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09-16-2002, 01:39 PM

Check it out. Looks like America has decided to allow corporations to commit mass genocide on its citizens.

Heres the link...FrankenFoods

Here's an excerpt...
"Milk from cloned cows and meat from the offspring of cloned cows and pigs could show up on grocery shelves as early as next year under the plans of livestock breeders who are already raising scores of clones on American farmsteads."

Brought to you by some form of NestleMonsantoPhillipMorris Corp. I'm sure....

HINT: You must be pretty fucking stupid if you still don't read your food labels.

HINT: You must be EVEN dumber to try and suggest that the merits of genetically modified food outweigh the tremendous harm about to be unleashed on an unsuspecting public.

However, I suppose alot of you are having a grand old time with that "terror" thingy. Didn't y'all know that this whole terrorism nonsense is just a ruse to prevent you from caring about real issues like the environment, and your own personal health? Nah? You didn't know? Thats okay, turn on Survivor and pacify yourself. The rest of the world will take care of things for you.

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09-16-2002, 01:42 PM

what's the harm of cloned animal milk? i'm not trying to suggest i think it's perfectly fine, but maybe i just don't get the issue here. "mass genocide" seems quite extreme/alarmist.
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09-16-2002, 01:42 PM

oh you canadians and your hysteria problems.. you need to find something better to do with your time until hockey season starts EH?

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09-16-2002, 01:43 PM

nah, we'll just ship it all to Canada...

Your media is just too uninformed to tell you what's in YOUR food...

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09-16-2002, 01:44 PM

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oh you canadians and your hysteria problems.. you need to find something better to do with your time until hockey season starts EH?

huh? i love my cloned food products.

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09-16-2002, 01:45 PM

There are definitely some missing premises here. Is there any evidence a cloned cow is any different from the cow it was cloned from? If there is, then someone didn't do a good job of cloning, right?

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09-16-2002, 01:45 PM

Can we kill this guy yet? He HAS to be related to Massive Cock.

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09-16-2002, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Can we kill this guy yet? He HAS to be related to Massive Cock.

FUnny stuff. I am not related, but I do have a MASSIVE COCK. Must be why you're always so in love with my posts.

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09-16-2002, 01:52 PM

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FUnny stuff. I am not related, but I do have a MASSIVE COCK. Must be why you're always so in love with my posts.

I just feel sorry for my friends up north. You're giving them such a bad image.

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09-16-2002, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I just feel sorry for my friends up north. You're giving them such a bad image.

Yes, I'm sorry that I don't reflect the same kind of people I'm sure you gutter-crawl with.

And again, why is it that I should be killed? Because I dared say something opposing your own beliefs? Typical arrogant reaction of someone as insecure as you. Kill what you can't understand.

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09-16-2002, 02:01 PM

Man, sometimes I love to just laugh out loud at the idiocy of some people. Want some REAL TRUTH about genetically modified food?

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09-16-2002, 02:02 PM

You think I actually want you to die just because I think you're nuts? Hell no. I'd rather put you up in some mental ward with Massivecock and let you two spend all day solving the true conspiracy behind the infamous spacedog.

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09-16-2002, 02:03 PM

Come on people, we've been eating shit forever

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09-16-2002, 02:06 PM

So what exactly is so bad about this stuff anyway? We eat McDonald's for Christ's sake!

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09-16-2002, 02:07 PM

I could go for some genetically perfect steaks
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09-16-2002, 02:07 PM

I have to admit the food here in US is not that healthy with all the preservatives and artificial flavors, but there is nothing wrong with genetically modified food. Take corn for example, scientists take it's genes play around with them and modify them in such a way so as to withstand insects that eat them or they insert some gene into the corn's genes, which codes for some vitamin, so instead of taking tablets of vitamin C for example, you just eat corn.
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09-16-2002, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Lev
I have to admit the food here in US is not that healthy with all the preservatives and artificial flavors, but there is nothing wrong with genetically modified food. Take corn for example, scientists take it's genes play around with them and modify them in such a way so as to withstand insects that eat them or they insert some gene into the corn's genes, which codes for some vitamin, so instead of taking tablets of vitamin C for example, you just eat corn.

LOL... "Take corn for example"

Dude...you need to do some more research.......

Banned Biotech Corn Found in Taco Bell Shells

Genetically Modified Corn Not Approved for Human Consumption

The US government said Monday it was investigating a type of genetically-modified (GM) corn, approved for use in livestock, that may have turned up in some taco shell's at the popular fast-food chain Taco Bell.

There is some concern that a protein found in the altered corn could cause an allergic reaction in some consumers, which is why the FDA had not approved of its use in humans.

The US government is currently in the process of finalizing guidelines for the approval of new varieties of GM foods.

US government scientists claim that the GM corn, named "StarLink", is safe for cattle, pigs and other farm animals.

Regulators said if they determined the corn was in the taco shells, the products would be immediately pulled off the market. "If we find there was any infraction, then we're going to come down very, very hard on those responsible," said Dave Cohen, a spokesman for the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The EPA and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), share authority over gene-spliced foods, and are jointly investigating the accusations.

The presence of the unapproved corn in Taco Bell shells sold in grocery stores, is being alleged by the anti-biotech organization Friends of the Earth (http://www.foe.org/), who also have an exclusive anti-GM activist page at http://www.gefoodalert.org.

The boxes of taco shells sold under the Taco Bell brand were produced by Kraft Foods Inc., a unit of Philip Morris Co. Inc.

The corn variety in question (StarLink) was developed by Aventis SA and is another type of Bt corn, which is spliced with a naturally occurring plant pesticide known as bacillus thuringiensis, which is deadly for the European corn borer.

According to Friends of the Earth, independent laboratory, Genetic ID Inc., concluded in three sets of tests that the samples contained StarLink corn.

Samples of taco shells from Taco Bell restaurants will also be tested soon, group members said.

The testing was done by Genetic ID Inc. at the request of Friends of the Earth. Three sets of tests, performed first in August, all found evidence of the Cry9C protein in the taco shells, said Jeffrey Smith, vice president of Genetic ID.

No illnesses have been reported from the taco shells, in part because consumers are unaware the product contains a potential allergen, the group said.

"This raises disturbing questions about the adequacy of the US regulatory system for genetically modified foods," said Jane Rissler of The Union of Concerned Scientists (http://www.ucsusa.org/), a member of the anti-biotech coalition. "The FDA has yet to require a single test for safety."

Kraft Foods said it was trying to locate and test the same batch of taco shells analyzed by Friends of the Earth. Nearly 150,000 boxes of Taco Bell shells, each containing a dozen, were produced in the same batches as those supposedly contaminated.

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09-16-2002, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by MrPopup
Check it out. Looks like America has decided to allow corporations to commit mass genocide on its citizens.

Heres the link...FrankenFoods

Here's an excerpt...
"Milk from cloned cows and meat from the offspring of cloned cows and pigs could show up on grocery shelves as early as next year under the plans of livestock breeders who are already raising scores of clones on American farmsteads."

Brought to you by some form of NestleMonsantoPhillipMorris Corp. I'm sure....

HINT: You must be pretty fucking stupid if you still don't read your food labels.

HINT: You must be EVEN dumber to try and suggest that the merits of genetically modified food outweigh the tremendous harm about to be unleashed on an unsuspecting public.

However, I suppose alot of you are having a grand old time with that "terror" thingy. Didn't y'all know that this whole terrorism nonsense is just a ruse to prevent you from caring about real issues like the environment, and your own personal health? Nah? You didn't know? Thats okay, turn on Survivor and pacify yourself. The rest of the world will take care of things for you.

HOLY CRAP! Thanks for the warning/reminder! I almost forgot Survivor starts soon...

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09-16-2002, 02:31 PM

A HUGE portion of the World has been eating genetically engineered vegatables and such for years. I read all the content and materials on seed that my ex FIL planted for (more than)10 years. It included forms of cloning to get the right effects they wanted.

How do you think they ever went from 20 bushels of corn an acre to 80 and more?! So they went to meat to do that with. Its not all that much different than plants. Better reading? Toothpaste. Look up the things in that.

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09-16-2002, 02:36 PM

The taco shell thing was a year or more back and the story behind it was it was feed corn that got into the wrong place. Things like that happen.

Don't trust some "independent lab" without going to their files and seeing if 1) they have ANY credible scientists etc on staff and 2) aren't located in and using your neighbors garage for their lab. lol

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09-16-2002, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Gemini
Don't trust some "independent lab" without going to their files and seeing if 1) they have ANY credible scientists etc on staff and 2) aren't located in and using your neighbors garage for their lab. lol

You're right. From now on I should trust you.

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09-16-2002, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
There are definitely some missing premises here. Is there any evidence a cloned cow is any different from the cow it was cloned from? If there is, then someone didn't do a good job of cloning, right?

Actually, cloned animals do have a high chance of having defective genes- we're nowhere near making perfect copies.

Defective doesn't mean they're inedible. That's coming from a vegetarian. I don't think it's terribly nice, or wise, to produce animals that could never survive naturally, in the hope that they will be ideal producers. At some point, it's just silly. People want steak, fine. People eating "supermeat" 3 times a day, somethin ain't right.

GM crops are a different issue. Introducing new ubercompetitve organisms into an established ecology is dicey at best. Anybody who's seen simple foreign transplanting- e.g. what kudzu vines have done in the southern u.s., the australian toad plague, what the introduction of boars has done to the diversity of hawaiian bird species, can see that these introductions may be incautious and may have unforseen environmental consequenses.

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09-16-2002, 06:09 PM

We should import our food from Pakistan, or Afghanistan then

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09-16-2002, 10:02 PM

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09-16-2002, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by MrPopup

LOL... "Take corn for example"

Dude...you need to do some more research.......

Banned Biotech Corn Found in Taco Bell Shells

Genetically Modified Corn Not Approved for Human Consumption

The US government said Monday it was investigating a type of genetically-modified (GM) corn, approved for use in livestock, that may have turned up in some taco shell's at the popular fast-food chain Taco Bell.

(etc.)

Hysteria strikes again. If some people are allergic to the genetically modified corn, before anyone declares that "the sky is falling," let me point out that plenty of people are allergic to natural corn, and probably some of those people are NOT allergic to genetically modified stuff.

Whatever the food is, somebody somewhere is allergic to it, and an allergy to corn is not at all an uncommon one.

The corn was "not approved for human consumption," which to me means it wasn't approved YET. I seem to see some people jumping to the conclusion that it had been DISapproved for human consumption. If that is actually the case, will someone point that out?

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09-16-2002, 10:17 PM

The thing I hate about democracy as a whole is that whenever there is a debate like this, the government can lie through their teeth and get away with it, whenever and wherever they want, as long as it's worth it. On the other hand, do we really care what they do as long as the country runs smoooothly?

It seems like for every point there are equally believable counter-points, and therefore it's hard to decipher the line of what's really happening. We hear the most things from people outside the situation dreaming about the possibilities. Is there another way though? I dunno.
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09-16-2002, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by Socks
The thing I hate about democracy as a whole is that whenever there is a debate like this, the government can lie through their teeth and get away with it, whenever and wherever they want, as long as it's worth it.

Tell me how the Government is lying please?

Would you prefer a communistic state? Where there is no response, or no accountability? Where you would be killed for that very thought?

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09-16-2002, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by MrPopup

Didn't y'all know that this whole terrorism nonsense is just a ruse to prevent you from caring about real issues like the environment, and your own personal health?

I do believe this thing on terror is more to do with oil than on hiding what people are being fed.
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09-17-2002, 06:23 AM

People tend to fear that which they do not understand. In the middle ages it resulted in witch burnings, these days it results in paranoid websites like the one referenced above. Unfortunately, some people have discovered that they can gain money/power/prestige by pandering to the alarmist tendancies of the ignorant.

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