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  • WWC
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    • Jul 2003
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    #1

    Why are Yu Gi Oh Cards so damn expensive?

    My son is 6 and loves them...has like 1000 of them...

    9 cards for $9.95? damn...thats like 1 buck each?
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  • NaughtyRob
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    #2
    My son stopped collecting them like a year ago, but yeah, they are fucking expensive.
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    • UniversalPass Pete
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      #3
      My son is 6 also bro!

      Just about everything thses days is expensive for 6 year olds!


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      • newbreed
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        • Nov 2003
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        #4
        I know man, it's horrible. My little brother has an ass load of them also, he has one room full of that stuff and always wants more. He doesnt care anymore when he gets duplicates because he has a little trading ring at this school.....LOLOL

        I don't think he even knows how to play the damn game, he just counts the life points or whatever and takes peoples cards...

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        • Screaming
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          • Feb 2004
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          #5
          its like with any other toy, they know you will pay it cause your kids want it, got is what that is called lol

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          • wdsguy
            Ryde or Die
            • Dec 2002
            • 19568

            #6
            dude where do u buy them, goto china town or something they are like 4 bucks a pack. You are getting ripped off if you buy them at glendale galleria or something

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            • VeriSexy
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              #7
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              • HammerTime33
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                • Sep 2004
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                #8
                pokemon, yeah bout $1,300 worth, luckily my boy is 13 now so when he wanted yu-gi-oh cards I told to he better start savin fer some puss cause I aint payin fer that for em.

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                • Warden
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                  #9
                  Because stupid parents like us will buy them for our kids!
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                  • Rictor
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                    • Jan 2001
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                    #10
                    Where are you buying packs of 9 cards for $9.95? In my comic shops we sell them for $3.95. Maybe you should start buying from me. I've also got grab bags of 50 cards for $9.95.

                    Yu-Gi-Oh is almost dead...it was making us nice money two years ago. An extra $10,000 a month or so...nothing like the extra $100k a month we made during the Pokemon craze though.

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                    • BitterPen
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                      • Sep 2004
                      • 1926

                      #11
                      I wish I knew... My son is also 6 years old, and for Christmas all he wanted were Yu Gi Oh cards and accessories. I got him that "Duel Disk" for $29.99, 6 packs of YGO cards at $4/each, and some action figures at like $12/each. They are making a killing on this stuff. Too bad I have no idea whether they are worth anything. He's got a bunch that look rare, but we don't know. I know there's some kind of guide out there, so I need to pick it up...

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                      • Rictor
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                        • Jan 2001
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                        #12
                        Maybe I should start a website and combine my mainstream and adult biz. Yu-Gi-Oh cards in exchange for traffic, content, or sign-ups.

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                        • emthree
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                          • Jun 2003
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                          #13
                          Dude you ever heard those big ass words they use? When they talk this Yu Gi Oh lingo?
                          I'm going to summon my dark eyed red dragon from the grave yard to defeat your big toed swastika driven monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                          • emthree
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                            • Jun 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BitterPen
                            I wish I knew... My son is also 6 years old, and for Christmas all he wanted were Yu Gi Oh cards and accessories. I got him that "Duel Disk" for $29.99, 6 packs of YGO cards at $4/each, and some action figures at like $12/each.
                            Bought the same stuff
                            and the fucking duel disk doesnt do shit

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                            • Varius
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                              • Jun 2004
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                              #15
                              if you think 10$ is a lot, imagine paying $200 or more for out-of-print magic:the gathering boosters (12 or 15 cards)
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                              • Rictor
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                                • Jan 2001
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Varius
                                if you think 10$ is a lot, imagine paying $200 or more for out-of-print magic:the gathering boosters (12 or 15 cards)
                                I love Magic...there's a 50% markup on it. Yu-Gi-Oh is like 40% markup at $4 a pack.

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                                • WWC
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                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 11577

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by UniversalPass Pete
                                  My son is 6 also bro!

                                  Just about everything thses days is expensive for 6 year olds!
                                  nice!!! cool...didnt know you had a son ....very cool...you guys need to come by some day man.... :-)
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                                  • Vitasoy
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                                    #18
                                    Because they'll know that their parents will buy them


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                                    • boner 2.0
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                                      • Jul 2004
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                                      #19
                                      Japanesse cartoon, anime, cards, toys are all damn expensive just take a look at jlist.com How can someone pay a stuffed toy (Like domo-kun) 120 bucks? hehe crazy!

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                                      • TheMob
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                                        • Jan 2003
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                                        #20
                                        what is yu gi oh?

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                                        • wdsguy
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                                          • Dec 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rictor
                                          I love Magic...there's a 50% markup on it. Yu-Gi-Oh is like 40% markup at $4 a pack.

                                          How many comic book shops do you own? I always thought it would be pretty cool to run one since I practically lived in one playing magic the gathering and other stuff as a kid- sure kept me outta trouble

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                                          • wdsguy
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                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 19568

                                            #22
                                            hey rictor can u email me plz chen(at)adult.com

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                                            • SykkBoy2
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                                              #23
                                              my son is a total Yu Gi Oh maniac....it would almost be cheaper tog get him to start smoking pot....
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                                              • PersianKitty
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Rictor
                                                I love Magic...there's a 50% markup on it. Yu-Gi-Oh is like 40% markup at $4 a pack.

                                                So... Rictor.. what do you sell a box of Rise of Destiny or Dark Beginnings for?

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                                                • Corleone
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                                                  • Apr 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  check this :

                                                  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...945993227&rd=1

                                                  3 cards for $46 :/

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                                                  • xclusive
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                                                    #26
                                                    Wild stuff and it's just brilliant marketing on their part...

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                                                    • gideongallery
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Varius
                                                      if you think 10$ is a lot, imagine paying $200 or more for out-of-print magic:the gathering boosters (12 or 15 cards)
                                                      hey i remember this game, i paid for my college education playing magic competetively


                                                      This was insane how much money was available playing tourney.

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                                                      • Alexander D Great
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                                                        #28
                                                        I remember Magic the Gathering too!! I was playing the game when i was like 16, then i just started going out more!! :D :D :D
                                                        Seriously now these kid's trends are annoying me, these companies make a killing and these things are even worth anything really...
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                                                        • TheFrog
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Corleone
                                                          almost as bad as the pokemon craze

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                                                          • ronaldo
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by newbreed
                                                            I don't think he even knows how to play the damn game, he just counts the life points or whatever and takes peoples cards...
                                                            Oh my god, have you SEEN the rules for that shit??

                                                            I looked at them for about half an hour and didn't even learn 20% of the game. How in the hell can you try to explain that to a 6 year old?

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                                                            • Varius
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                              hey i remember this game, i paid for my college education playing magic competetively


                                                              This was insane how much money was available playing tourney.
                                                              Still is! Millions of dollars are awarded worldwide now at tourneys....I haven't played since high school, but I tried out MTG Online and it's not bad...
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                                                              • BitterPen
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                my son is a total Yu Gi Oh maniac....it would almost be cheaper tog get him to start smoking pot....
                                                                ROFLMAO OMG..

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                                                                • gideongallery
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Varius
                                                                  Still is! Millions of dollars are awarded worldwide now at tourneys....I haven't played since high school, but I tried out MTG Online and it's not bad...
                                                                  It was really sick when i was playing
                                                                  after legends came out i made a killer black white deck

                                                                  4 chains
                                                                  4 howling mines
                                                                  4 island san
                                                                  sol ring
                                                                  black lotus
                                                                  mox pearl
                                                                  mox jet
                                                                  mind twist
                                                                  4 wilo wisps
                                                                  1 demonic tutor
                                                                  2 lib of leng
                                                                  1 ivory tower
                                                                  2 mana vaults

                                                                  the rest were a mixture of cards (creatures, disenchants, drain lifes, terror, spirit links, paralyse) which could be switched into and out of my sideboard to combat different deck structures.

                                                                  deck design was a hand distructions/deck distructions

                                                                  The goal was to get one howling mind 2 chains and a island santuary out.

                                                                  with that combo you would draw two cards and have to throw away 2 while i would draw one, be immune from attacks and still be able to draw one

                                                                  then just had to wait for a mind twist or the demon tutor to come up and then clear the hand and you would not be able to draw another card.

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                                                                  • Varius
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                    It was really sick when i was playing
                                                                    after legends came out i made a killer black white deck

                                                                    4 chains
                                                                    4 howling mines
                                                                    4 island san
                                                                    sol ring
                                                                    black lotus
                                                                    mox pearl
                                                                    mox jet
                                                                    mind twist
                                                                    4 wilo wisps
                                                                    1 demonic tutor
                                                                    2 lib of leng
                                                                    1 ivory tower
                                                                    2 mana vaults

                                                                    the rest were a mixture of cards (creatures, disenchants, drain lifes, terror, spirit links, paralyse) which could be switched into and out of my sideboard to combat different deck structures.

                                                                    deck design was a hand distructions/deck distructions

                                                                    The goal was to get one howling mind 2 chains and a island santuary out.

                                                                    with that combo you would draw two cards and have to throw away 2 while i would draw one, be immune from attacks and still be able to draw one

                                                                    then just had to wait for a mind twist or the demon tutor to come up and then clear the hand and you would not be able to draw another card.
                                                                    Back then I didnt have much cash and started around Revised....so my fave deck was a red/green dragon/burn deck

                                                                    Shivans, elves for mana ofcourse, dragon whelps, juggernauts, channel/fireball, etc...

                                                                    Also had a mono-black discard deck and a white weenie....but ive prob tried about every deck type out there ;p

                                                                    in MTG Online, the last thing I had was a blue/red land-destruction deck with a bounce twist. If I could get our Isochron scepter and imprint Boomerang on it, i could return one land to your hand each turn...if its early, you are screwed. If it's late, i'll use my LD spells to take away your land while i boomerang stuff...
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                                                                    • WWC
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      I remember when i bought baseball cards for 35 cents for 35 cards....and a piece of gum...remember the strip of gum in cards? lol
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                                                                      • wargames
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Rictor
                                                                        Where are you buying packs of 9 cards for $9.95? In my comic shops we sell them for $3.95. Maybe you should start buying from me. I've also got grab bags of 50 cards for $9.95.

                                                                        Yu-Gi-Oh is almost dead...it was making us nice money two years ago. An extra $10,000 a month or so...nothing like the extra $100k a month we made during the Pokemon craze though.
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                                                                        • Paco, of Large Cash.
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          that is what happens when demand comes in to play -- they know most parents spoil their children and will not say 'no', so up the goes $.

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                                                                          • Rictor
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                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 12208

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by PersianKitty
                                                                            So... Rictor.. what do you sell a box of Rise of Destiny or Dark Beginnings for?
                                                                            Like $90 in the store...they are much cheaper on Ebay, I believe, but we aren't competing with Ebay.

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                                                                            • Rictor
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                                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by wdsguy
                                                                              How many comic book shops do you own? I always thought it would be pretty cool to run one since I practically lived in one playing magic the gathering and other stuff as a kid- sure kept me outta trouble
                                                                              5

                                                                              Check out Downtown Comics.

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                                                                              • gideongallery
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Varius
                                                                                Back then I didnt have much cash and started around Revised....so my fave deck was a red/green dragon/burn deck

                                                                                Shivans, elves for mana ofcourse, dragon whelps, juggernauts, channel/fireball, etc...

                                                                                Also had a mono-black discard deck and a white weenie....but ive prob tried about every deck type out there ;p

                                                                                in MTG Online, the last thing I had was a blue/red land-destruction deck with a bounce twist. If I could get our Isochron scepter and imprint Boomerang on it, i could return one land to your hand each turn...if its early, you are screwed. If it's late, i'll use my LD spells to take away your land while i boomerang stuff...
                                                                                I have been a fan of black/green or black/white decks.

                                                                                my favorite combo was white knight/wirling devish and pestilence i could take out all creatures and still keep my pestilence


                                                                                Never got to play with isochron scepter but i would definately add it to my deck if i were playing now, (berserk , shelter , Raise the Alarm, humble,Blessed Reversal, fog )

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                                                                                • WWC
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Paco, of Large Cash.
                                                                                  that is what happens when demand comes in to play -- they know most parents spoil their children and will not say 'no', so up the goes $.

                                                                                  DB, DBZ & DBGT
                                                                                  yes and so are other toys...there is a big demand, but i still dont understand why THESE particular cards are so expensive?
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                                                                                  • SykkBoy2
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Paco, of Large Cash.
                                                                                    that is what happens when demand comes in to play -- they know most parents spoil their children and will not say 'no', so up the goes $.

                                                                                    DB, DBZ & DBGT
                                                                                    in my case, my son gets his cards in exchange for an allowance, so it has become a reward that he earns

                                                                                    today he sold his first duplicate sets for a profit. He got a bunch of sets for Christmas from various relatives and had some duplicates, so sold 3 of them to his buddy for $5...the little entrepreneur...brings a tear to my eye
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                                                                                    • DesignWise
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      never liked yu-gi-yo Magic:The gathering still works for me!
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                                                                                      • Varius
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Rictor
                                                                                        5

                                                                                        Check out Downtown Comics.
                                                                                        That's cool man....I was manager of a comic book shop once, until it vanished (literally!)

                                                                                        I came in to work (as I had done the day before...) and found the store dark, so figured my boss just hadn't opened that day. Then my key didn't work and upon further inspection, the store was completely empty.

                                                                                        I found out he got busted for software piracy the night before, so the law came and emptied out the store and shut him down
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                                                                                        • BVF
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          yu gi oh is a passing fad....Try having girls who wants barbie shit. Barbie has been around for YEARS and still going strong. Her dream house cost 100. Her barbie video camera cost 80. That isn't including the little barbie shit that my daughter wanted.

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                                                                                          • Varius
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                            I have been a fan of black/green or black/white decks.

                                                                                            my favorite combo was white knight/wirling devish and pestilence i could take out all creatures and still keep my pestilence


                                                                                            Never got to play with isochron scepter but i would definately add it to my deck if i were playing now, (berserk , shelter , Raise the Alarm, humble,Blessed Reversal, fog )
                                                                                            I just opened up MTGO to get the deck listing...here it is:

                                                                                            2x Concentrate
                                                                                            2x Echoing Ruin
                                                                                            3x Hill Giant
                                                                                            3x Isochron Scepter
                                                                                            3x Mahamoti Djinn
                                                                                            3x Serum Visions
                                                                                            4x Boomerang
                                                                                            4x Condescend
                                                                                            4x Molten Rain
                                                                                            4x Shock
                                                                                            4x Stone Rain
                                                                                            12x Island
                                                                                            12x Mountain

                                                                                            There is nothing better/more fun than killing your opponent with a Hill Giant in 2004 because he laughs that it's in your deck, but then can't get anything into play to stop it and loses

                                                                                            Although I have found that 80% of people just concede the match if I get out Isochron/Boomerang before round 5, which happens often...that is kind of boring.
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                                                                                            • Trixxxia
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Actually, they're expensive because you are buying them in single packs. Try going to either a distributor or a store specializing in them, get a box full - you'll save a minimum of 50% and then you give them to him as he earns them. That's what I used to do with my son - and I wouldn't let him 'play' with them unless they were doubles

                                                                                              The deal was that if we were to spend so much money, he would have to collect them & keep them in mint condition. He didn't have a choice and with all the doubles he had a fair amount to play/compete/trade with. We have 3-4 pokemon cards that were worth $400.US each at one point. Once a new movie is made the value and interest comes back.

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                                                                                              • gideongallery
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                hey just a question what is a UL time walk worth now

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                                                                                                • gideongallery
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Varius
                                                                                                  I just opened up MTGO to get the deck listing...here it is:

                                                                                                  2x Concentrate
                                                                                                  2x Echoing Ruin
                                                                                                  3x Hill Giant
                                                                                                  3x Isochron Scepter
                                                                                                  3x Mahamoti Djinn
                                                                                                  3x Serum Visions
                                                                                                  4x Boomerang
                                                                                                  4x Condescend
                                                                                                  4x Molten Rain
                                                                                                  4x Shock
                                                                                                  4x Stone Rain
                                                                                                  12x Island
                                                                                                  12x Mountain

                                                                                                  There is nothing better/more fun than killing your opponent with a Hill Giant in 2004 because he laughs that it's in your deck, but then can't get anything into play to stop it and loses

                                                                                                  Although I have found that 80% of people just concede the match if I get out Isochron/Boomerang before round 5, which happens often...that is kind of boring.

                                                                                                  I don't think you would have much luck against me
                                                                                                  forcing people to discard a card before they draw is a game killer especially if you have mind twisted their hand away.


                                                                                                  i think mind twist is banned now , but that when it was available it was a killer card.

                                                                                                  Especially with dark rituals being available,
                                                                                                  i don't know how many matches i won because of a first round mind twist and a second round animate dead.

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                                                                                                  • Varius
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by gideongallery

                                                                                                    I don't think you would have much luck against me
                                                                                                    forcing people to discard a card before they draw is a game killer especially if you have mind twisted their hand away.


                                                                                                    i think mind twist is banned now , but that when it was available it was a killer card.

                                                                                                    Especially with dark rituals being available,
                                                                                                    i don't know how many matches i won because of a first round mind twist and a second round animate dead.
                                                                                                    I don't find chains that powerful because they are mostly only useful in combos, not on their own. Read the last part of the card:

                                                                                                    "This enchantment does not apply to the first card drawn by a player during the draw phase."

                                                                                                    So unless something is out making me draw more than the usual one card per turn, your chains aren't affecting me. Also, they don't specify opponent, so they work against you as well.

                                                                                                    I much prefer Underworld Dreams

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