What to do if a see cheater on SE?

The relationship between SEO?s and SE? is just like the relationship between Blackjack card counters and the casinos. The casinos and law enforcement agree that card counting is not cheating, but if you get caught counting cards in a major casino you will be banned. The same thing applies to black-hat SEO. It is simply an act of using the system that the SEs created yet if you get caught ?using their system? to its maximum advantage you run the risk of getting banned. This is a risk that the card counters and the SEO takes and because the ?big boys? created the game they can decide who wins and who is not allowed to play.

For an average Joe-on-the-street to blow the whistle on someone for moving within the framework created by the ?system? is unconscionable. Why would you report someone for using the system as it was designed? Doing so would be the equivalent of making a personal decision that 45 MPH is as fast as you are comfortable driving then complaining about everyone that drives the speed limit.

If you see that others have achieved a level of success that you envy do not seek to undermine their success by reporting them as ?cheaters?. Do you homework and develop a better method for success. For as we all know, there are two ways to have the tallest building in town. One way is to build a taller building then your neighbors, and the other way is to tear all the other buildings down.

Learn to build.

Rats sleep with the fishes.

black hats make things totally unfair, they force everyone else to use black hat methods if we want to surpass them in the rankings and just keep making the se's make things harder and harder to get good listing because the black hats keep them changing the rules. you can blame the black hats for lack of se traffic for those who stick to the methods of content and backlinks.

i will tell you the difference.. spammers send things.. getting listed on google doesnt require people to "send" anything

"black hats" make google work , if it didnt google would be broke. if the search engines showed perfect results, nobody would ever click on an ad, it wouldnt be profitable , black hat seo is what makes google work.. without blackhat google would be broke , close down and you wouldnt get a hit from google.. thank black hats for creating traffic for you

You should create a website that has absolutely nothing on it but this post.

brilliant.

Just out of curiosity, did you read this before you hit send?

To blame blackhat?s for your failure to rank is ridiculous. Blackhat SEO is the best thing to happen to this or any other industry that endeavors to do business online. Evaluate the activities of blackhats and build a better system so that everyone gets more relevant searches.

You are whining because you ?think? your keywords somehow belong to you and that you ?deserve? to be listed for some unknown internal reason.

The ONLY reason that SEs ban blackhat sites is because people like you drive them crazy crying because you got knocked off the tops spot for you favorite keywords. When is reality search engine results would not be 1/10 th are relevant as they are today were it not for people who use every available aspect of the system AS IT WAS CREATED by the SEs. You can call them blackhats of cheaters or Santa Claus, but the TRUTH is that some people use ALL that is available and others use only a portion? and then want to cry because they are not satisfied.

When you fuck with peoples income you are asking for enough karma to fuck 3 generations of your family. Tell your great great grandkid it's your fault he lives in the ghetto.

Truly talented webmasters have no need for black hat to make their money.
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All the while, hard working webmasters creating sites that surfers actually like are pushed to page 10.

one could easily argue that the black hat guys are fucking with the legit guy's incomes.

Would you rather opperate TheHun, or opperate a black hat SEO opperation that makes the same amount of money?

All the while, hard working webmasters creating sites that surfers actually like are pushed to page 10.

people can always justify what they do. your solution is that we have to employ black hat methods to compete. that doesn't seem right. i never cry to anyone about blackhats, except the odd post here when people are dicussing it. i would never report sites, i don't care enough to do so. it just pisses me off that such an un even playing field has been created. one that is basically impossible to compete with unless you have 1000's upon 1000's of backlinks and a long established site. if you are using methods that will get you banned in google, then you are abusing the system in my opinion. i once got banned for having keywords be the same color as the background of my site. i never got much in hits from google, it was just old shit from when that actually worked on aol, etc search engines but they banned me anyways. i very much doubt anyone complained about it.

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