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  • Goonx
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 1048
    #1

    Need billing, don't have a US company, what do I do?

    I need to setup billing for a paysite, I'm located in Canada and don't have anything in the US, how can I set something up and with who should I go with?

    I've been doing everything but paysites, so I'm not sure how to go about setting up billing, any help is appriciated.

    Thank you.
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    • Kevin2
      Confirmed User
      • May 2003
      • 1429
      #2
      You can use Verotel.

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        • Goonx
          Confirmed User
          • May 2002
          • 1048
          #3
          Originally posted by Kevin2
          You can use Verotel.
          are they ok?
          can you even compare them to ccbill or ibill?

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            • JakeR
              Confirmed User
              • May 2001
              • 1760
              #4
              you set up a US corporation and take advantage of cheaper processing.
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                • Kevin2
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2003
                  • 1429
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Goonx
                  are they ok?
                  can you even compare them to ccbill or ibill?
                  I use CCbill, Verotel and I used to use Ibill.

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                    • Goonx
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2002
                      • 1048
                      #6
                      Originally posted by JakeR
                      you set up a US corporation and take advantage of cheaper processing.
                      I will need the money sent to my Canadian address not the US corporation address, is that possible?

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                        • Kevin2
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 1429
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Goonx
                          I will need the money sent to my Canadian address not the US corporation address, is that possible?
                          Yes my money is sent to me in Australia

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                            • Goonx
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2002
                              • 1048
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Kevin2
                              Yes my money is sent to me in Australia
                              cool, so what exactly do you need in the US? a corporation and a physical address? do they send you anything or call the physical address?

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                                • Kevin2
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 1429
                                  #9
                                  You need to have a social security number, corporation and physical address. There are different packages they offer to setup a corp for you. The best is to check out a few of them and compare what they offer.

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                                    • Ben.Z
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 1164
                                      #10
                                      Goonx, we can accommodate your ACH payment ( online check ) needs. Hit me up when you get a chance. Or just click through my sig for more details.
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                                      Contact me: Ben Z. (ben|AT|CardReady.com) ICQ_138827832
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                                        • Goonx
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 1048
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by WTS - Ben
                                          Goonx, we can accommodate your ACH payment ( online check ) needs. Hit me up when you get a chance. Or just click through my sig for more details.
                                          Thank you, but I need to figure out credit cards first

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                                            • junction
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 2411
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Goonx
                                              I will need the money sent to my Canadian address not the US corporation address, is that possible?
                                              Set up a Nevada Corporation. Use a virtual office with mail forwarding.

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                                                • icedemon
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 1022
                                                  #13
                                                  You could try
                                                  http://www.nikrobilling.com
                                                  or
                                                  http://www.billingdirect.net
                                                  One of them should be able to help you out if your outside the US.
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                                                    • VeriSexy
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                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 25463
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by icedemon
                                                      You could try
                                                      http://www.nikrobilling.com
                                                      or
                                                      http://www.billingdirect.net
                                                      One of them should be able to help you out if your outside the US.
                                                      Are you using either of them?
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                                                        • icedemon
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                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 1022
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                                          Are you using either of them?
                                                          I use nikro billing. I don't use billingdirect cause they are too expensive. Nikro billing has been a great company since I started using them. They've been great on customer service and getting me setup fast when I first signed up with them.
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                                                            • VeriSexy
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                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 25463
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by icedemon
                                                              I use nikro billing. I don't use billingdirect cause they are too expensive. Nikro billing has been a great company since I started using them. They've been great on customer service and getting me setup fast when I first signed up with them.
                                                              Have you ever used Ccbill, epoch etc....? How do they compare?
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                                                                • lacorporacione
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                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                  • 252
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Contact us and we can set you up a dedicated merchant acc. with same day approval.
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                                                                    • Ty W
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                      • 47
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Hey Goonx,

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                                                                        • icedemon
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 1022
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                                                          Have you ever used Ccbill, epoch etc....? How do they compare?
                                                                          I have CCBill as my backup. I switched from iBill to Nikro Billing a couple of months ago. iBill compared to Nikro Billing is night and day. Never looked back. My rebills are gone from iBill I guess, but haven't had any problems with Nikro Billing. All emails are responded to in a timely manner and I can always get someone on the phone to talk to about something if I need to. Nikro Billing has even added some features that I requested. They want to keep their customers, so they are very one-on-one.

                                                                          At least that has been my experience. I haven't sent any customers through CCBill yet. So I can't compare them both.
                                                                          Last edited by icedemon; 10-10-2004, 08:21 PM.
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                                                                            • VeriSexy
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                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                              • 25463
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by icedemon
                                                                              I have CCBill as my backup. I switched from iBill to Nikro Billing a couple of months ago. iBill compared to Nikro Billing is night and day. Never looked back. My rebills are gone from iBill I guess, but haven't had any problems with Nikro Billing. All emails are responded to in a timely manner and I can always get someone on the phone to talk to about something if I need to. Nikro Billing has even added some features that I requested. They want to keep their customers, so they are very one-on-one.

                                                                              At least that has been my experience. I haven't sent any customers through CCBill yet. So I can't compare them both.
                                                                              Thanks. you know anyone else using Nikro? I have never heard of these guys before.
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                                                                                • RegUser
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                  • 1472
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  any others here who have used Nikro Billing?

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                                                                                    • dcortez
                                                                                      DINO CORTEZ™
                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 2145
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by icedemon
                                                                                      You could try
                                                                                      http://www.nikrobilling.com
                                                                                      I've been using NikroBilling for a couple months so far and they are a good bunch - responsive support, payments on time.

                                                                                      -Dino

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                                                                                        • Webby
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 14956
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Goonx:

                                                                                          If you need a processor in addition to Verotel (and you do!!! *s*), get a Euro corp.

                                                                                          You can then deal with CCBillEU and any processor in the EU banking region. A basic corp (not Euro "offshore") costs less than any North American VISA fees and no VISA fees apply in Europe.

                                                                                          Check out eg.. a UK non resident company
                                                                                          http://www.jordans.co.uk

                                                                                          Nominee dirs and a "presence" are other options. Tax exemption from all UK taxes is available and no chance of any withholding taxes applies as with US corps.
                                                                                          XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                            • xclusive
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                              • 35218
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              CCbill is the way to go

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                                                                                                • Hinc
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                                  • 2577
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Nikrobilling charges 20% + 5% hold on transactions... that seens like ALOT
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                                                                                                    • Hinc
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                                      • 2577
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      ...oh and escommerce is - 13.75% + 49usd monthly managament fee.
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                                                                                                        • RegUser
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                                                                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                                                                          • 1472
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Hinc
                                                                                                          Nikrobilling charges 20% + 5% hold on transactions... that seens like ALOT
                                                                                                          yes 25% is way too much

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                                                                                                            • Mike Okitch
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                              • 4126
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              www.123bill.com
                                                                                                              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                                                                • RegUser
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                  • 1472
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I am not sure how many surfers would be willing to provide the following for 123bill.com
                                                                                                                  "We collect your full name, date of birth, address, phone number and your Social Security number."

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                                                                                                                    • chupachups
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                      • 6576
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Talk to Joshua at myvirtualcard.com

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                                                                                                                        • haimhle
                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                          • 43
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          you can try www.ntpay.com
                                                                                                                          www.chargegate.com

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                                                                                                                            • DEA - banned for life
                                                                                                                              V.I.P.
                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                              • 7886
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              try Ibill...

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                                                                                                                                • Billman
                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 10
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  You can use CardsGate .
                                                                                                                                  .

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                                                                                                                                    • Hinc
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 2577
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Social security number is a lame thing to demand from surfers....

                                                                                                                                      ntpay looks expensive...

                                                                                                                                      i´d still go for verotel and ccbill
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                                                                                                                                        • lottrbacchus
                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 13
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          couldnt be bothered to read through all the stuff. my company is in central europe and we use ccbill

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                                                                                                                                            • DutchTeenCash
                                                                                                                                              I like Dutch Girls
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 21684
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              ccbill EU works fine

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                                                                                                                                                • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  You can set up your own merchant account in several different regions, depending upon where you want to start a shell corporation to establish a presence. My suggestion would be Asia, since the merchant accounts there are capped at a 2% chargeback allowables ratio, instead of the 1% the US region is bound to.

                                                                                                                                                  ICQ me if you need any help, I'll be glad to walk you through things.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Lykos
                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 31027
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Kevin2
                                                                                                                                                      You can use Verotel.
                                                                                                                                                      yeap u can try them!

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                                                                                                                                                        • rewn
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 385
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Billman
                                                                                                                                                          You can use CardsGate .
                                                                                                                                                          no no , cardsgate are the biggest fraud scammers , dodgy russians.

                                                                                                                                                          Verotel is very very good, they are a dutch company, go with them.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Trax
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                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 14486
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Billman
                                                                                                                                                              You can use CardsGate .
                                                                                                                                                              billman you dirty fuck....
                                                                                                                                                              don't come here offering anyone your scammy processing solution... Where is the money you have stolen from me?? stupid piece of shit

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                                                                                                                                                                • Cogitator
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 672
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  www.opsbilling.com
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                                                                                                                                                                    • seeric
                                                                                                                                                                      ..........
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 41917
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      www.opsbilling.com

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Tempest
                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 10217
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=472882

                                                                                                                                                                          I would probably go the route of the UK corp or Gibraltar so you take advantage of EU Paycom although the 2% chargeback Kimmykim mentioned would be mighty appealing.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • vicki
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 1478
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Goonx

                                                                                                                                                                              It is NOT necessary to go through the cost and bother of setting up the US based corp when 2 of the 3 local banks are taking no new apps due to heavy fines from visa.

                                                                                                                                                                              You can take an EU solution, Asian or Island solution for almost the same discount rates (approx 6.5-7.6% depending on your specifics)
                                                                                                                                                                              no incorporation costs for some of them
                                                                                                                                                                              no setup or app costs for many

                                                                                                                                                                              There are sooo many options available nowdays IMHO it would be in your best interest to talk one on one with a registered ISO with several different of banking solutions at their fingertips.

                                                                                                                                                                              I'm here is you want to talk
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                                                                                                                                                                                • vicki
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1478
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  lol boy did I make some grammar/spelling errors or what?!


                                                                                                                                                                                  *looking around* ok who switched my keyboard? lol

                                                                                                                                                                                  PS yes, I really speak english ;)
                                                                                                                                                                                  If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • spooky181
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 2951
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      It's Verotel hands down they have been awesome for us for the past 4 years..

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