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  • Big E
    Registered User
    • Mar 2002
    • 935

    #1

    iBill - what are they asking for?

    For people who are "owed" payments and have theoretically switched over to Gkard, what is iBill asking for? I had heard they are asking for continued sending of signups to get previous money. What constitutes "continued" sending of traffic? If a website stops sending signups, they're not going to get any future payments? How is this all going to work?
  • TheWylders
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2004
    • 623

    #2
    I don't think you have to send a specific number of signups to remain active, as long as you haven't removed the link.

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    • Big E
      Registered User
      • Mar 2002
      • 935

      #3
      That's cool.. just "de-emphasize" the link. ha ha ha =)

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      • Hinc
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2004
        • 2577

        #4
        What´s the big difference by now?

        If you keep the link - they dont send any money.
        If you remove the link - they dont send any money

        Ah yeah I know, at least one of the options sort of keeps hope alive...but it seems more like a daydream than a strategy.
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        • MandyBlake
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          • Nov 2002
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          #5
          why not ask your account rep?
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          • crockett
            in a van by the river
            • May 2003
            • 76818

            #6
            Originally posted by MandyBlake
            why not ask your account rep?
            wouldn't that be like asking someone to blow smoke up your ass?

            lol if Ibill owed me a lot of money, with their recant track record.. Well to put it simply they would be the last ones I'd be asking anything but wheres my money.
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            • aiken
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2003
              • 204

              #7
              Hey, Big E. I haven't seen you for a while; hope things are good and maybe we'll run into each other in Vegas. The 420hp t/a is for sale at that place in the gaslamp, if you're looking for a new fast car

              Anyways, if Ibill is telling you you have to send them more business in order for them to repay an admitted debt... talk to a lawyer. They owe you money -- threatening to withhold that debt unless you send more business certainly opens them up to additional civil liability, and possibly criminal liability as well. Your lawyer will be able to give the best advice on how to proceed.

              Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.

              Cheers
              -b
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              • Hinc
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2004
                • 2577

                #8
                Originally posted by aiken
                Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.
                I send the fuckas 2 new signups today, maybe tomorrow they´ll send a mighty nice huge check....or not...

                Btw, nice to be reminded of bondage.com, i´d forgotten i was actually still a premium member there
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                • Cogitator
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 672

                  #9
                  I heard IBill is going to have a booth in Vegas. Man, that takes balls. They're going to get so much shit from people...
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                  • NETbilling
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8598

                    #10
                    Originally posted by aiken
                    Hey, Big E. I haven't seen you for a while; hope things are good and maybe we'll run into each other in Vegas. The 420hp t/a is for sale at that place in the gaslamp, if you're looking for a new fast car

                    Anyways, if Ibill is telling you you have to send them more business in order for them to repay an admitted debt... talk to a lawyer. They owe you money -- threatening to withhold that debt unless you send more business certainly opens them up to additional civil liability, and possibly criminal liability as well. Your lawyer will be able to give the best advice on how to proceed.

                    Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.

                    Cheers
                    -b
                    Aiken,

                    Please call me at the office tomorrow or hit me up on ICQ. I wanted to invite yoou to a friends/clients dinner that we are sponsoring in Vegas. I also have Rumjungle tickets for you.


                    Looking forward to seeing you.

                    Mitch

                    P.S. Big-E, let me know if your dinner plans change on the 3rd as we would love to have you join us as well. Of course, I have your tickets as well.


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                    • Giorgio_Xo
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 4263

                      #11
                      As mentioned before.. if Ibill doesn't pay what they offered by Internext, I will forward a complaint of fraud before the U.S. Attorney's office.
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                      • MissMina
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2478

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hinc
                        What´s the big difference by now?

                        If you keep the link - they dont send any money.
                        If you remove the link - they dont send any money

                        .

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                        • MissMina
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2478

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                          As mentioned before.. if Ibill doesn't pay what they offered by Internext, I will forward a complaint of fraud before the U.S. Attorney's office.
                          Let us know how it turns out.

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                          • GTS Mark
                            Vrume Mark
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 20912

                            #14
                            Big E, if you showed up at their corporate offices I am sure they would whip the cheque book out asap. LOL! You're one intense guy, especially at the craps tables

                            DH

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                            • psyko514
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by aiken
                              Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.

                              Cheers
                              -b
                              After all this bullshit they've put everyone through, you'd still send them business if they made good on their debts?

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                              • Hinc
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                                • Oct 2004
                                • 2577

                                #16
                                Originally posted by psyko514
                                After all this bullshit they've put everyone through, you'd still send them business if they made good on their debts?
                                Actually, in some strange way - they may have figured, they are forced to not pay us what they owe, because they´re aware that when they do, we´re out of there with the pity remains of their business.

                                As it is, at least some stay, in the hope that they´ll pay - thus filling their pockets for as long as it goes...
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                                • Big E
                                  Registered User
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 935

                                  #17
                                  Thanks for all the comments guys..

                                  I should note that this isn't for us - I'm asking the question for someone else. Mac and Bumble has been on its own merchant account since May.

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                                  • Big E
                                    Registered User
                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 935

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by aiken
                                    Hey, Big E. I haven't seen you for a while; hope things are good and maybe we'll run into each other in Vegas. The 420hp t/a is for sale at that place in the gaslamp, if you're looking for a new fast car

                                    Anyways, if Ibill is telling you you have to send them more business in order for them to repay an admitted debt... talk to a lawyer. They owe you money -- threatening to withhold that debt unless you send more business certainly opens them up to additional civil liability, and possibly criminal liability as well. Your lawyer will be able to give the best advice on how to proceed.

                                    Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.
                                    Yeah, I'm in the market for a new fast car, but I've already got my eye on something else.. I'll show you pix when I get it. =)

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                                    • Big E
                                      Registered User
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 935

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                      Big E, if you showed up at their corporate offices I am sure they would whip the cheque book out asap. LOL! You're one intense guy, especially at the craps tables
                                      DH
                                      Ha ha.. good stuff. You'll know where to find me if you want to play some more.. I made you some good money. =) I'll try not to get us cut off this time..

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                                      • Zprogramz
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 1360

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Big E
                                        Thanks for all the comments guys..

                                        I should note that this isn't for us - I'm asking the question for someone else. Mac and Bumble has been on its own merchant account since May.
                                        Who did you get you merchant account through and who are you processing with?

                                        Z

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                                        • HMS
                                          Registered User
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 84

                                          #21
                                          If you are looking for your own merchant account I will soon be able to assist. Humboldt Merchant Services currently processes multi-million dollars per month in adult transactions. We truly desire to bring on more adult accounts, but Visa has put a temporary stop to that. We have reached our "maximum allowable ratio" of adult vs. non adult processing dollars. As our non adult portfolio grows we will again be able to bring on additional adult accounts. We are looking at March/April to be able to do so. If you feel you would be interested I am currently building a list of folks to contact as soon as this opens up. Simply email me your contact info and I will add you to my notification list.

                                          HMS does require the following:
                                          -2 years in business
                                          -currently processing $100K per month (can by 3rd party, direct, or combination of)
                                          -CB's under 1%
                                          -using one of a select few gateways (NETBILLING, Jettis, CyberSource, etc)

                                          If you meet these I can get you the following rates:
                                          Discount Rate (non qualified) 4.6%
                                          Transaction fee $0.30 (including AVS)
                                          Monthly Statement Fee $10.00
                                          High Risk registration / set-up fees $2790

                                          Believe me when I say I would LOVE to bring these accounts on now, but Visa simply will not allow it.

                                          EMAIL ME TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN WE ARE AGAIN ABLE TO OPEN DIRECT ACCOUNTS!

                                          Steve Kimberling, AVP
                                          Humboldt Merchant Services
                                          877-635-3339
                                          [email protected]

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                                          • NETbilling
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 8598

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HMS
                                            If you are looking for your own merchant account I will soon be able to assist. Humboldt Merchant Services currently processes multi-million dollars per month in adult transactions. We truly desire to bring on more adult accounts, but Visa has put a temporary stop to that. We have reached our "maximum allowable ratio" of adult vs. non adult processing dollars. As our non adult portfolio grows we will again be able to bring on additional adult accounts. We are looking at March/April to be able to do so. If you feel you would be interested I am currently building a list of folks to contact as soon as this opens up. Simply email me your contact info and I will add you to my notification list.

                                            HMS does require the following:
                                            -2 years in business
                                            -currently processing $100K per month (can by 3rd party, direct, or combination of)
                                            -CB's under 1%
                                            -using one of a select few gateways (NETBILLING, Jettis, CyberSource, etc)

                                            If you meet these I can get you the following rates:
                                            Discount Rate (non qualified) 4.6%
                                            Transaction fee $0.30 (including AVS)
                                            Monthly Statement Fee $10.00
                                            High Risk registration / set-up fees $2790

                                            Believe me when I say I would LOVE to bring these accounts on now, but Visa simply will not allow it.

                                            EMAIL ME TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN WE ARE AGAIN ABLE TO OPEN DIRECT ACCOUNTS!

                                            Steve Kimberling, AVP
                                            Humboldt Merchant Services
                                            877-635-3339
                                            [email protected]
                                            Humboldt is a great bank to work with and we have MANY merchants placed there. While Humboldt is awaiting the ability to take on new adult merchants, Netbilling has solutions to set merchants up for adult membership, products and mainstream including retail.

                                            Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
                                            Outside the US: (661)252-2456

                                            Thank you, Mitch Farber

                                            p.s. Will you be at Internext Steve?


                                            Mitch Farber
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                                            Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
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                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 30307

                                              #23
                                              Ibill is actually gonna have a booth?

                                              I will be staying clear of it, I wouldnt be surprised if a suicide bomber hits it.

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                                              • HMS
                                                Registered User
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 84

                                                #24
                                                Mitch -

                                                InterNext is not on the horizon for me, unfortunately. I am not sure if we will have other members in attendance or not. In any event I will keep you, and anyone else interested, updated as to when we can take on new adult clients. THE SOONER THE BETTER!

                                                Steve Kimberling, AVP
                                                Humboldt Merchant Services
                                                877-635-3339
                                                [email protected]

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                                                • DEA - banned for life
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                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                  • 7886

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by HMS
                                                  If you are looking for your own merchant account I will soon be able to assist. Humboldt Merchant Services currently processes multi-million dollars per month in adult transactions. We truly desire to bring on more adult accounts, but Visa has put a temporary stop to that. We have reached our "maximum allowable ratio" of adult vs. non adult processing dollars. As our non adult portfolio grows we will again be able to bring on additional adult accounts. We are looking at March/April to be able to do so. If you feel you would be interested I am currently building a list of folks to contact as soon as this opens up. Simply email me your contact info and I will add you to my notification list.

                                                  HMS does require the following:
                                                  -2 years in business
                                                  -currently processing $100K per month (can by 3rd party, direct, or combination of)
                                                  -CB's under 1%
                                                  -using one of a select few gateways (NETBILLING, Jettis, CyberSource, etc)

                                                  If you meet these I can get you the following rates:
                                                  Discount Rate (non qualified) 4.6%
                                                  Transaction fee $0.30 (including AVS)
                                                  Monthly Statement Fee $10.00
                                                  High Risk registration / set-up fees $2790

                                                  Believe me when I say I would LOVE to bring these accounts on now, but Visa simply will not allow it.

                                                  EMAIL ME TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN WE ARE AGAIN ABLE TO OPEN DIRECT ACCOUNTS!

                                                  Steve Kimberling, AVP
                                                  Humboldt Merchant Services
                                                  877-635-3339
                                                  [email protected]
                                                  Any chance of getting the visa fee waived for new accounts?Some of us who are getting dry fucked in the turd cutterby Ibill sure could use a break on switching over to a new processor.?

                                                  ..oops almost forgot...IBILL will most likley be charging the Annual 350$ fee for visa's here shortly...if im correct it was 750$ to get in and 350$ a year to renew??...Wonder how that will go over

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                                                  • DEA - banned for life
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                                                    • Nov 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    That last post was actullay for mitch..

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                                                    • NETbilling
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 8598

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DEA
                                                      Any chance of getting the visa fee waived for new accounts?Some of us who are getting dry fucked in the turd cutterby Ibill sure could use a break on switching over to a new processor.?

                                                      ..oops almost forgot...IBILL will most likley be charging the Annual 350$ fee for visa's here shortly...if im correct it was 750$ to get in and 350$ a year to renew??...Wonder how that will go over
                                                      If you are in the US, you must pay the registration fees. For offshore, there is no registration fees.

                                                      Mitch


                                                      Mitch Farber
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                                                      Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
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                                                      • Hinc
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                        • 2577

                                                        #28
                                                        Sounds like some good options.

                                                        However, 100k in cross sales - gotta be honest, I was never anywhere close to that, so gotta look for options accepting smaller volumes.
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                                                        • NETbilling
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                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 8598

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Hinc
                                                          Sounds like some good options.

                                                          However, 100k in cross sales - gotta be honest, I was never anywhere close to that, so gotta look for options accepting smaller volumes.
                                                          Our mimimum volume limit for adult is 10k, not 100k.

                                                          Mitch


                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
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                                                          • Webby
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 14956

                                                            #30
                                                            If iBill do have a booth - I'm interested in the source of funds for this and which webmasters actually ended up paying for this bullshit.

                                                            I know iBill is reading GFY threads and hiding. Just know the clock is ticking... and faster.... it's down to days now before you have more of a problem than just finding funds to pay folks at least some money.

                                                            Start by answering all email... that's the easy bit.
                                                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                            • Big E
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 935

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                              Who did you get you merchant account through and who are you processing with?
                                                              Z
                                                              I'm not going to say where our merchant account is based, but I will say that we're EXTREMELY happy with our current bank.

                                                              Our gateway is NetBilling, and Mitch (and staff) have been a great help..

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                                                              • tony299
                                                                lurker
                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 57021

                                                                #32
                                                                I hope they pull through because if they dont its going to hurt.

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                                                                • DEA - banned for life
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                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                  • 7886

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                  I hope they pull through because if they dont its going to hurt.
                                                                  Hope so too..but with no new CMI updates in about a week...and noone answering the phones or emails..its hard to keep the faith .

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                                                                  • keyboard warrior
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 1435

                                                                    #34
                                                                    NO Update today in CMI :
                                                                    - nothing here -

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                                                                    • hyper
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                      • 5294

                                                                      #35
                                                                      wow more iBill drama?

                                                                      Dejavu

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                                                                      • Rochard
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                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                        • 75761

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by MandyBlake
                                                                        why not ask your account rep?
                                                                        The fired them all!
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                                                                        • tony299
                                                                          lurker
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 57021

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by RocHard
                                                                          The fired them all!
                                                                          Not true I talk to my rep bari on icq at least once a day.

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                                                                          • Webby
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 14956

                                                                            #38
                                                                            tony404:

                                                                            Not true I talk to my rep bari on icq at least once a day.
                                                                            Yea... there are reps there - ain't their fault iBill is shit and some reps are hiding.

                                                                            Now that all excuses have been exhausted, apart from my dog died, - we are into speechless mode now and unable to respond to an email when money is mentioned. But OK otherwise....

                                                                            BTW.. still waiting for a response if iBill is reading this - and I know you are:-) And no.. I ain't gotta tell you to fuck yourself - I'll be real nice!! It's just a biz thing and clear up some lies which ya were probably pressed up to do...
                                                                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                            • Hinc
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                              • 2577

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                                              Not true I talk to my rep bari on icq at least once a day.
                                                                              Aha, and what does he tell you?

                                                                              Any payments in the horizon for instance??
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                                                                              • camcutie
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                                                                                • Oct 2004
                                                                                • 817

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                Not true I talk to my rep bari on icq at least once a day.

                                                                                Bari Rocks... shes been my rep for as long as I can remember. Always up front with me.

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