Message to Choker re banning.

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I did:

The first I heard of any of this was when sleazy icq'd me and posted a link where you were calling him a pedo repeatedly. Naturally, we won't stand for that garbage, so I decided to give you a rest from posting, aka banning.

Then, later I learned about sleazy's tasteless comment about your child.

What did I miss?

nice sig

Sleazy is just one of that useless kids you have on school as well. Playing like a big boy. Then someone wants to kick his ass, and start crying at the teachers room. Making up a story to the teacher, and don't tell the whole truth. Hoping mister bad guy gets detention. Then the useless kid starts calling names from far away.

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The first I heard of any of this was when sleazy icq'd me and posted a link where you were calling him a pedo repeatedly. Naturally, we won't stand for that garbage, so I decided to give you a rest from posting, aka banning.

Then, later I learned about sleazy's tasteless comment about your child.
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come on, we are adults right? Who is taking sleazy serious nowadays? Now I get of course the comments I don't show up my face at conventions, well I do...I don't visit them all, but once a year you can find me.

Merry Christmas

No.

Clearly.

Ho Ho Ho

Merry XXXMas Lens!

AFter I post this breakdown, this thread can be closed. This is what happened to anybody who has a lick of common sense.

Choker shouldn't have posted his daughter on this board even though he rightfully should since it's his daughter, she's FULLY CLOTHED, and she's shooting a gun....None of which can be construed as sexual.

Sleazy made a sexual remark about choker's daughter...Then says it should be expected because the name of this board is "GoFuckYourself" and that alone should justify any off color remark and says that choker should be able to take the heat of those comments and let them roll off his back because he was just "fucking around"

Choker, since he couldn't reach out and beat the shit out of sleazy for saying something like that like he would have if he said that shit to choker to his face, couldn't do anything else but resort to calling sleazy for making a CLEARLY SEXUAL statement about his daughter...And it seems like the ONLY few people who think that what he said was ok seems to be people who have hung out with him personally. Everybody else seems to have their heads out of their asses and can see the obvious truth, regardless if they're "nobody trolls" or whatnot....Obviously choker was calling sleazy a pedo because he knew it would piss him off. It's happened to me and I myself have called people pedo on this board. They're not going to whine about it though.

Even though sleazy just said that the board's name is justification for his off color remarks and that choker should just roll with the punches, once he is called a pedo on the VERY SAME board, he goes and tattles to Lensman and shows him the thread because he couldn't take the heat of being called a pedo on the board....(even though DarkJedi has called me pedo repeatedly and I wouldn't have even THOUGHT to contact the owner of this board privately to complain about it)

Lensman who is also part of this "l33t" group, jumps to the rescue of his dear buddy, sleazy and bans choker, who can be considered "the working man's webmaster" and has less popularity with the elites on this board.

Maybe choker is still banned, maybe he isn't, but sleazy got nothing but a ALLEGED tongue lashing from Lensman about it and now even though at least 95% of this board can see the truth, there are some people still holding out on this "daughter posted on a pornographic board" bullshit....That's like trying to argue Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. Only a FOOL would believe any of it.

I'm the type of dude that likes younger females. In fact, I even like to drive by the high schools and look at all of the young phat booty honies that come in and out of the school and even try to pick some of them up, but there is NO FUCKING WAY that I could have looked at that choker video and even thought of anything sexual about it. NO WAY IN HELL. It didn't cross my mind. And the ONLY way that something sexual could have been SAID about that video is if there was a sexual THOUGHT that preceded it. I don't give a fuck how you say it.

It's what they call a "Freudian Slip"

If you wanted to insult choker's putting his daughter's video on here, you could have easily come up with some "she will grow up to be a gun totin tobacco chewing trailer trash just like you" insult and it would have been more effective and harsh in proving sleazy's point. But making a SEXUAL remark about somebody's daughter would get your ass kicked and possibly get you called a pedo. That's just the way it is....And the fact that you ran and cried to Lensman about it on icq makes it look even more bitch like....And the "He will ruin my business" excuse won't wash because nobody takes anybody's comments seriously during a pissing match. It's not like nobody else wouldn't have done business with sleazy just because of some dumb pissing thread on GFY...Be serious.

I wasn't going to say anything because I thought that this would die in a day or so, but since there is page after page of THE SAME SHIT being said over and over again is stupid...

Sometimes it's just easier to say "I fucked up" from the get go and move on. All of this shit is uncalled for. I'm starting to learn that myself. And I pride myself on being an asshole just like sleazy, but I"ve come to realize that not a lot of people really want to be around an asshole. They may smile in your face, they might do business with you because you're honest, they may come and take funny pictures with you for gfy, but MOST people will avoid you like the plague and it isn't fun....And it's nice to be on top and have people kissing your ass and all of that but you better believe that the same people that are kissing your ass now are the people that wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire if your luck turned bad.

I always liked sleazy's "You're all idiots" threads. I loved how he would just bait people and have them dance all night long while he sat there and laughed at you. I liked how he was able to make so many people so mad and knowing that those people couldn't do jack shit about it. But this has taken sleazy down a notch in my opinion.

I still think he can just come out and say "I fucked up" for saying sexual comments about his daughter and mean it SINCERELY and in two weeks, everybody will be back to kissing sleazy's ass. But if he doesn't...........

yeap,hope all will be ok at the end and merry x-mas to all ;)

I fucked up - and I made a post about that and stated CLEARLY in that fucking post - "i made a mistake, I was wrong"

I'm really getting sick and fucking tired of know it all assholes who keep posting without having a fucking clue about the facts..

ahhhh, i see how this draw thing works, choker can post anything and get away with it, and I can't.

Your "apology" was not an apology...as more than one member has noted. It and your justifications/excuses are disingenuous...and that is an understatement. Bottom line is this...you are a fat sleazy no class...phoney...who is attempting to do damage control and failing in the effort.

this is getting really really fucking old.
What the fuck WOULD be an apology?

I'm getting the distinct impression that you trolls don't think I'm allowed to be human.


Personally and this is MY opinion too, the comment wasn't sexual. It was rude and way too harse and I admit that it was a mistake to post it, but not sexual and I personally believe that ANYONE who actually did take that comment as sexual has some serious dark sexual issues within themselves.

.. so this is Christmas..

While...I believe that any new apology cannot be sincerely made to Choker...at this point in time...because of the disengenuous "apology" with "justification/excuses" contained in it...which was a poorly designed effort at damage control. An apology would have been something along the lines of..."I apology to you Choker for the comments I made about your daughter and hope you will forgive me."...end of apology without the extraneous...disengenuous BS.

As for Choker posting a video of his 12 year old child on an Adult Webmaster board...I am not an advocate of posting children's pics...of any age...on an Adult Webmaster board and have spoken against it before this issue. As for Choker's calling you a Pedo...it was designed to insult you just as your post about his daughter was designed to insult him via his daughter.

Both of you owed one another a straight up apology without disengenuous...extraneous BS...but at this point I think it is too late for either of you to make a sincere apology to one another.

intersting comment - damned if I do - damned if I don't

so You might as well carry on slamming me....

merry fucking xmas trolls.

go to fucking hell

Choker was banned, that's not getting away with it.

true, but like everyone else you're taking that statement out of context again

I haven't read the whole thing, but clearly several mistakes were made of varying degrees, even by myself for not knowing all the facts.

But I think it's safe to say that nobody has anything else new to add to this drama, so I think this thread and issue will die sometime today.

Idiot

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So be fair and ban Sleazydream and give him a rest from posting.

Couldn't agree more. That would prolly end the threads. Give Sleazy the same chance to cool down.

Sleazy, Choker..just DROP the issue now!

You've both had more than your fair chance of saying what you believe about this whole thing. There really isn't anything new to say about it. Ignore any other comments from the rest of the group and get on with your biz!

Responding to everyone just continues to pour fuel on the fire.

Merry Fucking Christmas and try to remember what is real (TODAY..a "Happy Holiday") and what is just a message board that allows people to a great degree say things that are not politically correct.

I agree. He needs a "cool off" period as well.

Sleazy Dream, This past year I was most all the shows, was just in Santa Monica, and will be in Las Vegas coming up. Also I am not siding with any "faceless trolls" never do never will. I make my own opinions and I always stand behind them, ask anyone that knows me, I am for sure prepared to stand behind them always.

No I would never ever post pictures or images of my children on an adult board such as this one. I can really tell or determine what was on his mind for doing so, maybe he felt comfortable or did not think he would be attacked, I don?t know. But I don?t think I would have taken a shot at anyone?s kids, even if someone were do post showing bad judgment, its really up to us as professionals to show each other respect on some kind of level, even though things get down and dirty here on GFY, its still in good fun, but when it comes to real kids, then that does cross the line, I don?t agree with what you are Choker did here, you guys were both wrong...

See you in Vegas and we can smoke a cigar........!

I just can't believe you are as shallow as you appear

I don't want to believe it

because I've seen you post some seriously insightful things in the past.. could it be true that you really don't see this as it really is?

So basicly you feel you have found a wonderfull place to just hate ! The boards name is your excuse ?