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  • Odin
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    • Jan 2004
    • 2545

    #1

    Britain gave Israel plutonium, files show

    Kind of interesting with all the Iran stuff going on:

    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/polit...727978,00.html

    Documents show that the decision to sell plutonium to Israel in 1966 was blocked by officials in both the Ministry of Defence and the Foreign Office, who said: "It is HMG's policy not to do anything which would assist Israel in the production of nuclear weapons." But the deal was forced through by a Jewish civil servant, Michael Michaels, in Tony Benn's Ministry of Technology, which was responsible for trade in nuclear material, according to Newsnight.

    Peter Kelly, who was British defence intelligence's expert on the Israeli nuclear weapons programme, knew Mr Michaels. He told Newsnight he believed Mr Michaels knew that Israel was trying to build an atomic bomb, but that he had dual loyalties to Britain and Israel.
    Sounds a bit like some of the prominent Zionists in America who promote certain wars with certain Arab nations no? Dual loyalties? Who would of thought. I guess you can't blame them, but it's amazing how many flag-waiving American's are ignorant to this and so willing to send their kids to fight some war that has nothing to do with them.
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  • stickyfingerz
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    • Oct 2005
    • 24984

    #2
    Originally posted by Chief
    Kind of interesting with all the Iran stuff going on:

    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/polit...727978,00.html



    Sounds a bit like some of the prominent Zionists in America who promote certain wars with certain Arab nations no? Dual loyalties? Who would of thought. I guess you can't blame them, but it's amazing how many flag-waiving American's are ignorant to this and so willing to send their kids to fight some war that has nothing to do with them.
    Ever see a map of what surrounds Israel?

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    • Odin
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      • Jan 2004
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      #3
      Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
      Ever see a map of what surrounds Israel?
      My point is that what surronds Israel should not be the concern of the West. We shouldn't be fighting wars with Arabs on their behalf, or supplying Israel with nuclear capabilities. Like I said, I am not suprised some Zionists wanted Israel to have nukes, or that Zionists helped push the US into a war with Iraq. Just as I am not suprised that Islamists want Iran to have nukes. However, an educated person should be aware of who is pulling what strings, so when the war drums begin to beat they don't send their sons, or the sons of others off to war because they believe they are an 'American Patriot' for doing so. It should not, and without such large pro-Israeli/Jewish powerbase in place it wouldn't, be a concern of the USA to protect Israel at all costs, to help supply them with nuclear weapons, to give them more AID than any other country on the planet and to essentially turn 1 billion people on the planet against you on behalf of one shitty little nation. Understand what I mean?
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      • DaLord
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        • Aug 2001
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        #4
        I demand the vikings back in England to restore order

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        • Blingbaby
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          • Mar 2006
          • 1079

          #5
          Originally posted by Chief
          My point is that what surronds Israel should not be the concern of the West. We shouldn't be fighting wars with Arabs on their behalf, or supplying Israel with nuclear capabilities. Like I said, I am not suprised some Zionists wanted Israel to have nukes, or that Zionists helped push the US into a war with Iraq. Just as I am not suprised that Islamists want Iran to have nukes. However, an educated person should be aware of who is pulling what strings, so when the war drums begin to beat they don't send their sons, or the sons of others off to war because they believe they are an 'American Patriot' for doing so. It should not, and without such large pro-Israeli/Jewish powerbase in place it wouldn't, be a concern of the USA to protect Israel at all costs, to help supply them with nuclear weapons, to give them more AID than any other country on the planet and to essentially turn 1 billion people on the planet against you on behalf of one shitty little nation. Understand what I mean?
          Your text is a bit clunky (try separating your thoughts into paragraphs) but I get the drift and I agree.

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          • Vlad
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            • Dec 2002
            • 2864

            #6
            Originally posted by DaLord
            I demand the vikings back in England to restore order
            yeah , right in the point

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            • jjjay
              Registered User
              • Jun 2005
              • 1813

              #7
              point 1 - the guardian is obsessed with israel, particularly being anti-israel. I imagine alot of students and muslims read it for this reason

              point 2 - a thread like this is like a magnet to anti-semites on this board. here's the count down to all the nazis hijacking this thread... 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 ...

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              • KRL
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                #8
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                • cranki
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                  • Feb 2005
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                  #9
                  files also show that britain gave israel its state, so whats the big deal?

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                  • jjjay
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                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1813

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cranki
                    files also show that britain gave israel its state, so whats the big deal?
                    I thought that was america?

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                    • Thumbler
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                      • Feb 2004
                      • 4076

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjjay
                      I thought that was america?
                      Only in the history books rewritten by the US!

                      The re-establishment of Israel was first promised by Britain as a thank you for help in world war one (1914-1918)

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                      • Grapesoda
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 46234

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chief
                        My point is that what surronds Israel should not be the concern of the West. We shouldn't be fighting wars with Arabs on their behalf, or supplying Israel with nuclear capabilities. Like I said, I am not suprised some Zionists wanted Israel to have nukes, or that Zionists helped push the US into a war with Iraq. Just as I am not suprised that Islamists want Iran to have nukes. However, an educated person should be aware of who is pulling what strings, so when the war drums begin to beat they don't send their sons, or the sons of others off to war because they believe they are an 'American Patriot' for doing so. It should not, and without such large pro-Israeli/Jewish powerbase in place it wouldn't, be a concern of the USA to protect Israel at all costs, to help supply them with nuclear weapons, to give them more AID than any other country on the planet and to essentially turn 1 billion people on the planet against you on behalf of one shitty little nation. Understand what I mean?
                        well chief . . . . actually every border in the middle east was drawn by the west . . . (and the borders around Russia were drawn by the Russians, and the Balkans were draw by the west after WWI and redrawn after WWII*). . . that area of the world is based on tribalism and there are no actual countries . . as far as the 'Israeli' question goes need I remind you the Arabs have LOST every war with Israel and are only demanding the land back that they LOST from sneak attacks . . I might also take this opportunity to point out that other than the oil money, which only goes to 2-3 tribes, almost the entire middle east is on welfare . . . As a matter of fact almost every Islamic 'entity/group/culture/county/tribe' is mostly on welfare

                        And I'll point this out real quick while I'm here too, the ATM machines where I live are in Spanish and English, most of the signs are in Spanish in areas of town, the #1 radio station in Los Angeles is Spanish . . And not one fucking Mexican stuck a bomb in his ass and walked into the mall.

                        Muslims/Islamic culture is incapable of any form of issue resolution. Especially in a form of 'social context' unless you are willing to do EXACTLY as the muslims/islamics tell you, they will kill you, cut the clit off yer GF, wife or daughters, stick a sack over the ladies heads and move happily onward.

                        Here are few relevant quotes from the powers that be . . . .

                        "Of course people don?t want war. Why should a poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best thing he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece??

                        Hermann Goering

                        "Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists?

                        Hermann Goering

                        ---------

                        * I read that the majority of the eastern European and Balkan areas didn't even have a writing language until the west supplied that shortly after WWI, BTW while we're on the subject of the Balkans most of the slaves in the middle east came from the Balkans and the word salve derives from 'Slavic' . . Slavery wasn't abolished in the middle east until about 1928 and they're still pissed about it . . It's only the west that has ever had an issue with slavery, the orient, the occident and most every other area of the planet considered slavery to be a very 'do able' solution and a very workable civilized way to conduct affaires.

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                        • cranki
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                          • Feb 2005
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Thumbler
                          Only in the history books rewritten by the US!

                          The re-establishment of Israel was first promised by Britain as a thank you for help in world war one (1914-1918)
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour...ration%2C_1917

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                          • u-Bob
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                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33063

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DaLord
                            I demand the vikings back in England to restore order

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                            • Thumbler
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                              • Feb 2004
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                              #15
                              Well I was close

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                              • jjjay
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                                • Jun 2005
                                • 1813

                                #16
                                officially became a state in 1948 according to wikipedia:

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declara...tate_of_Israel

                                don't always trust wiki as 100% factually correct though, for obvious reasons

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                                • Manowar
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                                  • Dec 2003
                                  • 71528

                                  #17
                                  Doesn't suprise me

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                                  • Thumbler
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                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 4076

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjjay
                                    officially became a state in 1948 according to wikipedia:

                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declara...tate_of_Israel

                                    don't always trust wiki as 100% factually correct though, for obvious reasons
                                    That is in fact a fact - after making the promise in 1917, the Brits shafted them

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                                    • cykoe6
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                                      • Apr 2005
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                                      #19
                                      I am curious what on earth Chief's Jew hating thread of the day has to do with the adult webmastering business. There are plenty of sites that cater to your particular type of interest like Stormfront, National Vanguard etc. Why dont you go there and share all of your insights with people who might be interested in your point of bview.
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                                      • Grapesoda
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 46234

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by cykoe6
                                        I am curious what on earth Chief's Jew hating thread of the day has to do with the adult webmastering business. There are plenty of sites that cater to your particular type of interest like Stormfront, National Vanguard etc. Why dont you go there and share all of your insights with people who might be interested in your point of bview.

                                        if i don't want my children killed to support isral does that make me a jew hater?

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                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 24984

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bmb
                                          if i don't want my children killed to support isral does that make me a jew hater?
                                          Israel's military can take care of itself pretty much. Some of the most advanced technology on the planet that they use.

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                                          • Mike Seth
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                                            • Feb 2006
                                            • 88

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                            Israel's military can take care of itself pretty much. Some of the most advanced technology on the planet that they use.
                                            Yes, we can. Just remember that if we fall, you - America and Europe - are the next on their list.
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                                            • Grapesoda
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 46234

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                              Israel's military can take care of itself pretty much. Some of the most advanced technology on the planet that they use.
                                              then we can stop the 1+ billion per year in forgein aid and help people here in the us?

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                                              • directfiesta
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                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 30142

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by cykoe6
                                                I am curious what on earth Chief's Jew hating thread of the day has to do with the adult webmastering business. There are plenty of sites that cater to your particular type of interest like Stormfront, National Vanguard etc. Why dont you go there and share all of your insights with people who might be interested in your point of bview.
                                                So if you post an article that says thruthfully that Canada has supplied weapons to Germany ( example purpose only ) , you automatically become a " Canadian Hater " ???

                                                So, nothing should be said about Israel unless you want to be labelled anti-semite.

                                                Let me tell you that there are more Jews outside of Israel than inside ... So by " not liking " Israel doesn't make a person an " anti-semite" but an " Anti-Israel" or " anti-zionist "

                                                Now you can move on with your labelling
                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                • s9ann0
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                                                  • Sep 2001
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                                                  #25
                                                  thats fucked up

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                                                  • sfera
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                                                    #26
                                                    well at least they are on our side

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                                                    • directfiesta
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                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 30142

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by sfera
                                                      well at least they are on our side

                                                      Are you sure ?
                                                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                      • psili
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                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 5526

                                                        #28
                                                        I say, make nukes available to everyone; every boy, girl, mother, father, grand pappy and grand mammy.

                                                        Come on. Why not?

                                                        Nukes don't kill people. They're just inanimate objects.
                                                        Your post count means nothing.

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                                                        • Webby
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                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by cranki
                                                          files also show that britain gave israel its state, so whats the big deal?

                                                          Originally posted by jjjay
                                                          I thought that was america?
                                                          Who?? Don't think so.
                                                          XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                          • Webby
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                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 14956

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by sfera
                                                            well at least they are on our side
                                                            Which side is "our side"??

                                                            The Israeli govt acts in the interests of Israel in much the same way as most govts do.

                                                            Israel also has probably one of the most efficient security services in the world and are not averse to theiving the secrets of other governments (including those on "our side") and also involved in commercial espionage.

                                                            Bottom line... it's not as simplistic as sides - Good luck to Israel and all Arab nations and hope they get the peace they want. These folks are the same as us - it's not an "us and them" scenario.
                                                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                            • cykoe6
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                                                              • 4499

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                              So if you post an article that says thruthfully that Canada has supplied weapons to Germany ( example purpose only ) , you automatically become a " Canadian Hater " ???

                                                              So, nothing should be said about Israel unless you want to be labelled anti-semite.

                                                              Let me tell you that there are more Jews outside of Israel than inside ... So by " not liking " Israel doesn't make a person an " anti-semite" but an " Anti-Israel" or " anti-zionist "

                                                              Now you can move on with your labelling
                                                              If you had read his initial post (I assume you can read) you would see that Chief is talking about
                                                              prominent Zionists in America who promote certain wars with certain Arab nations no? Dual loyalties? Who would of thought.
                                                              . He is therefore not talking about Israelis but American Jews with their "dual loyalties" manipulating the unwitting Americans into making sacrifices for the benefit of the Jews. This is textbook Elders of Zion style anti-Semitism.... but then again you already know that.
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                                                              • directfiesta
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 30142

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by cykoe6
                                                                If you had read his initial post (I assume you can read) you would see that Chief is talking about .
                                                                Clearly written: Proeminent Zionists.
                                                                So, at the most, his post could qualify as " anti-zionists " which is what I posted. You probably also can read
                                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                • sperbonzo
                                                                  I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 9750

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by bmb
                                                                  well chief . . . . actually every border in the middle east was drawn by the west . . . (and the borders around Russia were drawn by the Russians, and the Balkans were draw by the west after WWI and redrawn after WWII*). . . that area of the world is based on tribalism and there are no actual countries . . as far as the 'Israeli' question goes need I remind you the Arabs have LOST every war with Israel and are only demanding the land back that they LOST from sneak attacks . . I might also take this opportunity to point out that other than the oil money, which only goes to 2-3 tribes, almost the entire middle east is on welfare . . . As a matter of fact almost every Islamic 'entity/group/culture/county/tribe' is mostly on welfare

                                                                  And I'll point this out real quick while I'm here too, the ATM machines where I live are in Spanish and English, most of the signs are in Spanish in areas of town, the #1 radio station in Los Angeles is Spanish . . And not one fucking Mexican stuck a bomb in his ass and walked into the mall.

                                                                  Muslims/Islamic culture is incapable of any form of issue resolution. Especially in a form of 'social context' unless you are willing to do EXACTLY as the muslims/islamics tell you, they will kill you, cut the clit off yer GF, wife or daughters, stick a sack over the ladies heads and move happily onward.

                                                                  Here are few relevant quotes from the powers that be . . . .

                                                                  "Of course people don?t want war. Why should a poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best thing he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece??

                                                                  Hermann Goering

                                                                  "Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists?

                                                                  Hermann Goering

                                                                  ---------

                                                                  * I read that the majority of the eastern European and Balkan areas didn't even have a writing language until the west supplied that shortly after WWI, BTW while we're on the subject of the Balkans most of the slaves in the middle east came from the Balkans and the word salve derives from 'Slavic' . . Slavery wasn't abolished in the middle east until about 1928 and they're still pissed about it . . It's only the west that has ever had an issue with slavery, the orient, the occident and most every other area of the planet considered slavery to be a very 'do able' solution and a very workable civilized way to conduct affaires.

                                                                  Amazing! I never thought to find a lucid post on this thread!

                                                                  *polite applause*
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                                                                  • adultfora
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DaLord
                                                                    I demand the vikings back in England to restore order
                                                                    Så kan de sgu lære det hehe
                                                                    yes i know - im a rabbit

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