Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Smokey I will gladly debate this with you.

Since what I am about to say is a matter of public record now and the case was beat plus the statute of limitations has expired, I feel ok talking.
I assisted a great deal with the passing of prop 215 in California. I was also one of the very first to open up a "co-op club", specially anywhere out of the bay area (Oakland/SF). I was present at more than one raid at Dennis's establishment (SF). I also had my club shut down and was brought up on charges. I even had the lovely documents stating The United States of America Vs. Me, conspiracy to distribute and produce; Minimum sentence 10 years, maximum sentence life. So alas I have the "background & knowledge".

For me it was all about costs. The patients could not afford "street" prices, hell even SF and Oakland prices were absurd. Working with assorted professionals, large indoor spaces, and obtaining proper genetic strains. We cut our costs from 600.00 a pound to roughly ten percent of that.

Everything was indoor hydro, MH/HPS bulbs, track systems, Mylar sheeting, climate controlled, Co2, oxygenated water, commercial power rates, and so on. Our biggest expense was literally cutting/manicuring costs. Everything of course matters on the scale of operation as well. When we got shut down 3,700 plants were taken from one area and another 4,500 clones. Not counting the mothers and such.