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  • Andrew-at-ENet
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2003
    • 598
    #1

    >> OFFICIAL << Spam Opt-Out Test >> OFFICIAL <<

    For the next month, I will opt out of every spam I get that has an opt out link. Every day I will post in this tread what the grand total of spam messages I received, how many had an opt out, and how many didn't. I'll also post how many made it thru my filter in outlook, and how many didn't.

    I will also not post my email address anywhere for the next 30 days.

    After 30 days, let's see if I receive less spam, as Opting out should cause.
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    • mal
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2003
      • 1899
      #2
      you'll get alot more spam from me

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        • MrJackMeHoff
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2004
          • 4569
          #3
          99% of mailers ignore remove lists.. But contrary to pop belief they dont mail removes more than anything else.. So my guess is.. No change.

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            • Andrew-at-ENet
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2003
              • 598
              #4
              Originally posted by mal
              you'll get alot more spam from me
              So be it (if I'm on your list)

              This will be the true, blue, Opt-out test.

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                • Andrew-at-ENet
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 598
                  #5
                  Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
                  99% of mailers ignore remove lists.. But contrary to pop belief they dont mail removes more than anything else.. So my guess is.. No change.
                  I believe the average will increase.

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                    • skillfull
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4716
                      #6
                      Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
                      99% of mailers ignore remove lists.. But contrary to pop belief they dont mail removes more than anything else.. So my guess is.. No change.

                      i think we should see at least a 25% decrease

                      some mailers DO care and some sponsors terms mailers for that
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                        • Andrew-at-ENet
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 598
                          #7
                          Oddly enough, since posting this thread, the spam to my email box has dropped

                          I've only gotten 8 spam messages so far in the last 3 hours, and have opted out of 3 - the other 5 had no opt out links. Real daily stats will be posted....keep watchin this thread peepz

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                            • Steen2
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 7662
                              #8
                              GFY is filled with mailers i think.


                              They can tell you what will happen.
                              ICQ: 2262.73945

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                                • Andrew-at-ENet
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2003
                                  • 598
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Steen2
                                  GFY is filled with mailers i think.


                                  They can tell you what will happen.
                                  We had a discussion about it - now I want to see if they're right.

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                                    • Evil Doer
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 915
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
                                      99% of mailers ignore remove lists.. But contrary to pop belief they dont mail removes more than anything else.. So my guess is.. No change.
                                      99% eh? If someone doesn't want a product from me, I sure as hell won't waste my time trying to target that individual. Only the newbies don't use remove list's, you waste time, resources, bandwidth, and the list goes on.

                                      My is, if you want to make money mailing,spamming or whatever you do...USE a fucking remove list and stop wasting yours and other peoples god damn time.
                                      see sig above mine

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                                        • sean416
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 3633
                                          #11
                                          I remember reading somewhere that 'opt out' links were just tricks, and in fact if you opt out, you'll receive MORE spam because they know your account is active.

                                          ServerProvider.com

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                                            • sean416
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 3633
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Evil Doer
                                              99% eh? If someone doesn't want a product from me, I sure as hell won't waste my time trying to target that individual. Only the newbies don't use remove list's, you waste time, resources, bandwidth, and the list goes on.

                                              My is, if you want to make money mailing,spamming or whatever you do...USE a fucking remove list and stop wasting yours and other peoples god damn time.
                                              Try explaining that to some russian prick promoting child porn and beastiality.

                                              ServerProvider.com

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                                                • Voodoo
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                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 10600
                                                  #13
                                                  In alot of cases, "Opting Out" will only verify the validity of that email account, and you will get put on more lists. You may be removed from THAT list, but you may, in turn get put on other lists once you verify that you are a real-box by "Opting Out".

                                                  2c

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                                                    • Steen2
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 7662
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Voodoo
                                                      In alot of cases, "Opting Out" will only verify the validity of that email account, and you will get put on more lists. You may be removed from THAT list, but you may, in turn get put on other lists once you verify that you are a real-box by "Opting Out".

                                                      2c
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                                                        • Penthouse Tony
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                          • 5835
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by sean416
                                                          I remember reading somewhere that 'opt out' links were just tricks, and in fact if you opt out, you'll receive MORE spam because they know your account is active.

                                                          I wonder if the spammers want you to believe that opting out won't work so that you don't even try to opt out.

                                                          I predict -based solely on my experiences with opting out- that his spam will be reduced by more than 50%.
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                                                            • sean416
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 3633
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                              I wonder if the spammers want you to believe that opting out won't work so that you don't even try to opt out.

                                                              I predict -based solely on my experiences with opting out- that his spam will be reduced by more than 50%.
                                                              could be... but I remember it being a reliable source. like yahoo.com or something. With testimonials saying how people would opt out, and then receive a shit load more of spam.

                                                              ServerProvider.com

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                                                                • Furious_Female
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 8187
                                                                  #17
                                                                  The problem with your test is, if you opt out of someone's list and they actually remove you, chances are the one that stops spamming you will just be replaced by another one. You get off one list and on another or that list is circulated from one mailer to another. So that's not an accurate way to track if your overall spam is being reduced by opting out.

                                                                  Anyway, there's no way of knowing if that mailer removed you from their list. Just because you stop getting the same offer from what appears to be the same mailer everyday, doesn't mean they won't mail you with a different offer from a different domain/proxy etc. with different message bodies.

                                                                  Spammers don't die, they multiply.
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                                                                    • S P A N N O W
                                                                      Everywhere You Wanna Be!
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 11941
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Bump

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                                                                        • Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                          • 598
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                          The problem with your test is, if you opt out of someone's list and they actually remove you, chances are the one that stops spamming you will just be replaced by another one. You get off one list and on another or that list is circulated from one mailer to another. So that's not an accurate way to track if your overall spam is being reduced by opting out.

                                                                          Anyway, there's no way of knowing if that mailer removed you from their list. Just because you stop getting the same offer from what appears to be the same mailer everyday, doesn't mean they won't mail you with a different offer from a different domain/proxy etc. with different message bodies.

                                                                          Spammers don't die, they multiply.
                                                                          That's not a problem with my test, that's a problem with spammers. My tests will show data, nothing more.

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                                                                            • CAHEK
                                                                              C.C.C.P.
                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                              • 7432
                                                                              #20
                                                                              tell us the results
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                                                                                • xclusive
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                  • 35218
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Interesting test I look forward to seeing the results...

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                                                                                    • D-man
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                      • 1291
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I sale you my opt out list cheep

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                                                                                        • Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                          • 598
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by CAHEK
                                                                                          tell us the results
                                                                                          4 hours before the first days results are in on how many spam messages I received, and how many had opt-out options.

                                                                                          Get pushing that spam

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                                                                                            • Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                              • 598
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              DAY ONE

                                                                                              32 Spam Messages Received
                                                                                              8 Spam Messages had an Opt-Out Link
                                                                                              7 Opt-Out links works
                                                                                              1 Opt-Out link 404'd

                                                                                              7 Messages were opt'd out of.

                                                                                              Out of 32 Spam Messages Received, Outlook filters caught 25 of them, 7 of them made it into my inbox. Out of the 7 in my inbox, 3 had Opt-out links.

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                                                                                                • I Like Chocolate
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                                  • 821
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  what is that GW sig video from?

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                                                                                                    • Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                      • 598
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                                      DAY ONE

                                                                                                      32 Spam Messages Received
                                                                                                      8 Spam Messages had an Opt-Out Link
                                                                                                      7 Opt-Out links works
                                                                                                      1 Opt-Out link 404'd

                                                                                                      7 Messages were opt'd out of.

                                                                                                      Out of 32 Spam Messages Received, Outlook filters caught 25 of them, 7 of them made it into my inbox. Out of the 7 in my inbox, 3 had Opt-out links.
                                                                                                      DAY TWO

                                                                                                      30 Spam Messages Received
                                                                                                      11 Spam Messages had an Opt-Out Link
                                                                                                      10 Opt-Out links works
                                                                                                      1 Opt-Out link 404'd

                                                                                                      10 Messages were opt'd out of.

                                                                                                      Out of 30 Spam Messages Received, Outlook filters caught 18 of them, 12 of them made it into my inbox. Out of the 12 in my inbox, 6 had Opt-out links.

                                                                                                      3 of the spam messages that had opt-out links, the URL was the same as Opt-Out messages yesterday. Total spam has decreased by 2 messages.

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                                                                                                        • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 51692
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
                                                                                                          99% of mailers ignore remove lists.. But contrary to pop belief they dont mail removes more than anything else.. So my guess is.. No change.
                                                                                                          I run my removes ...
                                                                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                          I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                              • 51692
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Voodoo
                                                                                                              In alot of cases, "Opting Out" will only verify the validity of that email account, and you will get put on more lists. You may be removed from THAT list, but you may, in turn get put on other lists once you verify that you are a real-box by "Opting Out".

                                                                                                              2c
                                                                                                              Dude ... you will only get more complaints
                                                                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                                • Entropy
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                                  • 4128
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  This will be an interesting test indeed.

                                                                                                                  As an added bonus, I will conduct a fart test to see what percentage of my farts leave a stain on my underwear.

                                                                                                                  Stay tuned.
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                                                                                                                    • Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                      • 598
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      *BUMP*

                                                                                                                      Day 3 results coming in 1 hour and 30 minutes.

                                                                                                                      The results aren't shocking IMHO

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                                                                                                                        • jimmyf
                                                                                                                          OU812
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                          • 12651
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                                                          I believe the average will increase.
                                                                                                                          and I believe you are correct
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                                                                                                                            • Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                              • 598
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                                                              DAY TWO

                                                                                                                              30 Spam Messages Received
                                                                                                                              11 Spam Messages had an Opt-Out Link
                                                                                                                              10 Opt-Out links works
                                                                                                                              1 Opt-Out link 404'd

                                                                                                                              10 Messages were opt'd out of.

                                                                                                                              Out of 30 Spam Messages Received, Outlook filters caught 18 of them, 12 of them made it into my inbox. Out of the 12 in my inbox, 6 had Opt-out links.

                                                                                                                              3 of the spam messages that had opt-out links, the URL was the same as Opt-Out messages yesterday. Total spam has decreased by 2 messages.
                                                                                                                              DAY THREE

                                                                                                                              40 Spam Messages Received
                                                                                                                              8 Spam Messages had an Opt-Out Link
                                                                                                                              7 Opt-Out links works
                                                                                                                              1 Opt-Out link 404'd

                                                                                                                              7 Messages were opt'd out of.

                                                                                                                              This shows an increase of 10 spam messages compared to yesterday, and a total increase of 8 messages since day 1.

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                                                                                                                                • Twe Russ
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 3493
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  As Dre said, a pro mailer will remove you from his list, he doesnt need you to
                                                                                                                                  mail the sponsor everyday because that wont get him paid. So you will be
                                                                                                                                  removed, but dont expect for the mailings to slow down for a while, you are
                                                                                                                                  still on plenty of lists that are being sold with your name in them opted-in.

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                                                                                                                                    • mardigras
                                                                                                                                      Bon temps!
                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 14194
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      A more revealing test would be to start with a fresh domain with unlimited e-mail aliases and make a new address for each time you use an address online and track what comes in and to where
                                                                                                                                      .

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                                                                                                                                        • Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 598
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Andrew-at-ENet
                                                                                                                                          DAY THREE

                                                                                                                                          40 Spam Messages Received
                                                                                                                                          8 Spam Messages had an Opt-Out Link
                                                                                                                                          7 Opt-Out links works
                                                                                                                                          1 Opt-Out link 404'd

                                                                                                                                          7 Messages were opt'd out of.

                                                                                                                                          This shows an increase of 10 spam messages compared to yesterday, and a total increase of 8 messages since day 1.
                                                                                                                                          DAY FOUR

                                                                                                                                          27 Spam Messages Received
                                                                                                                                          9 Spam Messages had an Opt-Out Link
                                                                                                                                          7 Opt-Out links works
                                                                                                                                          2 Opt-Out link 404'd

                                                                                                                                          7 Messages were opt'd out of.

                                                                                                                                          This shows an decrease of 13 spam messages compared to yesterday, and a total increase of 5 messages since day 1.

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                                                                                                                                            • Persius
                                                                                                                                              Tap into MOBILE!
                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 11779
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Evil Doer
                                                                                                                                              99% eh? If someone doesn't want a product from me, I sure as hell won't waste my time trying to target that individual. Only the newbies don't use remove list's, you waste time, resources, bandwidth, and the list goes on.

                                                                                                                                              My is, if you want to make money mailing,spamming or whatever you do...USE a fucking remove list and stop wasting yours and other peoples god damn time.
                                                                                                                                              exactly nice post

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                                                                                                                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 40377
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  How about Day 30?
                                                                                                                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Corleone
                                                                                                                                                      C.R.E.A.M
                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 15262
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      you'll get much more spam then.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Corleone
                                                                                                                                                          C.R.E.A.M
                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 15262
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                          How about Day 30?
                                                                                                                                                          just noticed it was a old thread;) month is over.

                                                                                                                                                          so more or less? :D

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                                                                                                                                                            • hydro
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 4216
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              lol what a waste of time

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                                                                                                                                                                • StuartD
                                                                                                                                                                  Sofa King Band
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 29903
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  You started out by receiving only 30 that day??? Uhmm.. dude, no offense.. but this should be tested by someone who receives a normal amount... like 200 - 300 a day or more.
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                                                                                                                                                                  This is me on twitter

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Vitasoy
                                                                                                                                                                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 58202
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      When I saw the results, I thought it was too little to test. But a waste of time anyways ;)


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                                                                                                                                                                        • d00t
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 3766
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          interesting test... cant wait to see how it goes for you

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