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  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    #1

    Arab Nations

    I see America has placed 350M USD into the tsunami disaster.
    I see Japan has placed 500M USD into the tsunami disaster.
    I see EU has placed over 200M USD into the tsunami disaster.


    However one thing really missing...
    Muslim and Arab Nations have not lifted a finger.

    What do yu think of this? I think it says alot.
  • Corleone
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    • Apr 2003
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    #2
    whats with africa, south america ?!

    looks like you waited already for a situation like this so you can raise the finger and say.. everybody look at these bad muslims..
    Last edited by Corleone; 01-02-2005, 09:45 AM.

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    • xclusive
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      #3
      http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L28610241.htm

      Saudi pledges $10 mln in aid to Tsunami victims
      28 Dec 2004 21:58:40 GMT
      Source: Reuters
      RIYADH, Dec 28 (Reuters) - Oil-rich Saudi Arabia pledged on Tuesday a $10 million aid package to victims of the tsunami disaster in Asia, which officials say has killed more than 59,000 people and affected millions of others.

      A statement on the official Saudi Press Agency said the country would donate $5 million worth of food, tents and medicine, to be transported and distributed via the Saudi Red Crescent.

      Another $5 million in funds will be given to several international aid groups such as the Red Cross and the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, the statement added.

      Neighbouring Gulf country Kuwait has pledged a little over $2 million in aid. The United Arab Emirates will donate 30 tonnes of food, blankets and clothing to the victims.

      Aid agencies struggled on Tuesday to cope with the scale of the disaster. The United Nations said communities would require billions of dollars to help them recover.

      They are helping

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      • ListYourPorn
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        #4
        Originally posted by AlienQ
        I see America has placed 350M USD into the tsunami disaster.
        I see Japan has placed 500M USD into the tsunami disaster.
        I see EU has placed over 200M USD into the tsunami disaster.


        However one thing really missing...
        Muslim and Arab Nations have not lifted a finger.

        What do yu think of this? I think it says alot.
        They prob have though it does not make good news to broadcast it ;-)

        The iraqi war seems to have stopped I have not heard a word about it since boxing day - is this the same where you are?


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        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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          #5
          Originally posted by Corleone
          whats with africa, south america ?!

          looks like you waited already for a situation like this so you can raise the finger and say.. everybody look at these bad muslims..
          No I just waited...
          I knew what was going to happen I just wanted to point it out.

          If Osama was a man of Peace he would at least release a video tape about the tsunami victims. Or Maybe he was say somthing like "God is great".
          Who knows.

          But I tell ya them Persian Princes aint giving up one god damn dime to help.
          Which is typical.

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          • Shaddam IV
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            #6
            Originally posted by AlienQ
            I see America has placed 350M USD into the tsunami disaster.
            You forgot to mention that they place dozens of millions in Iraq war every day.

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            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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              #7
              Originally posted by Shaddam IV
              You forgot to mention that they place dozens of millions in Iraq war every day.
              Yup...

              Thats pretty generous to.

              One country gets bombs and another gets gifts. Must be a tough choice or hard to realise for Arab/Muslim nations that modern civilization actually gives a fuck.

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              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                #8
                Ever heard Swords to Plow shares?

                It is much easier and cheaper to build than to destroy.

                While over 2M is spent dropping bombs and blowing up resistance freaks in Iraq in 1 day, the same 2M can be used to rebuild an entire block of modern homes that last a life time.

                Some people have no concept of peace and you end up with places like Iraq, Palestine...

                Etc.

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                • Corleone
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                  No I just waited...
                  I knew what was going to happen I just wanted to point it out.

                  If Osama was a man of Peace he would at least release a video tape about the tsunami victims. Or Maybe he was say somthing like "God is great".
                  Who knows.

                  But I tell ya them Persian Princes aint giving up one god damn dime to help.
                  Which is typical.
                  read the news.. they're donating..

                  in saudia arabia living 25 million ppl and they spent $10 million...

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                  • Fake Nick
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                    #10
                    you obviously just hate all arabs for no real reason except how your media might be portraying them


                    even after you see that arab nations DID donate money for aid of south easth asia you keep on spreading your bullshit

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                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                      #11
                      Saudi Arabia is the acception.

                      Saudi Arabia is the traitor nation to the Arab world, at least thats what "they" would like you to believe.

                      Since when does Saudi Arabia consider itself a part of the Arab Nations? Oh I know why...
                      Because if they didnt it would be "Ji Had" time.
                      Oh I almost forgot there are extremists in Saudi Arabia trying to blow things up... Saudi Arabia is a target that all Arab and Muslim nations wuld love to see burn.

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                      • project_naughty
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                        #12
                        It is forbidden for a Muslim to give aid to a non-Muslim UNLESS the Muslim has cause to believe that the non-Muslim will convert to Islam imminently.

                        The Tsunami dead are a mixture of Muslims, Christians, Hindus and Buddhists. Muslims hate Hindus and Buddhists even more than they hate Christians.

                        On the other hand, Saudi Arabia spends billions on financing the kinds of Mosques throughout the world which give sermons exhorting the believers to kill the Jews/ Christians/ white people/ etc.

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                        • KRL
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                          #13
                          LOL Saudi Arabia $10 Milllion ? WTF is that all about?

                          The price of oil is at a bogusly inflated $43 barrel and they're pumping 11 Million barrels a day and that money goes directly to the Kingdom's coiffers. Do the math on that equation.

                          $10 Mil to them is about 40 minutes income.

                          And the multitude of these people in need are fellow muslims.

                          Go figure.
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                          • Fake Nick
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                            Saudi Arabia is the acception.

                            Saudi Arabia is the traitor nation to the Arab world, at least thats what "they" would like you to believe.

                            Since when does Saudi Arabia consider itself a part of the Arab Nations? Oh I know why...
                            Because if they didnt it would be "Ji Had" time.
                            Oh I almost forgot there are extremists in Saudi Arabia trying to blow things up... Saudi Arabia is a target that all Arab and Muslim nations wuld love to see burn.

                            yeah , the Saudi's decided to name the land they "own" Saudi (family name) Arabia ( ARAB ia -) yup them saudi's are NOT an arabic nation


                            I am pretty sure a country like Jordan , is also donating some funds

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                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fake Nick
                              yeah , the Saudi's decided to name the land they "own" Saudi (family name) Arabia ( ARAB ia -) yup them saudi's are NOT an arabic nation


                              I am pretty sure a country like Jordan , is also donating some funds
                              Yur an idiot.
                              You attack Paycounter a few minutes ago with total bullshit and now yur in another thread thinking Jordan gives a fuck about Asia...

                              Go become a suicide bomber you nut case.

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                              • Corleone
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by KRL
                                LOL Saudi Arabia $10 Milllion ? WTF is that all about?

                                The price of oil is at a bogusly inflated $43 barrel and they're pumping 11 Million barrels a day and that money goes directly to the Kingdom's coiffers. Do the math on that equation.

                                $10 Mil to them is about 40 minutes income.

                                And the multitude of these people in need are fellow muslims.

                                Go figure.
                                whats the usa earning per minute with saudi oil btw? :D

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                                • Short Irish Guy
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                                  #17
                                  Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Libya, and Syria have given a total of...

                                  ZERO MONEY

                                  Fuck them all. I guess they're too busy looting their own treasuries to give money to people who really need help...
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                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Short Irish Guy
                                    Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Libya, and Syria have given a total of...

                                    ZERO MONEY

                                    Fuck them all. I guess they're too busy looting their own treasuries to give money to people who really need help...
                                    NO they enjoy sending people into Iraq/Isreal with weapons to get killed by the gods of war
                                    Thinking that they got a chance to bring back the ancient Ottoman/Persian empire. What a bunch of baffoons.

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                                    • directfiesta
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                                      #19
                                      Most idiotic thread of the new year.
                                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                                        Most idiotic thread of the new year.
                                        Awe...
                                        Can't hang with the truth?

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                                        • groark
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                                          #21
                                          Damn they need money for other things.... I bet.. It's not because they hate the Asians lol

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                                          • monro
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                            I see America has placed 350M USD into the tsunami disaster.
                                            I see Japan has placed 500M USD into the tsunami disaster.
                                            I see EU has placed over 200M USD into the tsunami disaster.


                                            However one thing really missing...
                                            Muslim and Arab Nations have not lifted a finger.

                                            What do yu think of this? I think it says alot.
                                            They did contribute. Blasted a bomb in Indonesia shortly after the disaster.

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                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by monro
                                              They did contribute. Blasted a bomb in Indonesia shortly after the disaster.
                                              Oh snap!

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                                              • Expected_Man
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                                                #24
                                                You cannot judge a whole nation for once act bud
                                                Try to see how that people living, what are their situations?? Are they really able to help? or they really need help?? Except Saudia Arabie..., few countries that are following USA...
                                                Simply you cannot come and post saying arabs not helping, you don't know w ashit, Actually read the news Kuwait just donated more than 20 Million$.
                                                Peace out brotha

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                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                  #25
                                                  Ahh yes Kuwait...
                                                  Yet another country in the middle east showing its most generous side.

                                                  Evil Kuwait sells oil to those treacherous Americans!
                                                  Evil Kuwait was protected by those American infidels when Saddam tried to kill those slant drilling bastards!

                                                  So we got Kuwait and Saudi Arabia poppin in uh..
                                                  20M.
                                                  Both those Arab Nations are hated on at every corner in the middle east.
                                                  I am starting to see some consistancy for once in my life!

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                                                  • Fake Nick
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                    Yur an idiot.
                                                    You attack Paycounter a few minutes ago with total bullshit and now yur in

                                                    there are lots of threads about paycounter not paying ,there are also lots of people in that thread that also didnt get paid , no bullshit there


                                                    fucktard

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                                                    • BackToMine
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ListYourPorn
                                                      The iraqi war seems to have stopped I have not heard a word about it since boxing day - is this the same where you are?
                                                      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4140767.stm



                                                      Originally posted by BBC
                                                      At least 19 Iraqis, 18 of them National Guardsmen, have been killed in a car bomb explosion, the US military says.

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                                                      • BackToMine
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                                                        #28
                                                        Why the fuck should the poor countries contribute?

                                                        Look at their GDP, PPP, national debt and their living standards.

                                                        95% of the money aid should be from the G8 countries.

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                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BackToMine
                                                          Why the fuck should the poor countries contribute?

                                                          Look at their GDP, PPP, national debt and their living standards.

                                                          95% of the money aid should be from the G8 countries.
                                                          Ahh so it is expected that countries that are successful pay while the poor ones blow shit up and support terrorists? What I am pointing out can not be denied. The writing is on the wall clear as day depicting all the positions of the worlds nations on this matter.

                                                          In times of crisis its always about Modern Civilisations paying the way while the ones that blow things up and destroy humanities progress hide in the crner and lay low like the scum they are.

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                                                          • dunefield
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                            Ahh so it is expected that countries that are successful pay while the poor ones blow shit up and support terrorists? What I am pointing out can not be denied. The writing is on the wall clear as day depicting all the positions of the worlds nations on this matter.

                                                            In times of crisis its always about Modern Civilisations paying the way while the ones that blow things up and destroy humanities progress hide in the crner and lay low like the scum they are.
                                                            if you have no money... how can you donate?

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                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by dunefield
                                                              if you have no money... how can you donate?
                                                              Don't fool yourself they got money. Only all the money is in the hands a few "rich" people in those countries. Ya think its cheap waging war of "Jihad"?

                                                              To give ya an idea, the US spends alot of money on war to fight off the fucktards that think they have the power to bring the world t one people.
                                                              Ya think it is cheap to fend off the greatest armies in the history of man kind?

                                                              The number of weapons alone that the US has siezed from the terrorist retards exceed's the total amount of donations to Asia for the tsunami disaster.

                                                              AK47's, Rocket Launchers, sniper rifles, pistols explosives all being funneled in black markets and tucked away in hidden accounts. Oh them poor countries of the middle east got the money dont fool yourself.
                                                              Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 01-02-2005, 12:22 PM.

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                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                #32
                                                                Whats interesting is you can bet metal and materials from the Middle east will be melted down and used to make homes and help reconstruction in Asia.

                                                                It will get there with Saudi Oil and Kuwaiti oil as well.

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                                                                • Persius
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                                  you obviously just hate all arabs for no real reason except how your media might be portraying them


                                                                  even after you see that arab nations DID donate money for aid of south easth asia you keep on spreading your bullshit

                                                                  finally something fake nick says that i support

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                                                                  • FluFFYGRidER
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Muslim nations are helping by delaying the inevitable destruction of the West. We still think the U.S. somehow caused this fake wave to try to destroy our muslim brothers and sisters.

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                                                                    • TheMob
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                      http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L28610241.htm

                                                                      Saudi pledges $10 mln in aid to Tsunami victims
                                                                      28 Dec 2004 21:58:40 GMT
                                                                      Source: Reuters
                                                                      RIYADH, Dec 28 (Reuters) - Oil-rich Saudi Arabia pledged on Tuesday a $10 million aid package to victims of the tsunami disaster in Asia, which officials say has killed more than 59,000 people and affected millions of others.

                                                                      A statement on the official Saudi Press Agency said the country would donate $5 million worth of food, tents and medicine, to be transported and distributed via the Saudi Red Crescent.

                                                                      Another $5 million in funds will be given to several international aid groups such as the Red Cross and the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, the statement added.

                                                                      Neighbouring Gulf country Kuwait has pledged a little over $2 million in aid. The United Arab Emirates will donate 30 tonnes of food, blankets and clothing to the victims.

                                                                      Aid agencies struggled on Tuesday to cope with the scale of the disaster. The United Nations said communities would require billions of dollars to help them recover.

                                                                      They are helping
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                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        I dont hate on Arabs or Muslims..

                                                                        There are plenty of American Arabs and American Muslims...
                                                                        They seem to get it. Unlike the Arab/Muslim Nations they have left.
                                                                        I can see why they left those countries and I can't blame em for being smarter by making the choice they have. If ya ask me it was the only logical choice to become Americans.

                                                                        It must be ackward for them though and I feel bad for em often since there are alot of bigoted Americans that make assumptions.

                                                                        I am drawing on the behavior of countries of the middle east not Middle Eastern decented people.

                                                                        SO ya can take your spin and shove it up your ass, re read the thread and see for yourself the facts.

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                                                                        • donnie
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                          Yur an idiot.
                                                                          You attack Paycounter a few minutes ago with total bullshit and now yur in another thread thinking Jordan gives a fuck about Asia...

                                                                          Go become a suicide bomber you nut case.
                                                                          Jordan IS Asia you stupid fuck!

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                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by donnie
                                                                            Jordan IS Asia you stupid fuck!
                                                                            Really?



                                                                            Go to school fool.

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                                                                            • donnie
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                              Really?



                                                                              Go to school fool.
                                                                              WTF do you want to prove with this map?? Jordan IS Asia! Or are you as stupid as oracle porn and his "saudi arabia is not asia" thread???

                                                                              Go kill yourself fool.

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                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                #40


                                                                                Whats your point.
                                                                                Asia is a big place.

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                                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  But Jordan is classified as a middle Eastern country.

                                                                                  As an example...

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                                                                                  • donnie
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ


                                                                                    Whats your point.
                                                                                    Asia is a big place.
                                                                                    You sad "do you think Jordan gives a shit about Asia"

                                                                                    Hwo the fuck would they give a shit about if not Asia? Antarctica??

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                                                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by donnie
                                                                                      You sad "do you think Jordan gives a shit about Asia"

                                                                                      Hwo the fuck would they give a shit about if not Asia? Antarctica??
                                                                                      No more Geography lessons for you, go strap a bomb to yourself and drive into a chain link fence...

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                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                        #44


                                                                                        GO be a hero, the Americans will be there to collect the metal wreckage and ship it to Tsunami victims once refabricated to make new homes and buildings.

                                                                                        You can donate now!

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                                                                                        • donnie
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                          No more Geography lessons for you, go strap a bomb to yourself and drive into a chain link fence...
                                                                                          WOW. You are actually dumber than oracle porn.

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                                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by donnie
                                                                                            WOW. You are actually dumber than oracle porn.
                                                                                            Oracle of Porn is a legend.

                                                                                            You have a problem with Geography.

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                                                                                            • QuaWee
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                              Yup...

                                                                                              Thats pretty generous to.

                                                                                              One country gets bombs and another gets gifts. Must be a tough choice or hard to realise for Arab/Muslim nations that modern civilization actually gives a fuck.
                                                                                              so are you trying to say Arab nations are not "modern civilizations"?
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                                                                                              • jigg
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                so these peeps have billions and billions invested, plus billions from oil and all they pledge is $10,000,000?

                                                                                                one of their fucking palaces is probably worth half that with all the gold plated furniture and shit


                                                                                                that is stingy
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                                                                                                • pornguy
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I am amazed to see how much has come from some of the other counties.
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                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by QuaWee
                                                                                                    so are you trying to say Arab nations are not "modern civilizations"?

                                                                                                    As a matter of fact I am...

                                                                                                    But a couple things to note.

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                                                                                                    Saudi Arabia has the most beautiful building in the world, larger cleaner and beyond lavish.

                                                                                                    What say you about the progress of modern civilisation rounding up getting together and building a bright future for all of humanity while others attempt to deny the inevitable progress?

                                                                                                    Its a life and death decision.

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