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Is it true that TiffanyTeen quit her site?
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HereOriginally posted by BVFdoes somebody have her highschool pic? She's gone now...might as well post it.
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I think thinkx is just defending his single girl businessOriginally posted by BVFbecause if that bitch flakes, your new sales will be hurt and your rebills will go down the toilet, therefore wasting your time. If I was promoting single sites, I would ONLY promote it pps.
I had a girl shoot for me two years ago...Now the bitch thinks that she'll be the next American Idol and she tried to threaten me to take her pics down. I hope that bitch does become an American Idol so I can call KBizzle and market this sex tape I made with her.
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i wish her all the best in her future , maybe all this will just fizzle out and she can go back to normalcyComment
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Originally posted by DarkJediSomeone voiced the oppinion that she wants to continue to do it with her b/f, ditching Phil. (doesn't want to share money)
That very well could be also. It sure happens and it does sound like there is a new BF in the mix... lol everyones a webmaster. haha
Thing is.. there will only be one tiffany teen site and any knock off will bomb... they always do. Just like that TNA girl ( I think she wants to be "Ashley" now) thinks the grass will be greener on the other side. Whatever new solo site she trys to start.. it will never fly. They are branded and once branded... its next to impossible to rebrand ones self. Hell I think Tiffanyteen is close to two years. They could try... it will never happen.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Originally posted by bigdogthats messed up, really makes you think you need a solid contract with these girls
Thats the biggest mis-conception there is when it comes to solo sites. Those "contracts" are not worth the paper they are written on. When it comes down to it... it cant stop a person from pursuing his/her career which makes any sort of non-compete pretty much useless in this type situation. You can throw it around and pretend like it means something and some young models might even buy it, but a contract that restricts her from going somwhere else or starting a site on her own is pretty much useless. You can restrict them from using content you shot, but you cant stop them from making a living.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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phil is no dumbass he will have loads of backup content and i am sure he has something else in the pipeline.
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maybe youre right, thing is sweetnaturalgirl and im sure tiff too made a shitload of money, if you dont want a piece of the cake fine a lot of others want to, weve got mm sites like dutchteenamateurs to backup sales, nice n steady site lotsa members and steady income, you gotta take a chance once a while with a new site, if its a single model fine with me as long as she makes good money, i dont mind making a lot in a few monthsOriginally posted by BVFbecause if that bitch flakes, your new sales will be hurt and your rebills will go down the toilet, therefore wasting your time. If I was promoting single sites, I would ONLY promote it pps.
I had a girl shoot for me two years ago...Now the bitch thinks that she'll be the next American Idol and she tried to threaten me to take her pics down. I hope that bitch does become an American Idol so I can call KBizzle and market this sex tape I made with her.

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so true.Originally posted by galleryseekyeah i mean god, that would be so lame... actually growing up, ya know... into something other than a piece of meat sex object.. horrible i tell you, horrible.
The flamers dont have a clue. Or they just care about there nickels and cents.
She is like what, 24?
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idiot.Originally posted by ShoehornHAHAHA, awesome.
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like people don't make mistakes...Originally posted by MaggWhat a dumbass, I dont see how any girl can get into the biz and think people wont find out who she is/what she does...
FFS stupid ass people
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I saw one of my classmates on voyeurweb a year and a half ago. They got second price.... should I post there info?
Just to become a loser with no life and feelings.
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Originally posted by CorleoneI'm sure there is enough content to update it for a some time
I hope youre right. However, it really depends on the arrangment he had with the model. My understanding (convo with Phil a year or so ago) that she is on a revshare type pay structure. He may have all the content in the world, but not be able to use it if she is no longer profiting from it. I hope im wrong.
Im not trying to give Phil or anyone here a bad time at all. In fact.. I really feel for Phil. The model has to assume these risk regardless of how bad they suck. In the end.. its usually the webmaster that takes it in the ass when the model quits or is forced to quit when situations arise like this one.
I feel for Phil on this. Been there so I know what he might be going through. It was just a wake up call for me to change my business model as it relates to the models.
Best of luck Phil... it will pass ;)Last edited by PerfectionGirls; 01-09-2005, 12:33 PM.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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it's just part of pimpin...sometimes the hoe wants to split. Nothing you can do about it except find another hoe.Comment
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Anyone doing solo sites, here's my thought. I've got 3 solo sites and a bunch others. Prob close to 15 total.
1. Don't tell the girls the site. They aren't your friends and many of you forget that. These girls don't give a fuck about you, they see you as $$ that's it.
2. Shoot as much shit as you can
3. Don't bring your girls to shows. I backed out of one of the shows 2 yrs ago with one of my girls because I didn't want someone else filling up her lil head with the "grass is greener" shit. The same mother fucker will smile in your face and slip your girl their biz card. This biz is 100% cut throat!
4. Don't let the girls talk to the other girls, KEEP THAT SHIT SEPERATED! Do you guys think Tiffany isn't talking to Seanna, Nikki or those other girls? 18-21 yr old girls tend to think the same. Now Tiffany's mad, I'm sure she's gonna have some kinda of influence over the remaining.Comment
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When she's 30 years old...she'll brag that she used to be Tiffany Teen
WHen I first got in this biz I would be jealous of these pretty girls. They make tons of money and have lots of fun...But everything falls apart for them quickly. The fun only lasts a few years and then they go back to being trailer trash.Comment
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has a girl ever asked you what site they can find their pics at?Originally posted by sweetcutiesAnyone doing solo sites, here's my thought. I've got 3 solo sites and a bunch others. Prob close to 15 total.
1. Don't tell the girls the site. They aren't your friends and many of you forget that. These girls don't give a fuck about you, they see you as $$ that's it.
2. Shoot as much shit as you can
3. Don't bring your girls to shows. I backed out of one of the shows 2 yrs ago with one of my girls because I didn't want someone else filling up her lil head with the "grass is greener" shit. The same mother fucker will smile in your face and slip your girl their biz card. This biz is 100% cut throat!
4. Don't let the girls talk to the other girls, KEEP THAT SHIT SEPERATED! Do you guys think Tiffany isn't talking to Seanna, Nikki or those other girls? 18-21 yr old girls tend to think the same. Now Tiffany's mad, I'm sure she's gonna have some kinda of influence over the remaining.Comment
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I would not say thats true... look at melissa midwest... she is doing better than everOriginally posted by PerfectionGirlsThat very well could be also. It sure happens and it does sound like there is a new BF in the mix... lol everyones a webmaster. haha
Thing is.. there will only be one tiffany teen site and any knock off will bomb... they always do. Just like that TNA girl ( I think she wants to be "Ashley" now) thinks the grass will be greener on the other side. Whatever new solo site she trys to start.. it will never fly. They are branded and once branded... its next to impossible to rebrand ones self. Hell I think Tiffanyteen is close to two years. They could try... it will never happen.Comment
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true.. no girls are smart enough to actually make a living on their own outside of pornOriginally posted by YoungSoon as the money runs out...she'll come back wearing the number 45.
tard boy needs help to think outside his box.Comment
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and are you still sitting in your trailor?Originally posted by mockingbichWhen she's 30 years old...she'll brag that she used to be Tiffany Teen
WHen I first got in this biz I would be jealous of these pretty girls. They make tons of money and have lots of fun...But everything falls apart for them quickly. The fun only lasts a few years and then they go back to being trailer trash.
man, some of you definatley need to get out more and realize their is more to life than porn ...idiotsComment
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You got to think she is non-nude phil can only take here so far that way. I am thinking she quit todo some hardcore porn with her BF. Boy would that be great!Last edited by Funky Bastard; 01-09-2005, 02:14 PM.Comment
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Goodbye Tiffany. Enjoy the stripper life.The Gay Market Is Where The Money's At!
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Ok, there has been alot of misconceptions in this thread, I'am tiffany's Fiance and she is quitting the business for many reasons, last week we were enjoying a double mocha caramal frapachino at starbucks when a man came up for her autograph.. She was very upset. The full story is below.
After the two delightful evenings spent yesterday and the day before, I shall certainly not go out tonight, but will sit here at home and write to you. Besides, my Adele, my adorable and adored Adele, what have I not to tell you? O, God! for two days, I have been asking myself every moment if such happiness is not a dream. It seems to me that what I feel is not of earth. I cannot yet comprehend this cloudless heaven. If you have not figured it out yet, I do not even know Tiffany Teen, but clueless people on gfy always believe long posts. You do not yet know, Adele, to what I had resigned myself. Alas, do I know it myself? Because I was weak, I fancied I was calm; because I was preparing myself for all the mad follies of despair, I thought I was courageous and resigned. Ah! let me cast myself humbly at your feet, you who are so grand, so tender and strong! I imagine some of you fools wont even read this far, yet will quote it saying "wow"
I had been thinking that the utmost limit of my devotion could only be the sacrifice of my life; but you, my generous love, were ready to sacrifice for me the repose of yours. You have been privileged to receive every gift from nature, you have both fortitude and tears. Oh, Adele, do not mistake these words for blind enthusiasm - enthusiasm for you has lasted all my life, and increased day by day.
My whole soul is yours. If my entire existence had not been yours, the harmony of my being would have been lost, and I must have died -- died inevitably.These were my meditations, Adele, when the letter that was to bring me hope of else despair arrived. If you love me, you know what must have been my joy. What I know you may have felt, I will not describe.
My Adele, why is there no word for this but joy? Is it because there is no power in human speech to express such happiness? I would like to give a shout out to my nigga's in the east.
The sudden bound from mournful resignation to infinite felicity seemed to upset me. Even now I am still beside myself and sometimes I tremble lest I should suddenly awaken from this dream divine. Oh, now you are mine! At last you are mine! Soon -- in a few months, perhaps, my angel will sleep in my arms, will awaken in my arms, will live there. All your thoughts at all moments, all your looks will be for me; all my thoughts, all my moments, all my looks, will be for you! My Adele! Adieu, my angel, my beloved Adele! Adieu! I will kiss your hair and go to bed. Still I am far from you, but I can dream of you. Soon perhaps you will be at my side. Adieu; pardon the delirium of your husband who embraces you, and who adores you, both for this life and another.
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So you're the one marrying Tiffany Teen huh?Originally posted by PipecrewOk, there has been alot of misconceptions in this thread, I'am tiffany's Fiance and she is quitting the business for many reasons, last week we were enjoying a double mocha caramal frapachino at starbucks when a man came up for her autograph.. She was very upset. The full story is below.
After the two delightful evenings spent yesterday and the day before, I shall certainly not go out tonight, but will sit here at home and write to you. Besides, my Adele, my adorable and adored Adele, what have I not to tell you? O, God! for two days, I have been asking myself every moment if such happiness is not a dream. It seems to me that what I feel is not of earth. I cannot yet comprehend this cloudless heaven. If you have not figured it out yet, I do not even know Tiffany Teen, but clueless people on gfy always believe long posts. You do not yet know, Adele, to what I had resigned myself. Alas, do I know it myself? Because I was weak, I fancied I was calm; because I was preparing myself for all the mad follies of despair, I thought I was courageous and resigned. Ah! let me cast myself humbly at your feet, you who are so grand, so tender and strong! I imagine some of you fools wont even read this far, yet will quote it saying "wow"
I had been thinking that the utmost limit of my devotion could only be the sacrifice of my life; but you, my generous love, were ready to sacrifice for me the repose of yours. You have been privileged to receive every gift from nature, you have both fortitude and tears. Oh, Adele, do not mistake these words for blind enthusiasm - enthusiasm for you has lasted all my life, and increased day by day.
My whole soul is yours. If my entire existence had not been yours, the harmony of my being would have been lost, and I must have died -- died inevitably.These were my meditations, Adele, when the letter that was to bring me hope of else despair arrived. If you love me, you know what must have been my joy. What I know you may have felt, I will not describe.
My Adele, why is there no word for this but joy? Is it because there is no power in human speech to express such happiness? I would like to give a shout out to my nigga's in the east.
The sudden bound from mournful resignation to infinite felicity seemed to upset me. Even now I am still beside myself and sometimes I tremble lest I should suddenly awaken from this dream divine. Oh, now you are mine! At last you are mine! Soon -- in a few months, perhaps, my angel will sleep in my arms, will awaken in my arms, will live there. All your thoughts at all moments, all your looks will be for me; all my thoughts, all my moments, all my looks, will be for you! My Adele! Adieu, my angel, my beloved Adele! Adieu! I will kiss your hair and go to bed. Still I am far from you, but I can dream of you. Soon perhaps you will be at my side. Adieu; pardon the delirium of your husband who embraces you, and who adores you, both for this life and another.
Now you know the full story
Jason and Tiffany

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Doing what? Last I heard she shut her site down. Also, the interesting thing is you called her "melissa midwest". Her original branding still going strong. If you are referring to her DA site then yeah, but thats where she started so my theory is intact.Originally posted by xApsterI would not say thats true... look at melissa midwest... she is doing better than ever
Her "break out" site is gone and last Ive heard is she found some BF at school and is out of the biz.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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She was in Vegas, I talked to her at the Extreme Fetish party. Someone told me she was married.Originally posted by PerfectionGirlsHer "break out" site is gone and last Ive heard is she found some BF at school and is out of the biz.
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Nope, its still going strong.Originally posted by PerfectionGirlsDoing what? Last I heard she shut her site down. Also, the interesting thing is you called her "melissa midwest". Her original branding still going strong. If you are referring to her DA site then yeah, but thats where she started so my theory is intact.
Her "break out" site is gone and last Ive heard is she found some BF at school and is out of the biz.
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Shit! Wrong girl guys... I was thinking Midwest Mandy! Uggg my bad!Originally posted by ShoehornShe was in Vegas, I talked to her at the Extreme Fetish party. Someone told me she was married.
Yeah... wel Mellisa was being ripped off and shes didnt run from her webmaster thinking she could take it all over. Her webmaster run her out do to many, many reasons!
More power to her! We send her traffic and do great with her.
However, shes not the same issues as trying to rebrand herself.Last edited by PerfectionGirls; 01-09-2005, 02:49 PM.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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nope http://www.melissamidwest.com/Originally posted by PerfectionGirlsHer "break out" site is gone and last Ive heard is she found some BF at school and is out of the biz.Comment
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Yeah... my bad. I had the wrong girl. See my post above yours.Originally posted by BVF
Sorry
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might you be referring to midwestmandy?Originally posted by PerfectionGirlsDoing what? Last I heard she shut her site down. Also, the interesting thing is you called her "melissa midwest". Her original branding still going strong. If you are referring to her DA site then yeah, but thats where she started so my theory is intact.
Her "break out" site is gone and last Ive heard is she found some BF at school and is out of the biz.Comment
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Not at all true. She had problems with the people that originally did her site and ripped her off. And started a new site. Their new site is doing really well. Its the girl and the marketing that gets signups not the domain name.Originally posted by PerfectionGirlsDoing what? Last I heard she shut her site down. Also, the interesting thing is you called her "melissa midwest". Her original branding still going strong. If you are referring to her DA site then yeah, but thats where she started so my theory is intact.
Her "break out" site is gone and last Ive heard is she found some BF at school and is out of the biz.
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Originally posted by LAMikeNot at all true. She had problems with the people that originally did her site and ripped her off. And started a new site. Their new site is doing really well. Its the girl and the marketing that gets signups not the domain name.

lol, sorry I just saw your correction
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Depends on wich school you went to ;)Originally posted by maxjohanI saw one of my classmates on voyeurweb a year and a half ago. They got second price.... should I post there info?Comment
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here is one of those great problems in this business: let's say I promote a girl's site on a revshare. Suddenly she decides to quit and all the revshare renewals go down the toilet. I am sort of wondering if that sort of "just decided to stop" isn't a breech of contract with each individual webmaster in the program, and as such, is actionable as a class action (wouldn't that be special?).
I am not clear on the terms, but can a site just "disappear" like that and have all the recurs blow up without any legal issues?
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Check out evalovescum.com. $25 per signup and lots of FRESH content!!!Originally posted by BVFbecause if that bitch flakes, your new sales will be hurt and your rebills will go down the toilet, therefore wasting your time. If I was promoting single sites, I would ONLY promote it pps.

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thats great dudeOriginally posted by BVFI had a girl shoot for me two years ago...Now the bitch thinks that she'll be the next American Idol and she tried to threaten me to take her pics down. I hope that bitch does become an American Idol so I can call KBizzle and market this sex tape I made with her.
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