day
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by rambler
                          Yah religous people never commit crimes (like murder in the name of thier fucking god)
                          Hmm I never said they didnt, but plenty upon plenty of people keep a straight line in life on faith based alone.
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                          • kaliboy2g
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                            Wrong.

                            Thats the stupidest thing ive read on GFY ever.

                            Thats like saying that the only way for there to be complete peace on earth is if we were all exactly identical and gray blobs.

                            No religion means less people doing good things in the name of god and still people fighting over race.
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                            • rambler
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Veterans Day
                              Hmm I never said they didnt, but plenty upon plenty of people keep a straight line life on faith based alone.
                              Doesn't that say a lot about those people.

                              So they have to be intimidated by the fact that they will go to hell if they are bad will only go to heaven if they are good.(basically if the fear of god wasn't there these people would go around doing "bad" things---is what you are saying?)

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                              • Veterans Day
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by rambler
                                Doesn't that say a lot about those people.

                                So they have to be intimidated by the fact that they will go to hell if they are bad will only go to heaven if they are good.(basically if the fear of god wasn't there these people would go around doing "bad" things---is what you are saying?)
                                Twist it anyway you want, all Im sayin is there are millions of people that have faith and believe in certain values, morals, what have you, which keeps them "inline" as you say. Lets say fear of the unknown
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                                • CoolE
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by kaliboy2g
                                  No religion means less people doing good things in the name of god and still people fighting over race.
                                  And what of the bad things? You conveniently fail to consider that in your reasoning.

                                  Here's the equation...

                                  Net Effect of Religion on the World = Good Things Done in the Name of Gods - Bad Things Done in the Name of Gods

                                  You would have to be brainwashed beyond belief if you think the result of that equation is greater than zero.

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                                  • kaliboy2g
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CoolE
                                    And what of the bad things? You conveniently fail to consider that in your reasoning.

                                    Here's the equation...

                                    Net Effect of Religion on the World = Good Things Done in the Name of Gods - Bad Things Done in the Name of Gods

                                    You would have to be brainwashed beyond belief if you think the result of that equation is greater than zero.

                                    That equation is impossible to solve but think about this.

                                    We get rid of religion, no more good things that are done in the name of God(s). But people are still going to fight over skin color, ethnicity, etc.

                                    So it would mean just as much fighting and bad things, but less good things done.
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                                    • Entropy
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                                      This thread is useless without logic...
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                                      • CoolE
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kaliboy2g
                                        That equation is impossible to solve but think about this.

                                        We get rid of religion, no more good things that are done in the name of God(s). But people are still going to fight over skin color, ethnicity, etc.

                                        So it would mean just as much fighting and bad things, but less good things done.
                                        Wrong. You are still assuming that no "bad things" are done by religions, and that's a nonstarter, because I could find 20 examples in one copy of any major newspaper on any given day. Open your eyes dude.

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                                        • kaliboy2g
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CoolE
                                          Wrong. You are still assuming that no "bad things" are done by religions, and that's a nonstarter, because I could find 20 examples in one copy of any major newspaper on any given day. Open your eyes dude.
                                          Dont kid yourself.

                                          There are "bad things" done in the name of religion. Im agree

                                          Just as people kill based on race and ethinicity.

                                          Dont you get it?

                                          If we had no religion we would still have the same shit happening, just instead it being blamed on different religions it will be blamed on different races or ethnicities.

                                          Based on your logic what do you plan to suggest next? That we all give up all personality and beliefs and have no religion and be considered all the same race and be exactly alike so that no one could possibley have a reson to do "bad things"
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                                          • kaliboy2g
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                                            Obviously if you open any "major" magazine you will find "bad thiings" balmed on religon. That shit sells for media outlets, if they focused on the good no one would buy.
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                                            • xclusive
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                                              Religion is just a face for greed it wouldn't help much

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                                              • Chris Malais
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                                                #24
                                                People don't live for life on earth. They live for a fake life after death. This is the main reason why Earth is so fucked up. No one cares about what's going on now, but would rather follow some old fake ass prophets instead. We need to give up on the tool that is nothing more than a war rally, and live for Earth.
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                                                • CoolE
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by kaliboy2g
                                                  Dont kid yourself.

                                                  There are "bad things" done in the name of religion. Im agree

                                                  Just as people kill based on race and ethinicity.

                                                  Dont you get it?

                                                  If we had no religion we would still have the same shit happening, just instead it being blamed on different religions it will be blamed on different races or ethnicities.

                                                  Based on your logic what do you plan to suggest next? That we all give up all personality and beliefs and have no religion and be considered all the same race and be exactly alike so that no one could possibley have a reson to do "bad things"
                                                  Basically what you are articulating is the Christian-Muslim myth that we can't be good with God; that without God and religion we would all be a bunch of savages raping and pillaging one another. It's a pile of bullshit - just one of several scare tactics used by the controlling religions to keep people from thinking freely. Not only is it possible to be good without God, it's easier to be good - you don't have any church leaders (like Bin Laden or Falwell) telling you to do things that you know in your heart, and your brain, are just plain wrong.

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                                                  • Chris Malais
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                                                    I also think that it's shitty to say that you can't disprove religion. It's like saying that you can't disprove that 22 13 32 12 32 will be the lotto numbers tomarrow.


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                                                    • kaliboy2g
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CoolE
                                                      Basically what you are articulating is the Christian-Muslim myth that we can't be good with God; that without God and religion we would all be a bunch of savages raping and pillaging one another. It's a pile of bullshit - just one of several scare tactics used by the controlling religions to keep people from thinking freely. Not only is it possible to be good without God, it's easier to be good - you don't have any church leaders (like Bin Laden or Falwell) telling you to do things that you know in your heart, and your brain, are just plain wrong.
                                                      In that case you are atriculating that religion is the only cause of wars and "bad things"
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                                                      • pornguy
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                                                        if they weren't fighting over religion, they would be fighting over cock sizes, right to kill wives, or whatever they can think of. Nothing will fix this world, religion or not.
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                                                        • rambler
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pornguy
                                                          if they weren't fighting over religion, they would be fighting over cock sizes, right to kill wives, or whatever they can think of. Nothing will fix this world, religion or not.
                                                          Eventually those who want to fight over stupid things will kill each other off ( natural selection) and the rest of the "normal" people can live happily ever after.(it probably comes as a surprise to all the idiots that there are actually "normal" people in this world who don't want to fight/kill over stupid things)

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                                                          • Chris Malais
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                                                            But then again, we have never lived in a god free world.
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                                                            • CoolE
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kaliboy2g
                                                              In that case you are atriculating that religion is the only cause of wars and "bad things"
                                                              Huh? I don't know where you got that idea from. I think you are gasping for intellectual air at this point.

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                                                              • rambler
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by CoolE
                                                                Huh? I don't know where you got that idea from. I think you are gasping for intellectual air at this point.
                                                                Judging by his(kaliboy) posts I think he is A) a postbot or B) mentally challenged or C) just trying to build up his post count
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