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I guess you never can tell whats behind the name now can you..Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
I'm laughing at a blog/se spammer and script kiddy threatening 12clicks.
I never said 12clicks was responsible, the threat was an OPEN-ENDED one..
Meaning , SCREW ME AND ILL SCREW YOU..
The difference is i'm much scarier off-net
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Thats why man invented gunsOriginally posted by SmokeyTheBear
I guess you never can tell whats behind the name now can you..
I never said 12clicks was responsible, the threat was an OPEN-ENDED one..
Meaning , SCREW ME AND ILL SCREW YOU..
The difference is i'm much scarier off-net
...regardless, I'm sure we all want to know if you find anything.
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Oh, the irony...
Thought I would post an update. Here's an excerpt of the "stock" response provided by Casalemedia, a major advertiser on 12Clicks Standard Internet, when questioned about adware:
"Let me assure you that Casale Media does not engage in putting AD-Ware on anyone's machines however, we do buy advertising space for clients from companies which use this ad delivery format".
And here's the real irony, in their explanation of where the adware type pop-ups could be originating:
"If you are getting multiple advertisements, you probably have several pieces of adware on your computer. This could occur by downloading applications such as Kazaa, Morpheus, Hotbar, Smiley Central, iMesh, and many others".
Now, why is this significant you ask? Another major product delivered by Standard Internet is Free Screensavers, offered by Funwebproducts. Take a close look at their Privacy Policy, and not only will you find the Smiley Central product cited by Casalemedia as a MAJOR source of adware, you will find an extensive list of other goodies..all which have been connected to adware by McAfee, Norton, and dozens of other reputable Security companies.
Here's a small list of products included with the Freescreensaver download. I left out a whole bunch, in order to make this post readable.
"UPON INSTALLATION THE FOLLOWING PRODUCTS WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR BROWSER:
SEARCH BOX will: ...
SMILEYCENTRAL ...
CURSOR MANIA ...
FUN BUDDY ICONS ...
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disgustingOriginally posted by 49thParallel
Oh, the irony...
Thought I would post an update. Here's an excerpt of the "stock" response provided by Casalemedia, a major advertiser on 12Clicks Standard Internet, when questioned about adware:
"Let me assure you that Casale Media does not engage in putting AD-Ware on anyone's machines however, we do buy advertising space for clients from companies which use this ad delivery format".
And here's the real irony, in their explanation of where the adware type pop-ups could be originating:
"If you are getting multiple advertisements, you probably have several pieces of adware on your computer. This could occur by downloading applications such as Kazaa, Morpheus, Hotbar, Smiley Central, iMesh, and many others".
Now, why is this significant you ask? Another major product delivered by Standard Internet is Free Screensavers, offered by Funwebproducts. Take a close look at their Privacy Policy, and not only will you find the Smiley Central product cited by Casalemedia as a MAJOR source of adware, you will find an extensive list of other goodies..all which have been connected to adware by McAfee, Norton, and dozens of other reputable Security companies.
Here's a small list of products included with the Freescreensaver download. I left out a whole bunch, in order to make this post readable.
"UPON INSTALLATION THE FOLLOWING PRODUCTS WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR BROWSER:
SEARCH BOX will: ...
SMILEYCENTRAL ...
CURSOR MANIA ...
FUN BUDDY ICONS ...
Need I say more?
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At least everyone knows what a scumbag 12dicks is now.Comment
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ahahahaha, so now you're changing your tune to calling it "adware" which happends to be 100% legal.Originally posted by 49thParallel
Oh, the irony...
Thought I would post an update. Here's an excerpt of the "stock" response provided by Casalemedia, a major advertiser on 12Clicks Standard Internet, when questioned about adware:
"Let me assure you that Casale Media does not engage in putting AD-Ware on anyone's machines however, we do buy advertising space for clients from companies which use this ad delivery format".
And here's the real irony, in their explanation of where the adware type pop-ups could be originating:
"If you are getting multiple advertisements, you probably have several pieces of adware on your computer. This could occur by downloading applications such as Kazaa, Morpheus, Hotbar, Smiley Central, iMesh, and many others".
Now, why is this significant you ask? Another major product delivered by Standard Internet is Free Screensavers, offered by Funwebproducts. Take a close look at their Privacy Policy, and not only will you find the Smiley Central product cited by Casalemedia as a MAJOR source of adware, you will find an extensive list of other goodies..all which have been connected to adware by McAfee, Norton, and dozens of other reputable Security companies.
Here's a small list of products included with the Freescreensaver download. I left out a whole bunch, in order to make this post readable.
"UPON INSTALLATION THE FOLLOWING PRODUCTS WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR BROWSER:
SEARCH BOX will: ...
SMILEYCENTRAL ...
CURSOR MANIA ...
FUN BUDDY ICONS ...
Need I say more?
lets see how many trolls are duped besides little man rich.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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sig placement.
soory I'm late. I will get the front page next timeTrump haters gonna hate. that's all they can doComment
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lol, i dont have a clue who 12clicks is, but he seems like an arrogant asshole.
EvPerfect for Asian, Petite,Teen, Exotic, Bikini, Solo girl, Panty, Softcore and Cameltoe Traffic
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Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
I am investigating this right now..
If for one second i feel you or anyone else is stealing my traffic, you will have alot more to be worried about than the loss of cash..
Adware is a legit business strategy , stealing from me is a lifetime of problems.
Rotating Popups are one thing, Serving competition ads by monitoring users browsing is illegal. If these effect any sites i promote or offer, you have big big problems..
i didn't think i'd ever say this, but I'm 100% behond smokey on this one.This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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12 clicks is my Hero !!!RAM
Fucking Machines are like CASH MACHINES
See RAM on these quality sites!!
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Im not finished investigating this , but from what i can tell 12clicks is a broker who deals in this type of traffic. Perhaps he needs to investigate his own affiliates/partners more carefully.When webmasters are getting ripped off, theres a lot bigger things to worry about than the law.Originally posted by SleazyDream
i didn't think i'd ever say this, but I'm 100% behond smokey on this one.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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well son, looks like you can't tell very much.Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Im not finished investigating this , but from what i can tell 12clicks is a broker who deals in this type of traffic. Perhaps he needs to investigate his own affiliates/partners more carefully.When webmasters are getting ripped off, theres a lot bigger things to worry about than the law.
Our ads come from reputable companies not script kiddies using a porn affiliate code to scam signups. (you gotta get out of adult. I don't know of ANY mainstream advertisers who would waste their traffic trying to get signups to a porn site)
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I am an arrogant asshole.Originally posted by evanmorgan
lol, i dont have a clue who 12clicks is, but he seems like an arrogant asshole.
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so far, so good.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Originally posted by 12clicks
I am an arrogant asshole.
so far, so good.
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I know where your ads come from , and i could care less about reputable companies.Originally posted by 12clicks
well son, looks like you can't tell very much.
Our ads come from reputable companies not script kiddies using a porn affiliate code to scam signups. (you gotta get out of adult. I don't know of ANY mainstream advertisers who would waste their traffic trying to get signups to a porn site)
My main business is not adult.
"Son" may be the wrong term to use as i'm many years your elder..
As i said i haven't finished looking into this. I'm not bashing you, just looking out for OUR best interests.
You say you dont know any mainstream advertisers who waste there time with porn ? well what about dating sites ??
My initial post was only to inform others that if you or anyone else rips off me or any of my associates , your anal cavities will become open season for my daytons to do some interior decorating. PERIOD.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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No, your initial post was to explain how you were "investigating" me.Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
I know where your ads come from , and i could care less about reputable companies.
My main business is not adult.
"Son" may be the wrong term to use as i'm many years your elder..
As i said i haven't finished looking into this. I'm not bashing you, just looking out for OUR best interests.
You say you dont know any mainstream advertisers who waste there time with porn ? well what about dating sites ??
My initial post was only to inform others that if you or anyone else rips off me or any of my associates , your anal cavities will become open season for my daytons to do some interior decorating. PERIOD.
what this asshat accused me of is illegal. I've made far too much money in this biz to risk it trying to make an adult signup here and their. (or a dating signup here or there)
The mental leaps some people make are very telling about their position in this biz.
someone could come to me with a deal for 100 signups a day using spyware and I'd laugh in their face.
spyware is illegal and 100signups a day is chump change. but you keep investigating.
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I'd really like to see that.Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
My initial post was only to inform others that if you or anyone else rips off me or any of my associates , your anal cavities will become open season for my daytons to do some interior decorating. PERIOD.I'm just a newbie.Comment
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Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Im not finished investigating this , but from what i can tell 12clicks is a broker who deals in this type of traffic. Perhaps he needs to investigate his own affiliates/partners more carefully.When webmasters are getting ripped off, theres a lot bigger things to worry about than the law.
i agree. scam artists often try word games to justify theft, but in the end theft is theft and theives deserve what's comming to them.This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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By now everyone should be aware of that cheeter 12shits and his programs... He has been ripping of webmasters for a long time..
Originally posted by 49thParallel
12clicks runs a company called Standard Internet. And you've all seen me talk about them before. Well, here we go again.
Last night, a friend called me up and complained that everytime he uses the internet, his surfing is constantly interrupted by pop-up after pop-up. So, I offered to come over and help him remove the pesky adware from his computer.
Well, upon inspection, I found out that he had recently downloaded a "FREE" screensaver offered to him on a adpage. This screensaver (offered up by Standard Internet's popuptraffic service) comes complete with "ad-supported" software.
This "ad-supported" software then serves up ad after ad ....depending on what you enter in the browser address bar, and by what you search for...and simply by launching the browser.
Now, here's where it effects all of you. While I was there, and before I removed the offending piece of scumware from his system, I went to one of my own Adult Friend Finder ad pages. Well, lo and behold, what also launches?...a pop-up for Alt.com & passion.com...with someone else's affiliate codes in them. So, they go to my ad page...they are served up someone else's ads..and they get the commission.
Now, I can GUARANTEE that Ron will come to this post, and try to derail my claims by stating all sorts of unrelated comments..such as...go back to flipping burgers... call the FTC...etc.
But, the simple fact is, 12Clicks and his company are costing YOU money. So, I'm not going to respond to any of his comments. Instead, if you decide to post in this thread...I ask that you always add my text above as a quote, so that everyone that comes to this thread can see the original intent...and see that 12Clicks is STEALING your money.
And, no Ron, it doesn't matter that you are simply an "ad-broker". The fact is, 99% of the ads served up by your popuptraffic program are ad-supported scumware.
And, anyone that wants to see for themselves, feel free to put this little bit of code on a html page.
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript" src="http://www.popuptraffic.com/assign.php?l=traffic"></script>
This comes straight from Standard Internet's popuptraffic affiliate page. This will launch the ads served by Standard Internet. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that no matter what 12Clicks/Ron says...his program is the number 1 provider of scumware on the net.
P.S. Don't download his spywareremover programs offered in the adpages. At least one of them is a known trojan...which goes on to install it's own little ad-supported software.
Before you post..please think! Do you really want to stand up for this piece of scum, while his programs are effectively STEALING the money right out of your pockets.Comment
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and canadian half whits whining about a worthless trademark deserve what's coming to them too.Originally posted by SleazyDream
i agree. scam artists often try word games to justify theft, but in the end theft is theft and theives deserve what's comming to them.
ridicule.
be sure to come back with your hat in your hand when smokey doesn't find anything.
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Arent you selling dating sites on your first page..Originally posted by 12clicks
I've made far too much money in this biz to risk it trying to make an adult signup here and their. (or a dating signup here or there)
http://www.clickthrunet.net/
And the turbofind service ...
http://search.turbofind.com/cgi-bin/...ult&Qualifier=
Has pages straight to nastydollars milfhunter site..
So if one of your "sellers" hijacks the browser to popup a site when someone visits milfhunter.com and pops your turbofind service listing their nastydollars refid , how is that legit..hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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Originally posted by 12clicks
and canadian half whits whining about a worthless trademark deserve what's coming to them too.
ridicule.
be sure to come back with your hat in your hand when smokey doesn't find anything.
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it wouldn't be legit.Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Arent you selling dating sites on your first page..
http://www.clickthrunet.net/
And the turbofind service ...
http://search.turbofind.com/cgi-bin/...ult&Qualifier=
Has pages straight to nastydollars milfhunter site..
So if one of your "sellers" hijacks the browser to popup a site when someone visits milfhunter.com and pops your turbofind service listing their nastydollars refid , how is that legit..
thats why we don't do it.
anything else?
you're spending a lot of time on "ifs"I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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you keep investigating, I'll see you in the morning. its late here.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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I'm working go to sleep.Originally posted by 12clicks
it wouldn't be legit.
thats why we don't do it.
anything else?
you're spending a lot of time on "ifs"
I think you have the wrong impression, im just looking into it as i would anyone whom may be stealing my traffic.
Im not accusing you of anything other than running a fine operation at the moment..hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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I already did find all we need to know. Read the post..read the evidence...Originally posted by 12clicks
and canadian half whits whining about a worthless trademark deserve what's coming to them too.
ridicule.
be sure to come back with your hat in your hand when smokey doesn't find anything.
Like I've said before, me coming in here and making blanket statements without fact would be pointless. That is why I have provided the links for anyone to test for themselves and then gone the next step with my correspondance to casalemedia and further investigation....
And, like I also said before...
Call it what you want....
You are right..the legality changes immensely whether it is adware or spyware....in fact, all throughout this post I have stayed with your term of "ad-supported" software.
But none of this changes in the least the facts that I have stated above....
Sleazydream said it best:
"i agree. scam artists often try word games to justify theft, but in the end theft is theft and theives deserve what's comming to them"Comment
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What amazes me is how people feel it their right to criticize how another man makes a living. I have more respect for someone holding a shotgun to a clerk's head than I do for someone who sits on their ass collecting welfare. In either situation I have no room to judge, as it is none of my business.
We are on a porn BBS, most of us here sell porn, and have done other things in our lives to turn a dollar. Some would call us the complete shit bags of the earth.
It is all perspective, my friends, and other people's business.Comment
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Originally posted by davidd
What amazes me is how people feel it their right to criticize how another man makes a living. I have more respect for someone holding a shotgun to a clerk's head than I do for someone who sits on their ass collecting welfare. In either situation I have no room to judge, as it is none of my business.
interesting analogy
and if that clerk were your wife, daughter, son, father...?......
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Adware/spyware ... whatever. There is a legitimate market, but do you honestly think most surfers AGREE to view constant ads on their computer in exchange for the free software? You must be delusional,
no, sorry kiddie. you won't find any spyware. A good liar (which you are by the replies from the trolls here) mixes truth with lies to confuse ther stupid (as exampled by said trolls)
adware is not illegal, won't be illegal, and is used by hundreds of ad companies. In exchange for free software, the user agrees to view ads in lieu of payment. We show an ad, a surfer either agrees to download the software or he doesn't.
49thparallel would have you believe that spyware and adware are the same even after the ftc told him they aren't and to stop calling them about it.
true.
Almost every webmaster i've met promoting adware/spyware is always looking for a new way to auto install or a way to fuck over the surfer.
Invading people's PC's with adware or spyware is immoral, and it gives a bad name to the entire industry.Comment
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Are you on crack? Wait until it's your business, and you have a shotgun pointed at your head. Maybe no one will have room to judge then either. Maybe we should just sit back while CP fucks take over the industry? Or start promoting trojan horses?.... get a clue.Originally posted by davidd
What amazes me is how people feel it their right to criticize how another man makes a living. I have more respect for someone holding a shotgun to a clerk's head than I do for someone who sits on their ass collecting welfare. In either situation I have no room to judge, as it is none of my business.Last edited by stev0; 12-03-2004, 09:12 AM.Comment
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I think this has been the general consensus of most everyone on every board for about the past 4 years..Originally posted by BrainDead
12 clicks is an asshole, i hope he dies"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
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ahahahahahaOriginally posted by directfiesta
What a dildo.Comment
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next time you see ron at a show, be sure to go up to him and tell him thatOriginally posted by Rich
ahahahahaha
What a dildo.Comment
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okOriginally posted by esnem
next time you see ron at a show, be sure to go up to him and tell him thatComment
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You're assuming Rich would ever go to a showOriginally posted by esnem
next time you see ron at a show, be sure to go up to him and tell him that
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No changes evident in the Standard Internet / 12Clicks "ad supported" software issue, so looks like it is time to resurrect this thread.
And I can guarantee an "all fluff, no substance" reply from Ron will be forthcoming. Like I've said before Ron...turn off your "Oh my god, someone posted my name in a thread" detector and get out of the house.Comment
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I missed you in Vegas, surfer.Originally posted by 49thParallel
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Thanks for dinner, you and Mojo are always excellent company.Originally posted by 12clicksI missed you in Vegas, surfer.
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Going on the old "There's no such thing as bad publicity" adage, are we? Ron, this thread offers not just claims, but the ways and means for anyone to examine and prove the claims made against your company.
You continue to miss one important point. As a person, your actions mean nothing. As a company, we're talking a whole different ball game. I have but one agenda...to help make it harder for companies like yours to continue to erode the online advertising industry.
Ron, keep the personal attacks coming. You will fool a few...but the more astute and intelligent of the crowd will recognize the attacks for what they are..and then move on to examine the real issues that are addressed in this thread.
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You should post this on JBM. Doesn't suprise me.Comment
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yikes dude that is rough
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you should take your evidence to the authorities.Originally posted by 49thParallel
oh, thats right, they already told you to get lost.
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Trolls aren't tolerated on JBM.Originally posted by xxxjay
don't you have hookers to get the girl friend treatment from?
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Thanks for the tip. Just signed up to popuptraffic.com. Looks like a nice program.
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49th parallel, when will you realize that nobody gives a rats ass about your whining except YOU...
I'm STILL waiting on the FBI to come busting down my door because I took pictures of a girl that said she had hiv....Where are they?
Idiot.Comment
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A glowing recommendation from a fella with a Penis enhancement banner in his signature. Yep, doesn't make me question your business ethics at all. (insert sarcasm here). Do your customers a favor. Send them a sugar pill. At least they will get to taste something sweet while you screw them out of their money.Originally posted by BradMThanks for the tip. Just signed up to popuptraffic.com. Looks like a nice program.
And thanks once again Ron for keeping this thread active.Comment
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It's pretty funny and obvious you have a problem reading and comprehending things. We don't sell penis PILLS.Originally posted by 49thParallelComment
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