Which Hotel California is the real Hotel California

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Shoehorn!
    Die With Your Boots On
    • Oct 2003
    • 22872

    #1

    Which Hotel California is the real Hotel California

    I am trying to find out which Hotel California the Eagles sing about in Hotel California, but there are a shitload of hotels that call themself that. Theres even a Hotel California in Barcelona and Zurich. Anyone have a link to the "real" Hotel California?
  • Manowar
    jellyfish  
    • Dec 2003
    • 71528

    #2
    wasnt the 'hotel california' a metaphor ?

    Comment

    • boneprone
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2001
      • 34415

      #3
      Originally posted by Manowar
      wasnt the 'hotel california' a metaphor ?
      yep..

      thats the joke.

      It doesnt really exist.

      Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
      Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
      http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
      Learn about it kids.

      Comment

      • Shoehorn!
        Die With Your Boots On
        • Oct 2003
        • 22872

        #4
        Originally posted by Manowar
        wasnt the 'hotel california' a metaphor ?
        Eh, I dunno. The album cover has a picture of a hotel, and one of my friends who lived in California took a picture of the same hotel that was on the album. I guess I could call him and ask where it was, but I figured someone here would be able to post a link to the official site or someplace that has information on reservations and stuff.

        Comment

        • Manowar
          jellyfish  
          • Dec 2003
          • 71528

          #5
          Originally posted by Shoehorn
          Eh, I dunno. The album cover has a picture of a hotel, and one of my friends who lived in California took a picture of the same hotel that was on the album. I guess I could call him and ask where it was, but I figured someone here would be able to post a link to the official site or someplace that has information on reservations and stuff.
          Interesting Read -
          http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/hotel.htm

          "Some believe the song was written about a real inn bearing that name. Though there is a Hotel California in Todos Santos, a town on Mexico's Baja California peninsula, its relation to the song begins and ends with the coincidence of a shared name. None of the Eagles stayed there, let alone wrote music there. Nor did they have this building in mind when they set down the lyrics to this popular song.

          Those who persist in believing the song must be named after an actual building have been known to assert "Hotel California" was the nickname of the Camarillo State Hospital, a state-run psychiatric hospital near Los Angeles which housed thousands of patients across its sixty-year history before closing in 1997. To them, the lyrics seem to fit what a mentally disturbed person would experience upon incarceration in a long-term care facility. The imagery of the song is explained as that person's hallucinations juxtaposed against moments of startling clarity as he realizes where he is. "

          Comment

          • Shoehorn!
            Die With Your Boots On
            • Oct 2003
            • 22872

            #6
            Originally posted by boneprone
            yep..

            thats the joke.

            It doesnt really exist.
            Hmm, interesting. Well, I guess the hotel on the cover is the next best thing, anyone know where that is and what its called?

            Comment

            • TurboAngel
              H.B.I.C.
              • Jun 2003
              • 30122

              #7
              Originally posted by Manowar
              Interesting Read -
              http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/hotel.htm

              "Some believe the song was written about a real inn bearing that name. Though there is a Hotel California in Todos Santos, a town on Mexico's Baja California peninsula, its relation to the song begins and ends with the coincidence of a shared name. None of the Eagles stayed there, let alone wrote music there. Nor did they have this building in mind when they set down the lyrics to this popular song.

              Those who persist in believing the song must be named after an actual building have been known to assert "Hotel California" was the nickname of the Camarillo State Hospital, a state-run psychiatric hospital near Los Angeles which housed thousands of patients across its sixty-year history before closing in 1997. To them, the lyrics seem to fit what a mentally disturbed person would experience upon incarceration in a long-term care facility. The imagery of the song is explained as that person's hallucinations juxtaposed against moments of startling clarity as he realizes where he is. "


              I didn't know that, thanks!

              Comment

              • Shoehorn!
                Die With Your Boots On
                • Oct 2003
                • 22872

                #8
                Originally posted by Manowar
                Interesting Read -
                http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/hotel.htm

                "Some believe the song was written about a real inn bearing that name. Though there is a Hotel California in Todos Santos, a town on Mexico's Baja California peninsula, its relation to the song begins and ends with the coincidence of a shared name. None of the Eagles stayed there, let alone wrote music there. Nor did they have this building in mind when they set down the lyrics to this popular song.

                Those who persist in believing the song must be named after an actual building have been known to assert "Hotel California" was the nickname of the Camarillo State Hospital, a state-run psychiatric hospital near Los Angeles which housed thousands of patients across its sixty-year history before closing in 1997. To them, the lyrics seem to fit what a mentally disturbed person would experience upon incarceration in a long-term care facility. The imagery of the song is explained as that person's hallucinations juxtaposed against moments of startling clarity as he realizes where he is. "
                Wow, cool. Snopes is awesome. Nice find.

                Comment

                • Turboface
                  Back in Black
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 9976

                  #9
                  Actually, that quote there about the 'psychiatric hospital theory' is just one of many urban legends mentioned on that site there - http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/hotel.htm

                  If you read the whole thing, this is the conclusion to it here:

                  The truth proves far less satisfying than the myriad rumors that have sprung up around this song.

                  Hotel California is an allegory about hedonism and greed in Southern California in the 1970s. At the time of its release, the Eagles were riding high in the music world, experiencing material success on a frightening level. Though they thoroughly enjoyed the money, drugs, and women fame threw their way, they were disquieted by it all and sought to pour that sense of unease into their music and to warn others about the dark underside of such adulation.

                  In a 1995 interview, Don Henley said the song "sort of captured the zeitgeist of the time, which was a time of great excess in this country and in the music business in particular." In another interview that same year, he referred to it as being about a "loss of innocence."

                  The album has as its underlying theme the corruption of impressionable rock stars by the decadent Los Angeles music industry. The celebrated title track presents California as a gilded prison the artist freely enters only to discover that he cannot later escape.

                  The real Hotel California is not a place; it is a metaphor for the west coast music industry and its effect on the talented but unworldy musicians who find themselves ensnared in its glittering web.
                  Search Engine Optimization Services for Adult Sites

                  Comment

                  • mardigras
                    Bon temps!
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 14194

                    #10
                    http://www.superseventies.com/ac4hotelcalifornia.html
                    .

                    Comment

                    • kaliboy2g
                      So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 10963

                      #11
                      "But you cant ever leave...."

                      DOnt you get it.

                      Its talking about a mental institution.
                      Care about me?
                      Who?
                      Me!
                      Who?

                      Comment

                      • Fatalspeed
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 2101

                        #12
                        interesting stuff, didn't know that.

                        great oldie btw
                        Faber est quisque fortunae suae

                        Comment

                        • Holly
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 10017

                          #13
                          For some reason, I always thought it was about devil worshipers.

                          I think one of my friends' older brother or sister must have told us that.
                          War National Damn Champions Eagle

                          Comment

                          • xclusive
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 35218

                            #14
                            Gotta love snopes

                            I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


                            Comment

                            • Entropy
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2004
                              • 4128

                              #15
                              I always thought it was talking about death.
                              The Gay Market Is Where The Money's At!
                              AlleyBucks Is The Queer Eye For Straight Webmaster Guys
                              CCBill Based Affiliate Program With Hosted Galleries


                              ICQ: 226-359-635

                              Comment

                              • eroswebmaster
                                March 1st, 2003
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 20295

                                #16
                                Look closely and you'll see Anton Lavey
                                For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
                                Click here for more details

                                Comment

                                • mardigras
                                  Bon temps!
                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 14194

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                  Look closely and you'll see Anton Lavey
                                  Read the link I posted above. The photographer was not aware of anyone there at the time of the shot so their identity is actually unknown. The shot is of the Beverly Hills Hotel from a sixty-foot cherry picker during rush-hour traffic on Sunset Boulevard.
                                  .

                                  Comment

                                  • eroswebmaster
                                    March 1st, 2003
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 20295

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mardigras
                                    Read the link I posted above. The photographer was not aware of anyone there at the time of the shot so their identity is actually unknown. The shot is of the Beverly Hills Hotel from a sixty-foot cherry picker during rush-hour traffic on Sunset Boulevard.
                                    Snopes also says it was a woman they hired for the shoot...oh well...it still looks a lot like Anton Lavey.
                                    For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
                                    Click here for more details

                                    Comment

                                    • CET
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 2754

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Manowar
                                      Interesting Read -
                                      http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/hotel.htm

                                      "Some believe the song was written about a real inn bearing that name. Though there is a Hotel California in Todos Santos, a town on Mexico's Baja California peninsula, its relation to the song begins and ends with the coincidence of a shared name. None of the Eagles stayed there, let alone wrote music there. Nor did they have this building in mind when they set down the lyrics to this popular song.

                                      Those who persist in believing the song must be named after an actual building have been known to assert "Hotel California" was the nickname of the Camarillo State Hospital, a state-run psychiatric hospital near Los Angeles which housed thousands of patients across its sixty-year history before closing in 1997. To them, the lyrics seem to fit what a mentally disturbed person would experience upon incarceration in a long-term care facility. The imagery of the song is explained as that person's hallucinations juxtaposed against moments of startling clarity as he realizes where he is. "
                                      Congrats on getting to it before me. I was stationed at Point Mugu, just down the road from Camarillo, which had the psychiatric hospital. It is now closed, so I was not able to visit it.
                                      Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!

                                      Fitness and nutrition writer, and UNIX/Linux Sys Ad in training

                                      "Just as a man who has fallen into a heap of filth ought to seek the great pond of water covered with lotuses, which is near by: even so seek thou for the great deathless lake of Nirvana to wash off the defilement of wrong. If the lake is not sought, it is not the fault of the lake."

                                      Comment

                                      • TKoProductions
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 673

                                        #20
                                        For those of you that don't know. The psychiatric hospital was bought by the State of California, and turned into the new California State University Channel Islands. I've visited the campus, and needless to say it's quite the experience; titled walls, bars on the windows, small rooms, and long narrow corridors.

                                        The joke is that they didn't have to look very far for professors.

                                        Comment

                                        • Shoehorn!
                                          Die With Your Boots On
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 22872

                                          #21

                                          Comment

                                          • Babaganoosh
                                            ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥
                                            • Nov 2001
                                            • 15841

                                            #22
                                            I like pie.

                                            Comment

                                            • Nicky
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 30071

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by TKoProductions
                                              For those of you that don't know. The psychiatric hospital was bought by the State of California, and turned into the new California State University Channel Islands. I've visited the campus, and needless to say it's quite the experience; titled walls, bars on the windows, small rooms, and long narrow corridors.

                                              The joke is that they didn't have to look very far for professors.

                                              good one

                                              gfynicky @ gmail.com

                                              Comment

                                              • Shoehorn!
                                                Die With Your Boots On
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 22872

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Armed & Hammered

                                                Comment

                                                Working...