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  • Dirty Dane
    Sick Fuck
    • Feb 2004
    • 9491

    #1

    Sponsors that "allows" spam, seriously...

    I've been in touch with tons of traders i.e. affiliates this week which has had problems with spammer(s) last couple of months. I'm talking about spamming at affiliates guestbooks, boards etc which is often part of a website, probably with advanced postbots or whatever. Big scale spamming.

    Now, the concern is not the spamming itself. That can be dealt with. But that sponsors dont react or read it when the spam is reported, even with detailed attached proofs of the spammings offered.

    I mean, a few affiliates that spam on such large scale, are they more worth to you, than the other 100s of affiliates that have to deal with this bullshit on their websites?? Many of the affiliates are exactly not small ones and they might be promoting the same programs as the spammers. It really pisses people off, and now it have to end. Right now! Its time to pick some choices here.

    PS! On behalf of everyone involved, I would like to thank those who has already reacted.
  • sean416
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2004
    • 3633

    #2
    I have reported spam to a bunch of affiliate programs and not once received a reply.

    ServerProvider.com

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    • Dildozer
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2002
      • 7519

      #3
      Boo fuckin hooo!!!!
      I'm getting owned by other affiliates and i can't make any money on the internet! I'm gonna complain about other affiliates so MAYBE i can get a sale.


      Go back to Wendy's retard
      Spam link here

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      • Dirty Dane
        Sick Fuck
        • Feb 2004
        • 9491

        #4
        Originally posted by Dildozer
        Boo fuckin hooo!!!!
        I'm getting owned by other affiliates and i can't make any money on the internet! I'm gonna complain about other affiliates so MAYBE i can get a sale.


        Go back to Wendy's retard
        Yeah, I make no money... so I should probably just start spamming myself. Oh wait!!! just checked my stats and made 62 sales today...hmmm...

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        • Dildozer
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2002
          • 7519

          #5
          Originally posted by Dirty Dane
          Yeah, I make no money... so I should probably just start spamming myself. Oh wait!!! just checked my stats and made 62 sales today...hmmm...
          Good for you, yet you find the time to cry like a baby. Maybe you don't deserve to make sales at all
          Spam link here

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          • kmanrox
            aka K-Man
            • Oct 2001
            • 29295

            #6
            once you become an established member of the webmaster community, 100% of all the affiliate programs will allow you to send bulk mail
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            • Napolean
              Misanthropic Egalitarian
              • Nov 2002
              • 4330

              #7
              hrmm... whats the word im looking for, oh yeah "moderation"
              HAH! FOUND IT FRIS

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              • Dirty Dane
                Sick Fuck
                • Feb 2004
                • 9491

                #8
                Originally posted by kmanrox
                once you become an established member of the webmaster community, 100% of all the affiliate programs will allow you to send bulk mail
                I know, but this is not emails. It is posting on websites (forums, guestbooks etc). In total Im talking about millions of surfers affected on those sites.

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                • Dirty Dane
                  Sick Fuck
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 9491

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dildozer
                  Good for you, yet you find the time to cry like a baby. Maybe you don't deserve to make sales at all
                  I play by the rules. How is your site?

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                  • candyflip
                    Carpe Visio
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 43073

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                    I know, but this is not emails. It is posting on websites (forums, guestbooks etc). In total Im talking about millions of surfers affected on those sites.
                    If you make this option available to them, it will be used.

                    Don't want it? Don't allow any posting on your sites or spend a lot of time fighting against it.

                    Some will hire you to help them fight it and let YOU be the only one to "spam" their system. (banana is the new groucho)

                    Spend you some brain.
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                    • Dildozer
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 7519

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                      I play by the rules. How is your site?
                      Some spam pisses me off I agree, i don't go around reporting everyone like a crybaby however. Then again I don't brag of having 62 4free joins
                      My sites are doing better than ever thank you.
                      Spam link here

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                      • Dirty Dane
                        Sick Fuck
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 9491

                        #12
                        Originally posted by candyflip
                        If you make this option available to them, it will be used.

                        Don't want it? Don't allow any posting on your sites or spend a lot of time fighting against it.

                        Some will hire you to help them fight it and let YOU be the only one to "spam" their system. (banana is the new groucho)
                        Of course, but its more complicated than that. Many forums, many members, with the same problems, and suddenly they should close it for member postings because of some few spammers? I dont think so. There are many moderators and scripts installed, but it wont simply do it. Reporting spammers is the last thing to do, and then it is really dissappointment that nothing happens. Im talking about "pro" russian spammers here, that systematicly rape the websites

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                        • Dirty Dane
                          Sick Fuck
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 9491

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dildozer
                          Some spam pisses me off I agree, i don't go around reporting everyone like a crybaby however. Then again I don't brag of having 62 4free joins
                          My sites are doing better than ever thank you.
                          You dont get it do you? Its not about whining about everyone. Its many webmasters that have problems with some few spammers. Probably one person or a "company". It has not been a problem for years, but now it is. I could compare it and say someone postboted a new topic at GFY every minute, and there is nothing they could do to stop it. Except take him out, by some help from the sponsors. If the sponsors give a shit, then what?
                          Last edited by Dirty Dane; 01-08-2005, 09:19 AM.

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                          • Serious-Partner
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 2585

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                            I play by the rules. How is your site?
                            Dirty Dane, hit me on icq #8484813..

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                            • gemini44
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 2

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                              I've been in touch with tons of traders i.e. affiliates this week which has had problems with spammer(s) last couple of months. I'm talking about spamming at affiliates guestbooks, boards etc which is often part of a website, probably with advanced postbots or whatever. Big scale spamming.

                              Now, the concern is not the spamming itself. That can be dealt with. But that sponsors dont react or read it when the spam is reported, even with detailed attached proofs of the spammings offered.

                              I mean, a few affiliates that spam on such large scale, are they more worth to you, than the other 100s of affiliates that have to deal with this bullshit on their websites?? Many of the affiliates are exactly not small ones and they might be promoting the same programs as the spammers. It really pisses people off, and now it have to end. Right now! Its time to pick some choices here.

                              PS! On behalf of everyone involved, I would like to thank those who has already reacted.

                              I have to agree with DirtyDane,I fucking hate these spamming viagra ad jerkoffs!! I mean if our customers are looking at porn that we produce or promote (these junkmail telemarketing kind of spammers are trying to and in some cases are getting in the way of sales) they should be able to look at it freely w/out having to think how limp their dicks are .I mean dont you hate when you sit down to dinner and get a call about switching long distance calling plans or all that shit you get in your E-mail boxes (like these viagra ads ciallis etc.) or even the dumbass commercials on T.V. today that start out with a woman jogging in the park and go on for 2 minutes w/out telling you what they are promoting then at the end of it they say ask your doctor what it can do for you,only later do you find out that it was a commercial for herpies or some other STD.This kind of shit sucks I dont have herpies I dont have a limp dick and I dont want to hear about medicines or drugs to treat these things (especially when I look at links) it's irritating and I know that customers dont like it.just my opinion (if ya dont like it go fuck yourself)

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                              • Crypt
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 2225

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                I've been in touch with tons of traders i.e. affiliates this week which has had problems with spammer(s) last couple of months. I'm talking about spamming at affiliates guestbooks, boards etc which is often part of a website, probably with advanced postbots or whatever. Big scale spamming.

                                Now, the concern is not the spamming itself. That can be dealt with. But that sponsors dont react or read it when the spam is reported, even with detailed attached proofs of the spammings offered.

                                I mean, a few affiliates that spam on such large scale, are they more worth to you, than the other 100s of affiliates that have to deal with this bullshit on their websites?? Many of the affiliates are exactly not small ones and they might be promoting the same programs as the spammers. It really pisses people off, and now it have to end. Right now! Its time to pick some choices here.

                                PS! On behalf of everyone involved, I would like to thank those who has already reacted.

                                Boo hooo!!! sniff sniff !

                                Go back burger king!

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                                • TheMob
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 8584

                                  #17
                                  so what's the deal again? spam?

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                                  • Dirty Dane
                                    Sick Fuck
                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 9491

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Crypt
                                    Boo hooo!!! sniff sniff !

                                    Go back burger king!
                                    I dont worry about that, I got it all covered.
                                    Spammers and their sponsors should be the one worry however, whats coming up with visa in few months.
                                    You also one of the spammers who are afraid of people fighting spam?
                                    Last edited by Dirty Dane; 01-08-2005, 01:19 PM.

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                                    • Crypt
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 2225

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                      I dont worry about that, I got it all covered.
                                      Spammers and their sponsors should be the one worry however, whats coming up with visa in few months.
                                      You also one of the spammers who are afraid of people fighting spam?
                                      Fight spam its a waste of time budy.
                                      Everytime you "kill" one, 30 born the day after.

                                      You think when you cry to a sponsor you do great things.. hehe
                                      They just kill the ID of the guy, and give him another one.

                                      The time you lose fight this, you lose signups and worktime.

                                      The funny part, lots of anti become spammers themself after some times. haha

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                                      • chowda
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 9527

                                        #20
                                        what the fuck makes u think that mail traffic is shit?

                                        chargebacks are the paysite's problems. if their tour doesnt advertise whats in it, then they should get the chargeback. but ppl who click are the ones who wanted to look at XYZ paysite.

                                        if u ever throw down an sponsor program, please tell me ull turn down an affiliate doing 50 signups a day.

                                        and u know what, i dont care how fucken ethical u are, u have a sellout price. dont tell me u wont sell out for 100k/month if u can on spamming so stfu.
                                        Someone finds you...
                                        2007

                                        PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                                        • bizmak
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 10014

                                          #21
                                          I hate spammers, I'm with Dirty Dane on this one

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                                          • emthree
                                            Dialer Kingpin
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 10816

                                            #22
                                            Fast food joints must pickup alot of industry members.
                                            I allways hear someone refering another to bk or md.

                                            Sell Patches & Pills

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                                            • Pornwolf
                                              Drunk and Unruly
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 22712

                                              #23
                                              Hmm, spammers are out there spamming large scale on message boards? Oh my! I didn't know this. It must be stopped. If anyone has any info on the people doing this and how they do it so we can stop them ICQ me 152~970~595 .

                                              We can't stand by and let this happen. Tell me about it so we can do what's necessary to control it. ICQ 152~970~595
                                              I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                              Webair, bitches.

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                                              • Dirty Dane
                                                Sick Fuck
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 9491

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by chowda
                                                what the fuck makes u think that mail traffic is shit?

                                                chargebacks are the paysite's problems. if their tour doesnt advertise whats in it, then they should get the chargeback. but ppl who click are the ones who wanted to look at XYZ paysite.

                                                if u ever throw down an sponsor program, please tell me ull turn down an affiliate doing 50 signups a day.

                                                and u know what, i dont care how fucken ethical u are, u have a sellout price. dont tell me u wont sell out for 100k/month if u can on spamming so stfu.
                                                what are u talking about? did I anywhere mention mail traffic? no.................... but I can comment what you say: Basically, if selling drugs to kids make me rich, its ok just because it makes me lots of money? thats the problem: people destroy this biz, result is governments and creditcard companies make hard rules.
                                                Last edited by Dirty Dane; 01-08-2005, 01:45 PM.

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                                                • SykkBoy2
                                                  Jesus loves bacon
                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 19969

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by emthree
                                                  Fast food joints must pickup alot of industry members.
                                                  I allways hear someone refering another to bk or md.
                                                  nah, even McDonalds and BurgerKing have some standards....
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                                                  • SykkBoy2
                                                    Jesus loves bacon
                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                    • 19969

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                    what are u talking about? did I anywhere mention mail traffic? no.................... but I can comment what you say: Basically, if selling drugs to kids make me rich, its ok just because it makes me lots of money? thats the problem: people destroy this biz, result is governments and creditcard companies make hard rules.
                                                    there's a difference...selling drugs to kids is illegal...
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                                                    • SykkBoy2
                                                      Jesus loves bacon
                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 19969

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                      Yeah, I make no money... so I should probably just start spamming myself. Oh wait!!! just checked my stats and made 62 sales today...hmmm...
                                                      are those 4free sales or REAL membership sales?
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                                                      • Dirty Dane
                                                        Sick Fuck
                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 9491

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                        there's a difference...selling drugs to kids is illegal...
                                                        Is it? What if the police did not care, even if it is illegal? Got the point?

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                                                        • chowda
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 9527

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                          what are u talking about? did I anywhere mention mail traffic? no.................... but I can comment what you say: Basically, if selling drugs to kids make me rich, its ok just because it makes me lots of money?
                                                          well im just saying, if u dont, someone else will. and if they dont, someone other than them will.

                                                          u can stop it coz $$$ will overcome ethics anyday. i guess u can sleep knowing u are doing good in this world, but i guess i can sleep knowing that i can live the lifestyle i want.
                                                          Someone finds you...
                                                          2007

                                                          PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                                                          • SykkBoy2
                                                            Jesus loves bacon
                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 19969

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                            Is it? What if the police did not care, even if it is illegal? Got the point?
                                                            selling drugs is illegal
                                                            spamming message boards, etc. may suck and be unethical, but it's not illegal...
                                                            what does that have to do with police that look the other way? doesn't make it any less AGAINST THE LAW
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                                                            • mrgica
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                              • 2169

                                                              #31
                                                              Sometimes I find another world
                                                              inside my mind
                                                              when I realise
                                                              the crazy things we do
                                                              It makes me feel ashamed to be alive
                                                              It makes me wanna run away and hide

                                                              It's all about the money
                                                              It's all about the dum dum.......
                                                              And you don't think It's funny
                                                              to see us fade away
                                                              It's all about the money
                                                              It's all about the dum dum...
                                                              and I think we got it all wrong anyway

                                                              Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

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                                                              • Dirty Dane
                                                                Sick Fuck
                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 9491

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by chowda
                                                                well im just saying, if u dont, someone else will. and if they dont, someone other than them will.

                                                                u can stop it coz $$$ will overcome ethics anyday. i guess u can sleep knowing u are doing good in this world, but i guess i can sleep knowing that i can live the lifestyle i want.
                                                                well, good for you. I really dont care if I "only" drive a BMW while my neighboor drive Rolls. But hey, that just my mentality.

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                                                                • Crypt
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                  • 2225

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                  Hmm, spammers are out there spamming large scale on message boards? Oh my! I didn't know this. It must be stopped. If anyone has any info on the people doing this and how they do it so we can stop them ICQ me 152~970~595 .

                                                                  We can't stand by and let this happen. Tell me about it so we can do what's necessary to control it. ICQ 152~970~595

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                                                                  • mrgica
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 2169

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                    Oh wait!!! just checked my stats and made 62 sales today...hmmm...

                                                                    yea sure, you really sound like a guy who makes 60+ sales a day
                                                                    Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

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                                                                    • Dildozer
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 7519

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                      well, good for you. I really dont care if I "only" drive a BMW while my neighboor drive Rolls. But hey, that just my mentality.
                                                                      Ethics my ass, my bet is you're getting owned by a competitor who's pulling this stuff and you cry to mommy because you can't make it go away.
                                                                      Spam link here

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                                                                      • Crypt
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                                        • 2225

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Dildozer
                                                                        Ethics my ass, my bet is you're getting owned by a competitor who's pulling this stuff and you cry to mommy because you can't make it go away.
                                                                        Yeah, probably the case.. lol

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                                                                        • pxxx
                                                                          First African GFY Member
                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                          • 12114

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Thread is useless if you ask me.

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                                                                          • Wizzo
                                                                            2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                            • Nov 2000
                                                                            • 15224

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Who are these spammers and how many sales a day can they do?
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                                                                            • Dirty Dane
                                                                              Sick Fuck
                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                              • 9491

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Dildozer
                                                                              Ethics my ass, my bet is you're getting owned by a competitor who's pulling this stuff and you cry to mommy because you can't make it go away.
                                                                              Its not a competitor, since I dont promote most of those shitty things. One of the sponsors I have stopped promoting because of this.
                                                                              Can't make it go away? Indeed, thats why I cry too...among with others who are tired of this bs.

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                                                                              • Mike Okitch
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                • 4126

                                                                                #40
                                                                                It's a business.

                                                                                It's about making money.

                                                                                It's not selling crack to kids, it's offering something a surfer may be interested in. If they don't like it, the delete button is there for a reason.

                                                                                Most sponsors are interested in a good bulk mail guy.
                                                                                SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                                • CTL
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                  • 48

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  What's all this crying talk when someone complains about spammers?If you say "oh boohoo,go back to mommy" that must mean that you are a spammer yourself or that you condone spamming.I'm sure most of us use spam filters in our mailboxes so why should this be any different?I agree with Dirty Dane not only because I'm administrator on his forum as well,but it's a waste of the surfers time and our time for having to moderate those posts.Yes we DO moderate and we have a damn good mod team.As I said it's a waste of everyones time including the spammers when we knock down their posts anyway so what's in it for them?Nada.

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                                                                                  • jimmyf
                                                                                    OU812
                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 12651

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                    You also one of the spammers who are afraid of people fighting spam?
                                                                                    A lot more of those than you think on this board A LOT more..
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                                                                                    • jimmyf
                                                                                      OU812
                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 12651

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                      and creditcard companies make hard rules.
                                                                                      bingo

                                                                                      if and when Visa cracks down on pay sites for spamming, well
                                                                                      I really don't think if they will more like when. bye bye..
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                                                                                      • flashfire
                                                                                        ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 13098

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        if spammers are making them money they probably dont give a shit in most cases

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                                                                                        • Dirty Dane
                                                                                          Sick Fuck
                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 9491

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Mike Okitch

                                                                                          It's not selling crack to kids, it's offering something a surfer may be interested in. If they don't like it, the delete button is there for a reason.
                                                                                          Well that's bad argument, since spam means unwanted emails and in general unwanted posting at boards. As I speak of postings, if a board dont want the links, then it IS unwanted and it IS spam. You cant offer something people dont want you to offer? Some people just dont get it, and some just dont care, in lack of respect for other people.
                                                                                          Breaking someones rules or breaking the laws, is exactly the same thing. Only difference is that you wont go to jail for the first thing. You can say "hey, there's money in spamming other peoples boards" and do it, without facing consequenses, because your sponsor let you do it.
                                                                                          I just dont get it, that some people, in public, says its okay to do it, because it is "legal"? Same people scream for "freedom on internet", at the same time they destroy it. Thats hypocratic.

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                                                                                          • Dirty Dane
                                                                                            Sick Fuck
                                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                                            • 9491

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by flashfire
                                                                                            if spammers are making them money they probably dont give a shit in most cases
                                                                                            Thats my hole point
                                                                                            So, what can be done before it makes more damage (Visa, governments etc.) Hopefully most people want this biz to be selfregulating?

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                                                                                            • Crypt
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                              • 2225

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                              Thats my hole point
                                                                                              So, what can be done before it makes more damage (Visa, governments etc.) Hopefully most people want this biz to be selfregulating?
                                                                                              Yeah im sure Visa will kill a merchant account for referer spam .. haha

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                                                                                              • PatrickKing
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                                • 2096

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by mrgica

                                                                                                yea sure, you really sound like a guy who makes 60+ sales a day
                                                                                                I am a program owner, Dirty Dane is an affilliate of mine, I can tell you for sure he is NOT lying about his numbers. He is a great promoter.
                                                                                                [email protected]

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